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Thread: Nerfing only warcry? or panic shot also?

Droidmaker6
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:44 am
#1

If warcry is getting nerfed to some useless special then I hope panic shot gets the same treatment.
NatakuValentine
Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:55 am
#2

..Warcry's getting nerfed BECAUSE of Panic Shot. They both do the same thing right now, so again, the ranged classes get the long end of the stick, and we get the shaft.



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Cakins7005
Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:00 am
#3

Panic shot is the only thing that makes pistoleers with smuggler any good. Then again.....warcry 2 is the only thing that made brawlers tanks.



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belegaraid
Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:13 pm
#4

20 bucks that panic shot stays the same except they take the timer off so it can be applied endlessly
erosomniac
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:17 pm
#5


Would you like some cheese with that WINE???




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IVIafioso
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:41 pm
#6






humberton wrote:


Would you like some cheese with that WINE???








shut up


warcry2 was pretty much the only thing besides lunge2 that people got master brawler for


if they nerf it then that is pretty much half the profession


how would you like it if they nerfed half of the skills in one of your professions?


thats what i thought


so shut up




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Shazeen
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:48 pm
#7






IVIafioso wrote:





humberton wrote:


Would you like some cheese with that WINE???








shut up


warcry2 was pretty much the only thing besides lunge2 that people got master brawler for


if they nerf it then that is pretty much half the profession


how would you like it if they nerfed half of the skills in one of your professions?


thats what i thought


so shut up







Actually, that is exactly what this thread is proposing. If panic shot is nerfed as well, then half of the Smuggler specials would be unusable and the others would only have marginal uses. Fun stuff.


As a brawler, I think it sucks that warcry is getting nerfed, but to call for a Smuggler nerf "just because" is equally ignorant an absolutely unnecessary. The fight right now should be to save warcry, not to nerf an already broken profession just so you dont feel so bad about being nerfed yourself.


Just my two cents.




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FoUCypher
Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:50 am
#8

Ive been all melee and all ranged.. now im a mix of both...



THe developers need to leave panic shot alone, warcry should be left alone as well, both are valuable skills to have. if warcry1 is nerfed then warcry2 should stay the same giving brawlers a reason to go for master.
JediKozel
Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:00 am
#9






IVIafioso wrote:

how would you like it if they nerfed half of the skills in one of your professions?

thats what i thought


so shut up






Hello! You are talking about Smugglers! Half of our skills are useless! Dirty Fighting isone of the twotrees in smuggler that makes sense. And even as Master Smuggler we still need Pistoleer skills to be able to use the DF line effeciently.So please, don't talk about how we would feel about useless skills. Most of our skill boxes alreadyare. Matter of fact - they were since the game went life.





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Shidevie
Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:40 am
#10






Shazeen wrote:





IVIafioso wrote:





humberton wrote:


Would you like some cheese with that WINE???








shut up


warcry2 was pretty much the only thing besides lunge2 that people got master brawler for


if they nerf it then that is pretty much half the profession


how would you like it if they nerfed half of the skills in one of your professions?


thats what i thought


so shut up







Actually, that is exactly what this thread is proposing. If panic shot is nerfed as well, then half of the Smuggler specials would be unusable and the others would only have marginal uses. Fun stuff.


As a brawler, I think it sucks that warcry is getting nerfed, but to call for a Smuggler nerf "just because" is equally ignorant an absolutely unnecessary. The fight right now should be to save warcry, not to nerf an already broken profession just so you dont feel so bad about being nerfed yourself.


Just my two cents.






If Warcry get's nerfed and Panic Shot doesn't there is going to be a pretty major outcry. When a change to a status delay is made in one profession (the mainstay of the brawler tree) that change needs to be made to all status delay's that do the exact same thing such as Panic Shot. I'm not saying it's getting nerfed, but if Warcry get's hit and Panic Shot doesn't alot of people are going to start calling for the nerf to include Panic Shot. Regardless, there is no reason to nerf Warcry and we have yet to see the reason why the Dev's decided to pick this one all of the sudden.



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Xeranx
Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:16 am
#11









Shidevie wrote:


If Warcry get's nerfed and Panic Shot doesn't there is going to be a pretty major outcry. When a change to a status delay is made in one profession (the mainstay of the brawler tree) that change needs to be made to all status delay's that do the exact same thing such as Panic Shot. I'm not saying it's getting nerfed, but if Warcry get's hit and Panic Shot doesn't alot of people are going to start calling for the nerf to include Panic Shot. Regardless, there is no reason to nerf Warcry and we have yet to see the reason why the Dev's decided to pick this one all of the sudden.






I'm sorry but I find it really incredible that people can't see the difference between a long ranged and a close ranged attack. Panic shot can be effective from 64m and can only be used with a pistol and some of you have the nerve to try and call out a special from a profession that gets no defense bonusesby itself other than what is earned after getting unarmed 4 and pistol 4. Also note that we can't use the minimal COB that we get as a novice brawler with a pistol equiped. We don't get anything but what is in our dirty fighting line.


Edited for spelling errors and grammatical mistakes.

Message Edited by Xeranx on 02-26-2004 08:37 AM





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Shidevie
Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:31 am
#12

Also the reason why the change is happening is due to the high end content getting locked down, this is the dev's answer to fixing that problem. When they see Smugglers status delaying high end content this change will trickle through to you also. Also I'm not disagreeing with you Xeranx, the change was poorly thought out and is being done in typical sony style where they choose the short cut to fix the bigger problem. Yes, they chose to nerf Warcry rather then go in and give the high end stuff innate resists to warcry. In EQ there are NPC's that are unslowable, this is innate to them. What sony should have done was gone through and added resists to NPC's for warcry. Hell I know they did it with the enhanced things in the Geo lab, I coulnd't land a blind/dizzy on any of the enhanced things last night.



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Aunna
Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:25 am
#13

OMG....too much crying


we arent loosing warcry2...its effect is changing, it lets us tank 1 mob at a time without getting hit by the other mobs...


i dont think the devs originaly though that someone would go out and solol a kyrat ect ect with this move, this nerf is making us group friedly without being overpowered...in pvp we wont get group teffed by like 10 peopel, use Warcry2 and u "mezz" 9 of em and u can kill the 10th one without disturbence...stop crying jees


and in pve. go to the genosian caves....its hard to solo that place, but with the nwe warcry2 we can "mezz" all the adds and take out each mob 1 by 1


sure im a little disapointed that we are loosing warcry2it but it made us to powerful...this change will make the game more fun because we are going to hafta group with others to take down those big hard Mobs


THIS IS A MULTIPLAYER GAME REMEMBER??!?!






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