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Thread: Master Brawler = Waste

Nagorak
Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:43 am
#27

Ok, nm I'm an idiot.
KrelianTiberius
Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:29 pm
#28

Ok. I am getting very agitated here. LokSG makes the best skills template i've seen ontheBrawler, and now there is a possibility that brawler will be defense capped???? What the heckis the deal? Why are they making it so flamin hard to be a brawler!??! Now look, I like a challenge as much as the next guy, but this is downright ridiculous! How can I enjoy the game when my favorite profession is being made into an absolute.......wimp?!?!


Anyone can use a gun, or grenade, or bazooka, but it takes a rare breed to stand toe-to-toe with a Rancor, and live to talk about it, and that's what I like about brawler, it's a much more personal combat style, I meanI have to look you in your eyes when i death blow you, not shoot you from 300yrds away. These constant kills to the brawler statsare taking away the attitude of being that rare breed, and quite frankly i'm nearing my limit. If the brawler fades into the dark my account will as well, because i have no interest in just running around shooting things, i can do that on XBOX.


The Brawler has it hard enough without having all of their stats nerfed. It just makes us cannon fodder, and what is a soldier who has lost his gun, ABrawler, and they way these downgrades are going, a dead one.




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Makarish
Sun Aug 03, 2003 5:02 pm
#29

well after haveing master brawler for a couple of days i would definetly not say its a waste but i dont think is something thats needed in the end game template of your character. as odd as itseem the more i use intimidate2 and warcry2 the less i seem to miss with them and they are very valuable skills. all in all they make it worth haveing, at least untill i need the skill points for doctor.




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muldon
Sun Aug 03, 2003 5:34 pm
#30

LokSG,



I started my character exactly one week ago, and am a Master Brawler now, as well as Teras Kasi Novice and Novice Swordsman.

I plan on a similar build however, with the addition of ranged support.

Also, I'm a trandoshan, with the +10 Melee Defense bonus.



My only question.. are those truely percents? Then I could easily get over +100 Melee Defense.

Here's my template that I'm creating:


HOWEVER, I am undecided on if I want to continue with Teras Kasi to Master or go with Swordsmanship.. I'm considering Master Swordsman.



But, the one I'm using currently is thus:

Teras Kasi Master


Master Brawler


Master Fencing Stances


Master Sword Defense


Master Polearm Defence


Skill Bonuses:


Unarmed Accuracy +160


Unarmed Damage: +98


Unarmed Speed: +120


Unarmed Toughness: +62


Taunt +40


Melee Defense +86


Ranged Defense +74


Warcry +20


Intimidation +20


Berserk +20


Dodge +5


Counterattack +15


BlocK +10


Defense vs Knockdown +55


Defense vs Posture Change (Down) +60


Defense vs Dizzy +25


Defense vs Stun +35


Defense vs Blind +30


Combat Equilibrium +55


Meditate +100



Also, adding in Master Rifle Special Abilities (leaving like, 1/250 points left to spend, heh)


Melee Defense +20


Ranged Defense +2



OR going for the line with Cover bonuses in it (I forget which), gives +2 Ranged per level, plus the +2 ranged from basic marksmanship



-Greven

muldon
Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:54 pm
#31

Got to thinking about another variation, and here's what I came up with... be prepared :

Professions:
-Master Brawler
-Master Fencer
-Master Swordsman

Other skills from other professions:
-Master Polearm Defense
-Master Precision Striking (Unarmed)
-Expert Balance Conditioning (Unarmed)

Defense bonuses:
-Melee Defense +96
-Ranged Defense +79
-Dodge +25
-Counterattack +25
-Block +10
-Combat Equilibrium +70
-Def. vs Knockdown +105
-Def. vs Posture Change (Down) +100
-Def. vs Dizzy +65
-Def. vs Stun +85
-Def. vs Blind +20

Total cost in points: 250/250.

Insane, isn't it?

-Greven

PS: Lok, don't I know you from somewhere? Like DAoCIGN Vault Dev board, perhaps? Evil_Greven was my name there.
muldon
Sun Aug 03, 2003 9:44 pm
#32

Oops, made an error in my jotting down there.. switched two numbers.



Defense vs Stun should be +65 and Defense vs Blind should be +60.



-Greven

Grimror
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:21 am
#33

Muldon, for my clarification, those numbers include your racial bonuses as well correct?
Grimror
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:24 am
#34

Also, that second template you listed is 4 points over the cap.
muldon
Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:39 am
#35

No, not including racial bonuses. An additional +10 melee defense and other stuff.



Also, it comes out to exactly 250, check your math.



-Greven

Grimror
Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:44 am
#36

I checked a character builder, so you might wanna do the same...


http://swg.allakhazam.com/db/charbuild.html

Grimror
Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:51 am
#37

fyi,


32 skill pointsfor Expert Balance and Master Precision


20 skill points for master polearm defense


63 for master fencer


63 for master swordsman


and 77 for master brawler



255 total.



muldon
Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:11 pm
#38

Oops.

My bad.



For some reason I was thinking Master Brawler cost 1 pt instead of 6. Bah.


-Greven

Delnok
Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:58 am
#39

For those basing their character on getting huge melee/range defense, I have a word of caution. There is an old thread in the Fencer forum indicating that melee defense has a soft cap of 50. Anyways, melee defense seems almost broken anyways, since you will almost never be missed by mobs.


Just a perspective from one person who had thought the same thing when the game started....




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