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Thread: Vibro Knucklers

schally
Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:23 am
#14

The only reason for a pre-novice to use vibroknucklers is speed. So if you use berserk with sliced vibroknucklers that have around 1.5 speed then you're hitting four times as often. So by your numbers that's 50 x 4 = 200, slightly more damage than 175.


I've got a question of my own.It may be silly, but I was wondering--can you equip more than one vibroknuckler? Like one for each hand?

Happymob
Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:29 am
#15




I've been watching several people working on unarmed hit with and without VKs. Without they have been hitting for around 175 with they have been hitting for under 50. Why the rumor persists that using VKs uncerted is a good Idea but I'd watch really carefully if you wanted to try it because in 100% of the cases I've watched it hasn't worked.




First (and the major issue) is speed. Unarmed is about a 4 second delay (base). A 1.7 speed sliced vibroknucklers will give you more than 2 times the number of swings in combat. Look at dps, not the damage from a single hit.


Second, the 175 hits (pre-TKN) from unarmed is coming from the use of specials. Now, withVKs and berserk, you get around 175 with the base attack. So you use a single special (berserk) and do special like damage with subsequent regular attacks. That is significantly more HAM efficient than spamming specials like unarmed hit 1. Sure, you could do the same without the VKs, but then you have the speed issue again.


One added bonus of the VK method is armor piercing if you happen to be fighting light armored opponents.


My experience was that I could do significantly more damage with VKs than without due to the speed difference alone.




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zalabar
Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:30 pm
#16

hey wise teras kasi masters /bow . i just started brawler on my way to teras kasi. i am trying to find a good set of vibro knucklers with nice speed. the best i can seem to find is 2.3ish speed with 35ish min to 17ish max.unsliced of course. So my question arose. What are the stats on your vibro (if you have one) and how much did you pay for such a thing?if you guys can shed any light on the situation it will be greatly appreciated.

Bruty
Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:05 am
#17

I have some 1.6 speed sliced knucles made by stry'ker... They'renice enough, but you should find/kill/loot some nyms ( I think) andget some kind of motor out of them and make your favorite Weapon smith craft an überVK...



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Mup-
Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:47 am
#18

my best 1 that i have is a 224max 2.2spd, i forget the min on it tho as im not a tkam anymore. btw it was a 166max base vk with a 35% dmg slice. i do know the best base vk ive seen on lowca tho was at 174 ish dmg before slice so it is possible to go a little higher then my 224



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Bulbnoz
Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:50 am
#19

Mine were 2.2 speed max dmg 142, speed sliced down to 1.4, and another set dmg sliced to 187(dmg numbers may be wrong, can't remember atm, but those are very close). Paid 5k for the VK's base and just had a master smuggler friend of mine slice them for me.
Sid421
Tue Dec 09, 2003 6:36 am
#20

To work the unarmed tree up to novvice TKA I suggest you get a 1.5 speed or near that VK. It wil not make you hit much harder but you will hit way much faster ! Thus making the road to novice much much enjoyable.




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Hazen
Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:27 pm
#21

I heard that rancor teeth can be used in VK, but i dont think i have seen them before. I was just wondering what the best VK anyone has created are.



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Iur
Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:28 am
#22

good question, I am interested in this matter also.


I looted rancor teeth today actually and after killing rancors serially for some 4 days now I finally looted teeth, pretty rare, i was surprised.


Also, doesanyone know ifthe stats on rancor teeth changeaccording to loots? (loots from different animals having different stats)


Ty, iur

Iur
Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:31 am
#23

ok, I found some serious info regarding the teeth:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=28777
Platon2x
Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:19 pm
#24

It dosnt work on Knucklers, it will only fit where a sword core or adv sword core should been


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Trizax
Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:08 pm
#25

I was wondering 2 things



1. Can we get a vibro knuckler in each hand.


if we can get 1 in each hand just for looks then maybe


2. We could choose what hand we want the vk's other weapons in (swords, pistols,rifles, etc.)




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FelixDarque1
Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:05 pm
#26

You can only have one, and I think it goes on the right hand. Don't know if there is a preset for one's character's 'handedness'.


I have stopped using VK...I know...the best ones I could get do about 25% more damage than I do without them...but they use 300% more mind!!!


Since I have stopped using them, I don't have Mind problems. I have broke the muon addiction and now only use it as a 'safety net' to pop me up if something knocks me down rapidly.


Anyone else notice this?

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