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Thread: Swordsman or Commando???

NewName009
Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:43 pm
#1

I hear all sorts of stories, but what is the best against PVE???
JLG88
Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:19 pm
#2

swordsman



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JEAUX_ZUF
Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:33 pm
#3






JLG88 wrote:
swordsman






what he said



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ThorBattlehammer
Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:54 pm
#4






JEAUX_ZUF wrote:





JLG88 wrote:
swordsman






what he said





what he said about what he said.



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NJ62
Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:48 pm
#5

I just swapped from pistols to sword and oh.. me like! Lots of slicing and cool lookin specials. I can't speak for the higher levels, but I'm soloing stuff right now at sword 3 that I should not reasonably be able to kill, according to the missions I'm getting. And less of a skill point suck.


(Wants TC to come back online to bash stuff with sword, rawr)





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Soulburner69
Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:56 pm
#6

from experience, i would have to say swordsman . maybe if you have the skill points to throw in you could master brawler, as intimidate 2 and lunge 2 are really valuable skills, because of the lunge knockdown, and the intimidate is another skill that is invaluable in combat.



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Silverjohn
Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:18 pm
#7

If you don't mind my jumping onto this thread I was wanting to ask about the HAM costs of swordsman versus fencer. People speak well of Swordsman against creatures but most of their advise seems to start with "Get yourself buffed..." and I was curious about how well an unbuffed Swordsman would do hunting creatures?


Just a role playing thing but I play a Scout/Creature Handler and like to be away from cvilization for a long time. Heck, if fishing would relieve Battle Fatigue you might never see me in town except to put my hides on the Bazaar . So aside from belly buffing with home cooked Bofa Treats and Blob Candy I'm never going to see any buff love.


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Hitokiri_Manji
Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:13 am
#8

I was curious about how well an unbuffed Swordsman would do hunting creatures?



The health cost on a power hammer is a little over 100, so you'll lose health fast if you try to do moves without some kind of buff.



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comandobob
Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:33 am
#9

OK IM master swordman and soon master fencer , swordman is the best profession for PVE by far and it not two bad in pvp you just need to know ur moves and ,


fencer ham cosrt for moves is higher then swordman as i can incape my self with a stun bation were as sword isnt to bad most of the time im buffed so it easy , but ive soloed a narf lair with swordman no problem


And also some jungle volitors as well


so sword is a difineta over commando as i ve being commando to and it is very broken at the moment






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MasterOfCombat
Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:28 am
#10






Silverjohn wrote:

If you don't mind my jumping onto this thread I was wanting to ask about the HAM costs of swordsman versus fencer. People speak well of Swordsman against creatures but most of their advise seems to start with "Get yourself buffed..." and I was curious about how well an unbuffed Swordsman would do hunting creatures?


Just a role playing thing but I play a Scout/Creature Handler and like to be away from cvilization for a long time. Heck, if fishing would relieve Battle Fatigue you might never see me in town except to put my hides on the Bazaar . So aside from belly buffing with home cooked Bofa Treats and Blob Candy I'm never going to see any buff love.






Well part of it depends on which swordsman/fencer weapon you use. Using specials, most Power Hammers have a health cost of around 112, so you'll see your health pool deplete pretty quickly. The 2h Curved sword has a 47 or so action cost, with a 25 health/mind cost, so it's more managable, but does less damage. No AP and low damage make fencer a pretty poor choice for PvE (Unless you're only hunting Fatctional NPCs which never seem to have armor). Most people would be surprised how effective the auto-attack for Swordsman/Pikeman is. As I leveled up in them I hardly ever used a special becuase they'd miss too often, and use up too much HAM. The AP and damage of the LVA and Powerhammer make them devistating even without using specials.



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Gyopi
Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:01 am
#11

I'm not sure but I started a novice swordsman over the weekend and it works great! In fact, my tailor character Momoko had novice pistoleer so I can protect myself when I go to my harvesters (the maulers hate me. ). I discovered that a novice brawler with a single box in 2 handed swords is more effective than a novice pistoleer with a really good gun. Needless to say, I just dropped all my pistoleer and marksman.







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Silverjohn
Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:37 am
#12

Thank you for the information about the HAM costs. I made Master Brawler the other day but I had to give up too much else to get the skill points for it (already a Master Scout / Master Handler) and have to decide which weapon to focus on .


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Soulburner69
Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:23 am
#13

with my swordsman (being a trandoshan) i have my ham set up at 1000 health, 800 focus/willpower, 800 action, 400 quickness/stamina and 750 mind with 300 focus/willpower. and i can swing a powerhammer pretty much all day without really having to worry about the heavy health costs on them. but i can usually go hunting alone without buffs, i've taken out the rancor cave (pre warcry change) solo, without buffs, food, spice, and i have never worn armor of any sort. but i usually run arround with some food that enhances my health/focus/willpower, a few tatooine sunburn, and some vasarian brandy. i havent seen any new curved swords as i dont use them, but the last one i saw it had over 50 action cost with 30 or so health, and 25 mind. the cleaveris probabally arround 40/45/25 or something like that. and the two handed axe is arround 55/25/12 or so. powerhamers usually run arround 115/30/20 give or take. not sure about the scythe but i know it's insanely high.



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