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Thread: RECURSIVE MACRO NERF! THIS HITS US HARD!!!
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nvoigt
Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:50 pm
#14
I am an entertainer. I ought to benefit from this change the most. Let me say that my entire gameplay is centered around repeating macros even though I'm a live entertainer. You know, dancing doesn't involve much "skill" in terms of killing stuff, but if you ever did dancer without a macro, you have to press a hotkey every 10 seconds, or else there is no xp. Not less xp, NO xp. So removing repeating macros hurts even the live entertainers.
So why are we cheering so loudly over at the entertainer boards ? Because even what seems to be a huge gamebreaking nerf to you and which has the same effects on us is still better than what we had before. You feel nerfed, we feel freed. Thats not because it effects us differently, all my happy macroes will be gone, too. It's because we have a different frame of reference. Your profession is working fine right now. Ours is so broken that only bots play it and all the real entertainers are so bored that they don't even log in anymore.
The proper solution would be to /dump any macro as soon as AFK is detected. Obviously AFK detection isn't working properly at the moment and would have to be changed, too.
However, as this isn't going to come in the near future, entertainers cheer for the changes to come. Just think about it. We have the same problems, our XP depends on it. No loops means pushing a button every 10 seconds. And we still cheer at the thought. Thats because it has been so bad before that we will take anything to get rid of what is destroying our three professions: unattended gameplay officially allowed and supported.
( I also play a CM and Novice BH, but no brawler. Maybe you can explain what this CoB macro does and why it has to loop ? )
JohnMarble
Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:53 am
#15
Kyodor wrote:
Actually merchant is insanely hard to level effectively with a macro. Tell me how you can macro people tocome into your store and pay your fine. You can't? Exactly.
Actually, there is arecursive macro for this. Guys will park in front of abunch of vendors, and the macro targets each vendor turn, refreshing them, /wave, then start the process again.People leave themselves 23 hours a day to give theowner cheap merchant experience.
That sort of behavior is exploitive, plain and simple. With thehologrinding going away, there is no reason to get professions as fast as possible. SWG doesn't have an endless treadmill, and compared to othermmorpgs, the path to the endgame is relatively short.
Removing recursive macros will stop all the afk behavior which cheapens the entire game.Innocent partieswill be affected,like brawlers with CoB. But you can write a long CoB macro that will last ten minutes, and at the end have the macro send you a /tellor /alarmaddin 0 0 macro ends. So you suffer, and have to tap a key every ten minutes. Thunderheart suggested issues will be looked at. Perhaps CoB should be a constant-on effect, unless broken? It obviously was never meant to be on all the time, but it is now, maybe it needs changed.
fr00g
Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:20 am
#16
You posted this in what, every single proffesion forum? Sounds like you're just another AFK Dancer who can't handle actually putting in effort.
Chibi-Tux
Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:48 pm
#17
Okay. I must say, that you are VERY shortsighted if you cannot figure out ways to get around recursive macros. You are allowed to make macros longer than:
/dowhatever
/pause #
/macro myMacro
You are allowed hundreds of lines to write a macro. Doing this, even if you havea pause of only five seconds, you can write a macro that can go for over 10 minutes. Now, lets say you are forgetful, and you won't remember to do the macro again exactly 10 minutes later. You can fix that too! Try this at the end of the macro:
/tell <yourNameHere> <nameOfMacro> is done! Press <corresponding F# key> to start it again!;
Wow! That little line even tells you what to press to get the macro going again! Its the solving of all your forgetfulness problems! Oh wait! You've just realized something else that can go wrong! You don't want to type 100+ lines of code that is all the same. That would get boring, and we would never want that! Well this is your lucky day, I know how to fix that too. Why don't you try this:
Go to your options menu (CTRL + O).
Go to the Controls options (press the Controls button on the left).
Go to your keymap settings (press the Keymap button on the bottom).
Go to your chat keymap settings (press the Chat tab at the top of your keymap window).
Now, scroll down and look at Chat Copy and Chat Paste.
Reset both of these to something, if you can't think of anything then do what I did.
I set Copy to CTRL + {
I set Paste to CTRL + }
Now that you've set all that up, highlight the lines of macro code you want to copy, press your Chat Copy button, then past away with your Chat Paste button.
Congratulations, you now have an insanely long macro to take the place ofyour out-dated, out-of-style, losers-ville recursive macro!
That was pretty complicated, but now you have a long macro to help you out. With these simple steps, you should overcome this problem, and be able to not complain and yell and rant about the "bad" removal of recursive macros. I hope that those of you will actually read through this will decide that even though there are problems to overcome, with a little work and a little thought, you can get out. Thank you for reading, and I hope you will follow my suggestions.
~ Nokhoi
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