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Ok Bezerk was the only thing Melees had going for them.

Gun users can run at top speed and shoot behind them without slowing down.. They nerfed our lunge so it only drops people for a millisecond and does no damage.. All other styles are action hogs and miss fairly often enough you'll never want to use them.. Bezerk, while also an action hog, at least gave some benefit.

So now melees are one click fighters. Click attack and see what happens. Cause I'm sure as hell not going to use some style (Uarmed Hit1 or 2 or stun) that uses 90 action points to create 90 points of damage.. I mean how freaking stupid is that?

That being the case who's going to play melee? We have all the disadvantages.. We have to close the gap between us and the gun user.. We can be kited and since our lunge is worthless now we can't use that to stop them... But to top it off once we do catch someone we can't even bezerk on them anymore!

In all honestly we can't bezerk? Why not you ask? Well how many times have you failed a bezerk that cost you 120 points of damage? I know it sometimes happens 3 times in a fight for me.

Now tack onto that my testing.. You do 150 damage now with bezerk when I used to do about 250. I used to take about 112 damage hits while bezerking and I still do.

So are you going to risk failing your bezerk for that measley damage increase? I think not.

So what amazes me is there's a HUGE bug with bezerking.. Whenever you press it you stop fighting... You actually either start fighting again when your character gets hit from the mob and you defend yourself OR you have to press the attack button again.. They didn't fix that.. No.. They instead nerfed us.

On the bright side the developers don't have to fix that bug anymore cause no one will bezerk to see it.

On the flip side you have every pistol user doing the same base damage as us using the crappiest weapon in the game. Once nicer weapons come out you know they'll outdamage us by far.

So it's time we all join the lemmings and pick up a pistol or carbine. We can become just one of the crowd that carries a gun.. Nothing distinguishing.. Just yet another clone.

I remember thinking when this game came out how no two characters will be exactly alike because there's so many things you can be.. I realize now I was naive thinking that. Everyone is exactly alike. There's actually less difference between characters in this game than there is between characters in a game like DAOC or Everquest.

So when you see me next time I'll be carrying a gun like everyone else.... and dreams of what this game could have been if they actually cared about diversity.

Pardon my ignorance but are you complaining about unarmed combat or melee combat in general?

unarmed

try picking up a sword and training you might find it to your liking. unarmed brawler got gimped by todays nerf but the other trees are in no way gimped. was still killing blue in one hit and whites with two. Not to mention with one hand expert you get dizzy hit. it hits as hard as one hand hit causes them to be dizzy hit them with lunge then follow up withone hand hits or body hits both doing massive damage to target. I cant wait for our more advance weapons to stop rolling off the presses. If you dont want to be a clone of the pistol users then dont. It may be harder route to take but it will pay off.Also dont you think choosing unarmed makes you a clone of all the other choosing it. Think about if you truelly cared about being different wouldnt you be trying for polearm two hand sword or one hand sword. Does sound like you want to be unique if you did you would have looked for different profession than the popular tka.

Shade:

You make some good points.. I'll try the sword route.

You're right it does make me a clone of every unarmed person.. And if I went dancer I would be a clone of every dancer.

The thing here is Shade.. Right now the only thing that's worth playing is the Han Solo clone. So instead of having a handful of clones to pick from the entire game will just be 1 type of clone.

Imagine PVP 3 months from now. EVERY single person is going to have a gun of some type, healing and scout abilities. You will be fighting along side 100's of people just like you.. identical to you.. And you'll be fighting 100's of people identical to you. No chance of encountering anything different.. ANd if you do that different person is so darn gimped it's halarious.

Sony seems to be pushing the Han Solo Clone.. So I guess that's what we all should be playing.

So wait.. you're asking about PVP now?

I picked up a sword and I'm never going back. Right now lunge+dizzy absolutely rocks. Better than silly beserk, since you dont even get hit. The enemy just falls before you and you hack away.

Ummm your right they are pushing it a bit too much right now hopefully it will back off in the coming week. Try sword i know i love and sounds like flux does to. I love dizzy hit right now only problem is that i cant found a mob around coronet that surives the first three hits of my dizzy lunge hand hit combo. If you could call that a problem. also cant wait to get spin attacks wil make fighting these stupid thugs so much easier. If you want free training ummmm or any one else head over to coronet on corbantis and i will help. Just follow the local rumors of the fun cleaning up the streets by killing the thugs.

Yea, I really wanted to play unarmed, I am a teras kasi student now.. but seeing where this is going, I think I am gonna switch to polearms like I was gonna do at beginning... that is, unless the devs start addressing these issues to the boards and the people that are actively 'testing' and paying for the game right now

I do not want to use blasters at all... i just dont like them

Hehehe I'm a thug hunter too I find myself in a position where I'm the humanoid killing specialist. Any time there are things with two legs they send me in there and down everybody with dizzy before the armada arrives. Now the thugs hate me with their souls and I'm always hunted by meatlumps and rags. Anytime I get within sight of them they straight out chase me and I'm forced to putting them all to sleep. Dizzy is gooooooooooood

I can't wait for spin hit either. Also... when master weaponsmiths appear I'm gonna get myself a better sword.........

One thing. Our group traveled to Dantooine today. To our disappointment... the monster xp was horrible. However.. thugs showed up! I proceeded to kick the living **edit** out of them and got 400-500 xp each!! I'd visit again if I ever get enough funding for the trip (2600cr round trip) but definitely worthwhile for that kind of xp. One of them also dropped a sword which I am now using.......

Is this 1 hand or 2 hand sword use?

its one hand. i love my dizzy hit.

I concur! I do 157 damage MAX when I use Unarmed Expert (going on Master, this is HARD) and I am getting owned by Intermediate Pistol users. Not only do we take a constant beating, but we do far less damage.

Getting XP is just impossible if you want to solo, and grouped, well... you get none.

You are right about berserk not hitting as much but FYI they fixed the bug which stopped you from fighting after using berserk.

relax, after Power 4 berserk is almost useless anyway