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JuddaFett

Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:15 pm

#1

Master Bounty Hunter

Pistoleer 0443

Smuggler 4000

Medic 0020

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Abilities Available-

Center of Being (250 def bonus)

Concussion Shot (root and daze)

Improved Panic Shot (25 sec attack delay)

Intimidate Shot (attacker's dmg reduced)

Last Ditch

KD Shot, Improv. Stopping Shot (root), and Snare

With Crispic and Duer. Pyro Drink (roughly +250 total accuracy) and a health buff crystal, could the dmg output from Last Ditch top 5-6k ? If so using Conussion shot after Last Ditch to heal yourself may push this template to a new FOTM. I have 3 Bounty Hunter alts now and am actually building my third BH to this template. Anyone already have this and can comment on it effectiveness? Any pros or cons? I think it'd be fun, nonetheless

Mawi Vahewe
- Bounty Hunter -

ocili

Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:33 pm

#2

Well LD is really only effective if your low on health. PLUS, the chance to hit with it is very slim, making a template that is relying on LD quite worthless. Plus more then likely, you will incap yourself and not the Jedi, killing you.

bmill

Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:41 pm

#3

JuddaFett wrote:

Master Bounty Hunter

Pistoleer 0443

Smuggler 4000

Medic 0020

------------------

Abilities Available-

Center of Being (250 def bonus)

Concussion Shot (root and daze)

Improved Panic Shot (25 sec attack delay)

Intimidate Shot (attacker's dmg reduced)

Last Ditch

KD Shot, Improv. Stopping Shot (root), and Snare

With Crispic and Duer. Pyro Drink (roughly +250 total accuracy) and a health buff crystal, could the dmg output from Last Ditch top 5-6k ? If so using Conussion shot after Last Ditch to heal yourself may push this template to a new FOTM. I have 3 Bounty Hunter alts now and am actually building my third BH to this template. Anyone already have this and can comment on it effectiveness? Any pros or cons? I think it'd be fun, nonetheless

Why don't you try it out this weekend? If you have MBH, it shouldn't take more than a few hours to grind that out. I would agree with The Bothan Menace though.... LD isn't nearly as effective as it's description claims it is. The lack of any master but MBH, is going to hurt as far as speed/defenses, etc with your weapons, but it might be passable with NICE weapons, slicing, clothing etc.

COB is not effective with ranged fighting, it doens't last long, and you need to unequip your weapon to activate it, then re-equip your weapon again. In that precious 2-3 seconds while waiting for the warm up on COB you will lose whatever pistol defensive bonuses you had. When you re-equip they will come back, but you will be dealt massive damage if you get hit in those seconds.

Furthermore, you will not be able to wear recon armor, which has the highest energy resists. You can grab yourself some nice RIS, but with the already limited defenses, you might need all the armor you can get...

Just my $0.02, but try it, and let us know! I'll say that's it's certainly unique!

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BurningSpear

Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:50 pm

#4

you sir obviously know your stuff

/deepbow showing the highest respect possible..

What is your exact template sir?

Message Edited by BurningSpear on 10-14-2005 03:51 PM

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BurningSpear

Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:57 pm

#5

bmill whats your template sir?

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ocili

Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:07 pm

#6

bmills template

bmill

Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:11 pm

#7

Spear - I am a Master Bounty Hunter, Master Rifle, and CM4xxx, with the vehcile control line from the FS skills.

Works WONDERS for me in the game both PvE and PvP (Jedi and non) There again.... I know the professions inside and out. That goes a long way to making a player better. The FIRST thing I ask anyone about their template problems is how well they know it.... I don't mean knowing which specials do what, that's the easy part. I mean knowing which specials to use, and when, and how often, and having good action/mind management. Knowing your individual cooldown timers is key also. Knowing which attacks to sequence for the most effective use of speed, damage output, and action management.

If you're ham bar looks like this during a fight... you might not be using your specials as effectively as you could be:

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///// 1ST CORELLIAN DIVISION \\\\\

181ST IMPERIAL TIE SQUADRON

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bmill

Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:12 pm

#8

ocili wrote:
bmills template

/tiphat

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xakia

Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:34 pm

#9

With Improved COB and Duelist Stance on a macro it becomes quite easy to press that one key..

I was just testing this out. You don't take massive amounts of damage...especially if your rebuffing as COB is about to fade. You also get an armorbreak with any template that includes Improved COB.

Right now I'm trying a different approach to my template and dropped COB completely. While it ROCKED hardcore I just got sick of all the standing around I did. I'm more of a hit and move guy. 250 Ranged Def + 500CoB + 250 Duelist = 1k Defense.

Tested several times against a MRifles spamming sniper shot at me. 350 damage a pop is laughable. I was wearing fugly 5k resist battle armor at that time too.

(+) CS:SWG(+) Step into my awp
Bounty Hunting since July 2003
"Jedi, you've ruined your ...no no that can't be right. SOE you've ruined your own lands! You'll not ruin mine!"

mero909

Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:37 pm

#10

My BH is MBH/MDoctor, but that may change.


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JuddaFett

Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:42 pm

#11

bmill wrote:

JuddaFett wrote:

Master Bounty Hunter

Pistoleer 0443

Smuggler 4000

Medic 0020

------------------

Abilities Available-

Center of Being (250 def bonus)

Concussion Shot (root and daze)

Improved Panic Shot (25 sec attack delay)

Intimidate Shot (attacker's dmg reduced)

Last Ditch

KD Shot, Improv. Stopping Shot (root), and Snare

With Crispic and Duer. Pyro Drink (roughly +250 total accuracy) and a health buff crystal, could the dmg output from Last Ditch top 5-6k ? If so using Conussion shot after Last Ditch to heal yourself may push this template to a new FOTM. I have 3 Bounty Hunter alts now and am actually building my third BH to this template. Anyone already have this and can comment on it effectiveness? Any pros or cons? I think it'd be fun, nonetheless

Why don't you try it out this weekend? If you have MBH, it shouldn't take more than a few hours to grind that out. I would agree with The Bothan Menace though.... LD isn't nearly as effective as it's description claims it is. The lack of any master but MBH, is going to hurt as far as speed/defenses, etc with your weapons, but it might be passable with NICE weapons, slicing, clothing etc.

COB is not effective with ranged fighting, it doens't last long, and you need to unequip your weapon to activate it, then re-equip your weapon again. In that precious 2-3 seconds while waiting for the warm up on COB you will lose whatever pistol defensive bonuses you had. When you re-equip they will come back, but you will be dealt massive damage if you get hit in those seconds.

Furthermore, you will not be able to wear recon armor, which has the highest energy resists. You can grab yourself some nice RIS, but with the already limited defenses, you might need all the armor you can get...

Just my $0.02, but try it, and let us know! I'll say that's it's certainly unique!

pistoleer and smuggler are cert for recon....given the movement hinderance

Mawi Vahewe
- Bounty Hunter -

Mought1971

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:07 pm

#12

If you've got the smuggler line simply for the LD, that's points better spent elsewhere. It'd be a fun win, but there are so many chances forLD to fail that you'll find yourself never using it. In particular, the tendency of LD to incap the smuggler makes it not worth it.

1) LD misses (high probability). Either he hits you and you're incapped, or you incap yourself.

2) LD hits, target's armor/damage mitigation/avoid incap(?) helps him to avoid being incapped. If you're notincappedalready, in the time it takes you to fire off that conc and heal, target hits you and you're incapped. If you've picked up a DOT...well, what can I say.

3) LD hits, it incaps him AND you. Race to be the first to stand up.

The only way this will work is if it hits, doesn't incap you, and does enough damage to take your target down. Again, if you're DOTed, you'll probably go down immediately after too.

The conc/healis of limitedhelp. LD will take you down to nothing, and you'll most likely be hit before you can get the conc off, unless they have areal slow weapon or you have a real fast one.

As mentioned above, basing a template on LD alone is going to prove frustrating.

KammaRocca

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:22 pm

#13

Of the times I tried LD against a Jedi that I can remember, one incapped the Jedi but he wasn't down long enough for me to hit the DB, one missed completely, and one hit, but I forgot to take into account the automatic PVP damage penalty. You'll have a tough time pulling off the concussion shot since LD drains almost all your health, action, and mind.

Message Edited by KammaRocca on 10-14-2005 04:23 PM

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