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Thread: Pistoleers, I need some help.....

Versivix
Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:30 pm
#1

I know most of you say that you can take full temp jedi down but I just dont beleive it. I am a pistoleer and have very good equipment and I still have yet to get a win? I can heal very well, I use my specials...we are ALWAYS in range of saber throw, etc....I can usually last awhile against the jedi (longest being 35 minutes)....At least admit that you guys lose WAY more than you win?



VERSIVIX


Master Bounty Hunter


Master Pistoleer


Bria



Nathanielstarr
Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:44 pm
#2

Not most of us say it....some of us say it.


Get a SAC capped and damage capped featherweight FWG. Get it sliced for 10% critical. Use a pup that brings down your SAC even more (try for 45). Bring stims to heal as well as ruby. Use intimidate shot and disarming shot. Use quickdraw and cycle through adv crit, imp bodyshot and torso shot over and over. Use food that brings up your action.


To win as a pistoleer you have to be good because you have to go toe to toe with the jedi.



But above all sneak up on them. If you blow your cover....leave and try again later.


Zemon
Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:46 pm
#3

Asking others to admit they lose more? Why? Should you consider, maybe, your tactics could use improvement?


The Jedi is not overpowered and you are not underpowered. As a class the Jedi have great strength without the use of armor and SEA's. The Elite classes have the power of many SEA's, greatly crafted armor, and creativly designed weapons. For the Jedi, he spends all his time grinding Jedi to gain this. For the Elite, he spends all his time acquiring credits and loot to achive this.


Make an investment if you want to be more powrful. Spend it in loot and equipment, or spend it in FS grinding, but get better stuff........ And work on your PVP tactics.


This in no way is ment to be flame or insault. You just don't walk off the playground and play professtional ball, it takes an investment in time and training.








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NoStyleGuy
Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:48 pm
#4

I am a Pistoleer/BH and must admit i lose more than i win. (have 3 or 4 full templates to my name) But i have found a new Ally - bomb droids. Nothing says "Holy Sh!t dude!" like 1,000 dmg from a bomb droid. Especially the hate tells after.



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Versivix
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:08 pm
#5






Nathanielstarr wrote:

Not most of us say it....some of us say it.


Get a SAC capped and damage capped featherweight FWG. Get it sliced for 10% critical. Use a pup that brings down your SAC even more (try for 45). Bring stims to heal as well as ruby. Use intimidate shot and disarming shot. Use quickdraw and cycle through adv crit, imp bodyshot and torso shot over and over. Use food that brings up your action.


To win as a pistoleer you have to be good because you have to go toe to toe with the jedi.



But above all sneak up on them. If you blow your cover....leave and try again later.







I have a double capped featherwieight, with sac pups, with a critical slice...I do everything you have mentioned in your post....I still lose....



VERSIVIX


Master Bounty Hunter


Master Pistoleer


Bria



Versivix
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:10 pm
#6






NoStyleGuy wrote:
I am a Pistoleer/BH and must admit i lose more than i win. (have 3 or 4 full templates to my name) But i have found a new Ally - bomb droids. Nothing says "Holy Sh!t dude!" like 1,000 dmg from a bomb droid. Especially the hate tells after.




holy crap....where can i get one of those bad boys? whats the detonation on those?



VERSIVIX


Master Bounty Hunter


Master Pistoleer


Bria



StavosArmus
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:13 pm
#7

Any DE can make them. Quite easy to make too.


I prefer a good combat droid though. The 400 dmg or so every 4 seconds helps a lot.


Zemon
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:13 pm
#8

Get both ranged cybor-arms. This will add 15m to your range, giving you 50m with a pistol. Keep your mark out of melee range, keep him snared and KDed as much as possible. Watch his action and mind. If you can get a KD on when his aciton is low, he can not KD recover until it regenerates. Use line of site and distance for heals and your own regeneration.


Keep at it, duel your friends every chance you get, and get back in there.





ZEMON "The Zany Zabrak" KIMBALL
Elder Jedi * Leader of IMPS * Anyone seen a BH?
<-------------~~~~~ :IMPS: ~~~~~------------->
EAMON "Lone Wolf" KIMBALL
Elder Bounty Hunter * IMPS * /bountycheck; /accept;

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Versivix
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:17 pm
#9

i guess the arms are really the only other thing I could get....but who wants to walk around with cyborg arms? how would i pick up chicks? i would love to meet a pistoleer who wins more than he loses...



VERSIVIX


Master Bounty Hunter


Master Pistoleer


Bria



Zemon
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:18 pm
#10







Versivix wrote:
i guess the arms are really the only other thing I could get....but who wants to walk around with cyborg arms? how would i pick up chicks? i would love to meet a pistoleer who wins more than he loses...






All I can say is....... attachments.


So become one.

The secret to 'your' perfect template is in my sig.

Message Edited by Zemon on 09-01-2005 08:20 PM



ZEMON "The Zany Zabrak" KIMBALL
Elder Jedi * Leader of IMPS * Anyone seen a BH?
<-------------~~~~~ :IMPS: ~~~~~------------->
EAMON "Lone Wolf" KIMBALL
Elder Bounty Hunter * IMPS * /bountycheck; /accept;

Should you defeat me in battle, have the courtesy to /spit on my corpse. For I am Imperial and you are Rebel scum!

Zelerex Online - Massively Multiplayer Strategy Game - Employer ID: 68860
Versivix
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:23 pm
#11






Zemon wrote:







Versivix wrote:
i guess the arms are really the only other thing I could get....but who wants to walk around with cyborg arms? how would i pick up chicks? i would love to meet a pistoleer who wins more than he loses...






All I can say is....... attachments.


So become one.

The secret to 'your' perfect template is in my sig.


Message Edited by Zemon on 09-01-2005 08:20 PM




thanks for the motivational post! you must not be a pistoleer.



VERSIVIX


Master Bounty Hunter


Master Pistoleer


Bria



Zemon
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:41 pm
#12

Pre CU I was Master Pistoleer. Keep in mind, I was MBH/MP while the rest were BH/Melee.... it can be done.


Then I tried Mastrer Carbs, then Master Rifle, now I'm trying Master CM. Alas, I have not let go, I still hold Pistole 0004.





ZEMON "The Zany Zabrak" KIMBALL
Elder Jedi * Leader of IMPS * Anyone seen a BH?
<-------------~~~~~ :IMPS: ~~~~~------------->
EAMON "Lone Wolf" KIMBALL
Elder Bounty Hunter * IMPS * /bountycheck; /accept;

Should you defeat me in battle, have the courtesy to /spit on my corpse. For I am Imperial and you are Rebel scum!

Zelerex Online - Massively Multiplayer Strategy Game - Employer ID: 68860
TonieStark
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:47 pm
#13






Versivix wrote:

I know most of you say that you can take full temp jedi down but I just dont beleive it. I am a pistoleer and have very good equipment and I still have yet to get a win? I can heal very well, I use my specials...we are ALWAYS in range of saber throw, etc....I can usually last awhile against the jedi (longest being 35 minutes)....At least admit that you guys lose WAY more than you win?






Well first study the pcitures in my sig and believe it.... MY template is MBH MCM Pistols 1xx3



here are some tips :


I sometimes do not fight like I advise but that has come with getting more experience ( I can run up to a Jedi now and just shoot and hold my own just fine), what I recommend here is what you should do for the first 10 kills or so, then you can start to develop your own style and tactics....


1. only attack if you have achieved complete and utter surprise.(meaning you can frontload a alot of damage). This will guarantee the jedi to be in a defensive position after the the first strike. You have forced him to think of only two things at this point, running or healing first AND then coming after you.


2. Only engage if the Jedi, in addition to being completely surprised, is not buffed or his force is down, or he is engaed by MOBS or creatures. Even if you achieve utter surprise like #1 above but the jedi is not in a tough spot (in other words he is buffed and not distracted or engaged by other PvE activities) you can still lose dramatically even if you cause massive damage before reaction, so DON'T engage and follow this rule.


If you follow these two rules and drop the mission whenever you can not engage with these parameters, you will achieve success . There is nothing wrong in doing this. This is the BH way and Jedi's are 1.5 stronger for this reason.


3. Learn about foods and how they best compliment your personal template, seek out high energy resit armor, slice it for Armor break if possible. Find a good weapon with high damage that you can slice for speed. Add a power up to the weapon to let it produce even more damage (so cap damage with weaponsmith and Power up, slice speed).


4. Add a duelist macro this will help alot as well, here is one I found on this forum:

/duelists;
/pause 26;
/alarmaddin 0 0 STOP, DUELIST!!
/pause 1;
/macro Duelist


Be sure to use the following for deathblow so that the macro does not interfere:


/dump
/deathblow



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