Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: We're going to need to work together on this, men (and ladies)
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Rheso
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:13 am
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally enjoy hunting alone. That is why I take marks within a certain range. After all, I can only assume that this is why Jedi missions have different payouts, to begin with; If you're lacking experience with hunting jedi, you may just want to stay with marks that are worth under 100k. If you happen to get your hands on a really neato new weapon and want to try it out, or if you just get sick of grinding out your pay 90k at a time and want to go for a bigger chunk of change, you take some of the harder missions. Am I right?
I read Jedi complaining about bounty hunters ganging up to take out 65k marks, and honestly, that makes me kind of sad. Considering how difficult it is to get two or more guys in the same group to get the same mission, who would want to go through all that trouble to split 65k two or more ways? With that in mind, I have to question the validity of this accusation. Whatever the case, whether it's true or not, whether there is a valid reasoning behind doing it if it's being done, this is one of the reasons that publish 20 is coming.
I read Jedi complaining about bounty hunters taking the same marks over and over again, and while I can see reasons for some people wanting to do this, it does fall strictly into line with the EULA definition of "griefing" or "harrassment" and it's a shame that it happens. Whether hunters are doing it because they know that they can beat that jedi again, or because the hunter has a beef with a particularly arrogant jedi, or whatever the reason behind it, this is another reason that publish 20 is coming.
I know that for a lot of hunters like me, to whom a /target macro is a regular step in their hunting process, publish 20 is going to make things incredibly difficult. Regardless of how you hunt now, after publish 20, it's obvious that being a bounty hunter is not going to be the path to take if you're trying to amass credits. Perhaps the hardest thing to swallow, however, is going to be the idea that for every mission we take for a jedi that is out of our league, we're going to have but two choices: drop the mission and start anew, or take a deep breath, eat every type of food we have in our backpacks, double-check to make sure our weapons are powered up and take a chance and go for it, knowing that there's a very good possibility that in the end we'll only be serving to strengthen our mark by allowing him or her to collect on the FRS points awarded for killing us. (I know, I know, FRS is not operational now, but I can't help thinking that this is only the first step to bringing it back)
We have a third option, mates. We're going to have to develop a working network and work closely together on this. I'm not interested in working with anyone who wants to join forces to take down a padawan with a CDEF saber. But for those times when we find that our mark is one of the stronger and/or more-experienced Force-weilders, it would be great to be able to bring along some backup. Obviously, grouping up and scanning through a terminal (which can test even the most die-hard players' patience as it is) will no longer be an option. But, what if we were all already kind of in a group of sorts all the time, anyway? The way it would work is this: Say I get a mission and head out, looking for my mark. I find it's someone who I know I can't beat because I've tried to before and they've handed me my butt, maybe even a few times. My idea is that I would be able to let everyone else know and anyone else with the same mission can meet up with me. At that time, depending on who the mark is, we may opt to wait and see if someone else gets his mission too, or work out a plan to take down the mark together. Once we judge that we have sufficient firepower to at least hold our own against the target, we move in.
As the leader of BHA, which is, arguably the best-known and well-respected collection of jedi-hunters in the (Ahazi) Galaxy, I'm going to step up and offer everyone with the capability to hunt jedi to join BHA to facillitate this collaboration. As it stands now, BHA is about 50 members-strong, with approximately 25 (give or take) active hunters at any given time. Varried timezones among players make it difficult, at times, to get many of us on at one time, but if we were to increase our numbers, the chances of this sort of information networking and teamwork being effective increase, as well. Yes, I'm asking for help, but I'm guessing that many of you may need our help as well. How many of you hunters are currently in guilds that have 50 people in them, but only a handful of hunters? If we consolidate and concentrate all of the hunters in the galaxy into one huge bounty hunting guild, Publish 20 won't be as much of a problem at all 
I'm not offering free housing or vehicles or chunks of creds to get you going. We are not a "noob" guild. What I am offering is a huge base of knowledge and experience for you to learn from, an invitation to make some good friends and the opportunity to brace for Publish 20 in a way which will all but nullify the negative effects of the changes to come. What I ask of you is actually pretty simple:
First and foremost--conduct your business with dignity. No one likes a sore loser. People like sore winners even less. As I mentioned above, we have earned a fair measure of respect, and we've gotten that respect by giving it first. After all, to downplay your opponent is to dimminish the importance of your victory (if you're the winner) and ad significance to your loss (if you're the loser). BHA hunters never grief or send hate tells after a fight, win or lose. Most often a tip of the hat and a "good fight" after the battle is all that is needed. If your opponent attempts to suck you in to a yelling match, you're expected to "be the better man" and rise above it. If all else fails, simply ad them to your ingore list.
Secondly, we do not hunt within our factions. After publish 20, I have to say that I'm EXTREMELY glad to know that at least this will be much easier. Having to maintain a database of roughly 700 jedi and their faction allignments got to be problematical; Everytime I unhid my offline friends, it would take up to two minutes for the information to show on my screen, and that's on a good day! (On a bad day I'd just crash.) BHA is multifactional, meaning that we are made up of Imperial, Neutral and Rebel hunters. And believe me--enforcing this rule has been difficult, to say the least. After publish 20, we know that faction will be shown in lieu of the Jedi's names. So far I haven't read anything that says whether or not we'll be able to take marks with the same faction as ourselves. Honestly, I don't imagine that the choice will be taken away from us, as players. As a member of the Bounty Hunters Alliance, however, that choice is removed. NO SAME-FACTION HUNTING.
That's pretty much it. Since it seems as though only MBHs will be able to take Jedi missions, I assume that I will be able to remove the level restriction/requirement that we've had since most Master Bounty Hunters already know how to use an arakyd droid, and so-on. If you're a bounty hunter, plan to be one for a while, understand that we're not interested in members who wish to take more from the guild than they put in and can live up to the two simple guidelines outlined above and you're interested in the idea of increasing your odds of finding some help when you need it (when you find that you've drawn a guardian's name from the hat) then please contact either myself, Roly, Derrig or Icem in-game and we will get you set up. After a quick Q and A session in my office on Talus we'll get you set up and maybe you too can be a part of the Bounty Hunter Alliance. There's never been more of a need for it. The time has come.
Trebal
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:23 am
#2
I read that whole thing and im not even in your server..... and my dog just $hit on the floor..... good luck with all that. ugh
Le0r0n
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:25 am
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Trebal wrote:
I read that whole thing and im not even in your server..... and my dog just $hit on the floor..... good luck with all that. ugh
ROFLMFAO I didnt even read the first post but that was soo funny
Le0r0n
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:42 am
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anyone else think that what he said was funny? oh and BTW if you sum it all up ino a paragraph ill read it and tell ya what i think
Trebal
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:47 am
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haha i can do that for yah. Basically
He has created a guild on his server that starts with an "A" and has a "Z" in it somewhere, and with this guild he planns on recruiting most of the capable MBHs on his server into it. Then whenever someone has a mark thats too hard for them they post in guild chat and If anyone else happens to have the same mark. Once enough of his cronies join up they kill the jedi. Oh and it is a multi-faction guild but you must not hunt your faction. Oh and be respectful to your mark. I think that about covers it.
Le0r0n
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:49 am
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Trebal wrote:
haha i can do that for yah. Basically
He has created a guild on his server that starts with an "A" and has a "Z" in it somewhere, and with this guild he planns on recruiting most of the capable MBHs on his server into it. Then whenever someone has a mark thats too hard for them they post in guild chat and If anyone else happens to have the same mark. Once enough of his cronies join up they kill the jedi. Oh and it is a multi-faction guild but you must not hunt your faction. Oh and be respectful to your mark. I think that about covers it.
oh................that would never work you would all have people saying in guild chat i have this mission...well IU have this mission etc etc snd noone will pick up the other ms mission and pub 20 is gonna kill that so that even makes it more impossible
Rheso
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:50 am
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OK, for you Cliff's Notes fans:
I'm inviting any and all Master Bounty Hunters to join BHA so that we can all be together on this, come publish 20. That way, if you find out your mark is a guardian or some other level mark that you may not be able to take solo, you can ask in guildchat if anyone else has their mission and team up to bring him down. Ideally, if every MBH on the sever was in BHA, we'd really have no problems when we find out that our mark is a guardian, templar, consular, or whatever. BUT to join BHA, you need to agree to no in-faction hunting and no griefing or hate tells after the fight is over.
Le0r0n
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:52 am
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I actually didnt understand what he said I get it more with yours...good idea but I see a flaw...I doubt anyone will happen to have the mission at the same time as you because in order to find out who they are oyu have to be right near them in which you wouldnt need guild chat you would just /wave to them and invite hehe
Trebal
Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:56 am
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Ok, well i thought my "cliff notes" (lol) were pretty good. I love his idea and it makes me with i was in his server. It could work. Not easy, but I think it could
Rheso
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:06 am
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Your notes were fine, mate. I just was writing mine at the same time you were posting yours... turned out almost verbatim
Trebal wrote:
Ok, well i thought my "cliff notes" (lol) were pretty good. I love his idea and it makes me with i was in his server. It could work. Not easy, but I think it could
BHA has been around for a while and we've found out lots of ways around a lot of the different issues we've been presented with. They haven't been easy do deal with, either. And nothing works 100% all of the time, but for some problems even a little bit helps. The /logout bug is a good example: The droids may not have been working, but when you have 50-60 guys, all spread out all over the galaxy, and telling each other who they see and where, we were able to keep the Jedi on their toes pretty well. The same concept works for this problem. I'm just trying to get as many hunters in to BHA as possible right now so that my odds of finding someone else with the same mission as I have can increase. We'll still be doing this, even if no one else joins. It just will work better for everyone involved if we had even more people in the guild and on the same page.
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