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Thread: THE WORLD IS NOT ENDING FOR JEDI

TonieStark
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:25 pm
#1



I posted this in the Jedi fourms, it had 15 responses right away....there is no convincing Jedi that the world is not ending....before anyone says anything I am an MBH first and foremost but also have a Jedi:



"Some of you sound hysterical, you need to take a deep breath and read this. I beat down the first BH that came for me post pub 24....he was MBH MCM and experienced.



I used Aura, force speed,spiced tea, bofa treat, blob candy, ruby biel, ahirisa, crispic, pikatta pie.


I was paralyzedthen had electrolyte drain (during the entire encounter practically).


I used Force suppression, Saber sweep, to control distance. I would suppress then (in this order) Armor break, head hit, power attack, saber strike, when the root would break I would use saber swipe, then continue attacks. It took maybe 25 minutes but I got him.


I suggest everyone buckle down and try your hardest to win, it can be done. This was a good BH with a good record. i will start posting screenshots. The Hysteria of the nerf has to stop.


This is my template:


MDEF

LS x4x4

EN 4xxx

HE 4xxx

PWR x4xx


Good luck guys!"



Mawl: Wookie Rebel Jedi
Tonie Stark: Imperial Bounty Hunter
82 Jedi Killed
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Chilastra
crunchmalla
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:33 pm
#2

LOL Order 66 includes SL helping us!



I am the hunter.
You will not see me.
You will not hear me.
You will die to the shadows.

TonieStark
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:56 pm
#3






Xalya_Shadowalker wrote:






TonieStark wrote:



I posted this in the Jedi fourms, it had 15 responses right away....there is no convincing Jedi that the world is not ending....before anyone says anything I am an MBH first and foremost but also have a Jedi:



"Some of you sound hysterical, you need to take a deep breath and read this. I beat down the first BH that came for me post pub 24....he was MBH MCM and experienced.



I used Aura, force speed,spiced tea, bofa treat, blob candy, ruby biel, ahirisa, crispic, pikatta pie.


I was paralyzedthen had electrolyte drain (during the entire encounter practically).


I used Force suppression, Saber sweep, to control distance. I would suppress then (in this order) Armor break, head hit, power attack, saber strike, when the root would break I would use saber swipe, then continue attacks. It took maybe 25 minutes but I got him.


I suggest everyone buckle down and try your hardest to win, it can be done. This was a good BH with a good record. i will start posting screenshots. The Hysteria of the nerf has to stop.


This is my template:


MDEF

LS x4x4

EN 4xxx

HE 4xxx

PWR x4xx


Good luck guys!"






We aren't (well, im not) as concerned about the snares at the moment, because when we're getting 1-2 hit killed the snare doesn't matter much.





Hysteria, I have talked to 3 Jedi now (thta have actually tried post pub 24 combat) and confirmed whatI said in the first post. Go try it...you might be surprised .....there are very few BHs one shot or two shot killing....it's hysteria.



Mawl: Wookie Rebel Jedi
Tonie Stark: Imperial Bounty Hunter
82 Jedi Killed
Favorite Jedi Kill Pics 221K 225K 222K 223K 220K 221K 226K 172K 197K 132K 202K 221K 225K 225K 221K 221K 222K 226K 219K 220K 222K
Chilastra
JoBoFedderish
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:21 pm
#4

I hope jedi nerf themselves into nothingness, they deserve it!



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Epichistonian
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:24 pm
#5






JoBoFedderish wrote:
I hope jedi nerf themselves into nothingness, they deserve it!





Why?



Sarshalus Groundwalker
Give a man a match, he'll be warm for a minute
Light a man on fire, he'll be warm
the rest of his life
JoBoFedderish
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:25 pm
#6

human stupidity,




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Epichistonian
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:29 pm
#7






JoBoFedderish wrote:
human stupidity,





so... BH's aren't humans?



Sarshalus Groundwalker
Give a man a match, he'll be warm for a minute
Light a man on fire, he'll be warm
the rest of his life
MiniveNyla
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:30 pm
#8






JoBoFedderish wrote:
I hope jedi nerf themselves into nothingness, they deserve it!






Let go of your hate, it is after all just a game. We all play to have fun.
Parnakido
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:37 pm
#9

Iwish you could come to tempest and try to pull that on me. 5-10 mins later you'd be on your back out of mind and dead.

BH/CM >Jedi You just werent fighting a good bh with Uber Gear.

JoBoFedderish
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:37 pm
#10

Im having fun, but like 90% of the non-jedi population, IM SICK OF THEM! I enjoy all my game time, except the never ending leet minded fools that play jedi...



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MiniveNyla
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:44 pm
#11






JoBoFedderish wrote:
Im having fun, but like 90% of the non-jedi population, IM SICK OF THEM! I enjoy all my game time, except the never ending leet minded fools that play jedi...





I am not sure what you are saying here? It is not a problem that people are upset with the game?
JoBoFedderish
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:50 pm
#12

Jedi are always upset if they dont have their insta kill button. They are the original pre madonnas on the game world. Drama queens, brats, snot nosed kids that dont get love at home or get stuffed into lockers whatever the case may be. They are never happy and scream nerf at the rest of the game while demanding to be able to "own" 8-10 players at a time BUT want only 1 BH to come after them.


Im sick of the jedi in this game. It would be better if they just removed the prof or just made it a normal starting prof. There are far to many professions in the game that need fixed, game issues, bugs ect that could have dev time rather than tending to those pampered force freaks.





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Mindwerkz
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:10 am
#13

Im not sure what this thread is turning into but since it seems to be the same old issue of if jedi are or are not overpowered and I am fairly bored as I have a terrible ping at the moment I will try to throw my constructive two cents in the ring.


One thing that always baffles me is the simple idea that jedi should be more powerful because they have a long grind. Im not really sure I understand why that seems to make sense. The long grind is part of being a jedi, its not payment for super powers, simply the means to an end. Other classes do have less exp requirements true, however jedi are the "cool" thing to be, and thus anything cool is desirable, so there were safeguards put in place to attempt to ensure their rareness. These safe guards have failed miserably however but the point is they arnt a token to greatness. They simply are the required path for playing a cool character.


That being said however, jedi are amazingly weak given the fact that they are indeed jedi. Of course it would be far easier to give them "l33t pwerz" if they didnt say things like "l33t pwerz", ie if they as a community had a shread of jedi in them. As it is now, as a community, jedi are as a previous poster has said, spoiled brats that got picked last in kickball. Oh yes I know, I put out a label that may or may not apply to every single person that has ever once been/thought about/ mildly considered even being in the same room as someone who plays jedi. Yes yes I know, now that the uproar has died down lets accept the reality that it is an alpha class, by design even, and that has a strong pull to those who want to lord that power over others for what ever reason. It is because of this that there can be no alpha in an online role playing game, because it will inevitably be abused. Think if you will about the gank squads. Not very jedi behavior, yet rampant on nearly every server. As a rather high grossing movie once said, "with great power comes great responsibility". This game lacks such responsibility and theirfore, through their own actions, players of jedi have shown they cant be trusted with that power. Thus nerfs were instituted.


I would like to go on record as saying im anti all nerfs, nerfs are bad and are simply a stop gap fix to a larger issue of game imbalance. It has never been good practice to balance multiple areas by simply crippling one other area. But that is food for another time.


Now the new publish has caused its own stir and I would rather not get into that specificaly so lets speak generaly. As I see it, as someone who really wishes this game was an acctualy representation of the films it is supposedly based upon, jedi knights should be equal in power to a fully templated buffed up MBH. Where do I get this proposterous idea you ask? Well from the movies of course, episode 2, obi wan fights jengo fett and its a stalemate. Looks pretty clear to me that both are about equal to each other. Yes I have heard the complaints over this before, Jengo was the worlds best bounty hunter, well Obi wan was a named jedi character quite capible in his own right. Another popular complaint, boba was firing on him while they fought, true, however it was for a very short duration, and he was still a child, surely your not sudgesting that a mere child is a match for one of the greatest jedi? Nothing more than a mild inconvience at best for a short duration, much lets say, like a lvl 30 probot... Following with this a jedi master, while not an instant kill, should make short work of a bounty hunter, much as windu did. Yet again, Windu is reportedly the greatest jedi swordsman I know, but again we are talking about, at that time, the greatest bounty hunter.


So thats my thoughts for power levels which I belive very closely resembles the films and would be easy to do if master bounty hunters were given a jedi specific buff, exactly like the buff vs creatures given for rangers. Why do I sudgest this? because Jedi need to be made stronger, they are patheticaly weak at the moment and only look like jedi. So you make jedi stronger agenst everything, and you make bh stronger agenst jedi in a equal amount so that a full temp bh is about comparable to a knight. Bh can compete in pvp and not be a dual alpha class, and jedi still have something to fear from being hunted.


Being hunted, this leads me to my next and final ( for the night ) thought on questions that just dont make sense. In a stickied thread in the jedi forums is a post from there coro asking 5 questions, one of those questions is why cant jedi hunt bh. Really im just as confused as the idea that just because you had to kill alot more bols that you suddenly have no responsiblility for your behavior. First, jedi are criminals, as ordered by the empire, bh are not criminals. Jedi are hunted for the very fact of being jedi. Bh are in essence freelance police tracking down these criminals. There is no logical reason why a jedi would hunt down and do anything to a bh, it is not something that any self respecting non insane jedi would do. Really it sounds like you want revenge for being hunted, not as a character, because quite simply your character wouldnt do that, but that you, as a player are pissed and want to take it out on other players for simply playing their characters correctly. As for the sith, or more correctly dark jedi since its very clear there are only two sith at this time, I would imagine most would consider it below them but there is a possibility I suppose, honestly Im not that familiar with sith practices to answer that part. I do know however that no jedi would ever do this as they are about upholding the law, and they are indeed the criminals.


Ok well as promised that is the end of my thoughts for the night, im sure some will read it and decide I acctualy know who they are and this was directed expecialy at them and decide to rant about it. For the others, particularly bh and jedi alike that are able to put forth constructive thoughts on the subject I welcome your ideas. As it is the system is broken and really not fun for either party for the most part. How can we make jedi cool again while not giving them god status?






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