Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedi and Patch 19
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AndrewM
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:01 pm
#1
well the changes for BH seem great! and needed, but sadly the jedi prof. is taking it pretty hard...all i know is that i wouldnt get my hopes up for killing full temp knights. reason being..master defender is going to be the respec prof of all jedi.why not? well let me tell you, i as a master defender still dont heal that much when attacked my multiple BHers...yes i do use infusion and this will usually keep my health up....but as a bounty hunter as well i am worried that most will respec to master defender to combat the jedi reduction on heals and costs,and also to combat the upgrade on LLC's..just a few thoughts...let me know what you think
Caelrie
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:03 pm
#2
As a master defender, I agree. I've said before that I don't need to heal vs a BH. The heal nerf won't affect me. What WILL affect me is the loss of my ranged KD and the increased healing BHs will receive from their 4xxx.
I'm adaptable player and my template reflects that. If I find I can no longer outdamage a BH's healing, and they target me because of it, I will just cloak every time one comes for me.
AndrewM
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:05 pm
#3
/agree...heals dont seem to be that big of a deal w/master defender...but its nice to see that BHers are getting some love.
Onisamu
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:12 pm
#4
Man, I already hate fighting doc/bhs...now the battles will last twice as long as if half an hour wasnt enough hehe. But seriously, this will definetly spice things up a bit.
TheGreatFreyr
Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:14 pm
#5
AndrewM wrote:
/agree...heals dont seem to be that big of a deal w/master defender...but its nice to see that BHers are getting some love.
ya, i do like to see the bhers gettin love but it doesn't meanjedi need to get nerfed to help them..... it's like trippin a person in a race heh
triggerr
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:11 pm
#6
Seriously, they should be making BH stronger than the majority of the other professions, not make jedi weaker. A BH should stand up and overpower other professions. Remember the obiwan & jango fight... Was a pretty even match. Now the mace and jango match was different but heh, mace is at the top of the FRS which means special bonuses should be added for high ranked FRS members. anyway, I also agree. There will be way more MDefenders out there and for the ones that don't have MDefender, you can bet they will have cloak and use it every time a BH comes along.
pagoa
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:27 pm
#7
i thought i read somewhere that critical shot will do more damage in 19. anyone know? with regards to the changes to jedii can't comment, but i like the way it is now and i'm sure i'll like the way it is going to be. all i ask is that if i take a 226k mark i have a chance to take down any jedi, even if it takes an hour.
BDragon
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:30 pm
#9
I feel they have gone the completely wrong way with both Jedi and BH. In their original forms, both professions were far better than they are now.
BH should once again be made a 230 SP-to master profession. Why, you ask? Because that is the only way it will be viable to have power anywhere near that of a Jedi without nerfing Jedi to the ground. A bounty hunter should not be a run of the mill proffesion, it should be more than that. Also, a BH should be good at one thing and one thing only, that is hunting. The reason BH is now FOTM is because it is the best for every situation. Stick BH with any ranged profession and you become better at your job, that is wrong.
They went wrong with Jedi as a profession (not the idea) when they let us have normal skills along with Jedi. Jedi should be Jedi and thats it. A low lvl Jedi should have only one option when a BH comes for them and that is to run. I ask you BH this, if the Padawan box cost 250 SP, with all skills after that costing 0 but you knew a low lvl paddy would be just that, would you still say Jedi didnt earn their power and want it taken away? If you knew that every Jedi had to start defencless and battle their way to the point where they had some power, wouldnt it be an acheievment that even you as BH would have to respec when a Jedi reached the lvl where they could stand and fight you?
Anyway, just me thinking out loud...
BH should once again be made a 230 SP-to master profession. Why, you ask? Because that is the only way it will be viable to have power anywhere near that of a Jedi without nerfing Jedi to the ground. A bounty hunter should not be a run of the mill proffesion, it should be more than that. Also, a BH should be good at one thing and one thing only, that is hunting. The reason BH is now FOTM is because it is the best for every situation. Stick BH with any ranged profession and you become better at your job, that is wrong.
They went wrong with Jedi as a profession (not the idea) when they let us have normal skills along with Jedi. Jedi should be Jedi and thats it. A low lvl Jedi should have only one option when a BH comes for them and that is to run. I ask you BH this, if the Padawan box cost 250 SP, with all skills after that costing 0 but you knew a low lvl paddy would be just that, would you still say Jedi didnt earn their power and want it taken away? If you knew that every Jedi had to start defencless and battle their way to the point where they had some power, wouldnt it be an acheievment that even you as BH would have to respec when a Jedi reached the lvl where they could stand and fight you?
Anyway, just me thinking out loud...
VolvoSsixtyTsix
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:38 pm
#10
BDragon wrote:
I feel they have gone the completely wrong way with both Jedi and BH. In their original forms, both professions were far better than they are now.
BH should once again be made a 230 SP-to master profession. Why, you ask? Because that is the only way it will be viable to have power anywhere near that of a Jedi without nerfing Jedi to the ground. A bounty hunter should not be a run of the mill proffesion, it should be more than that. Also, a BH should be good at one thing and one thing only, that is hunting. The reason BH is now FOTM is because it is the best for every situation. Stick BH with any ranged profession and you become better at your job, that is wrong.
They went wrong with Jedi as a profession (not the idea) when they let us have normal skills along with Jedi. Jedi should be Jedi and thats it. A low lvl Jedi should have only one option when a BH comes for them and that is to run. I ask you BH this, if the Padawan box cost 250 SP, with all skills after that costing 0 but you knew a low lvl paddy would be just that, would you still say Jedi didnt earn their power and want it taken away? If you knew that every Jedi had to start defencless and battle their way to the point where they had some power, wouldnt it be an acheievment that even you as BH would have to respec when a Jedi reached the lvl where they could stand and fight you?
Anyway, just me thinking out loud...
I agree. It was a good time when BH required 217 skill points, if you saw another MBH around it was like meeting a brother. MBHs were rare and were respected by other players, since MBH grind was very hard and long. Right now...every joe is MBH and there is very little to no effort involved.
BDragon
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:45 pm
#11
VolvoSsixtyTsix wrote:
BDragon wrote:
I feel they have gone the completely wrong way with both Jedi and BH. In their original forms, both professions were far better than they are now.
BH should once again be made a 230 SP-to master profession. Why, you ask? Because that is the only way it will be viable to have power anywhere near that of a Jedi without nerfing Jedi to the ground. A bounty hunter should not be a run of the mill proffesion, it should be more than that. Also, a BH should be good at one thing and one thing only, that is hunting. The reason BH is now FOTM is because it is the best for every situation. Stick BH with any ranged profession and you become better at your job, that is wrong.
They went wrong with Jedi as a profession (not the idea) when they let us have normal skills along with Jedi. Jedi should be Jedi and thats it. A low lvl Jedi should have only one option when a BH comes for them and that is to run. I ask you BH this, if the Padawan box cost 250 SP, with all skills after that costing 0 but you knew a low lvl paddy would be just that, would you still say Jedi didnt earn their power and want it taken away? If you knew that every Jedi had to start defencless and battle their way to the point where they had some power, wouldnt it be an acheievment that even you as BH would have to respec when a Jedi reached the lvl where they could stand and fight you?
Anyway, just me thinking out loud...
I agree. It was a good time when BH required 217 skill points, if you saw another MBH around it was like meeting a brother. MBHs were rare and were respected by other players, since MBH grind was very hard and long. Right now...every joe is MBH and there is very little to no effort involved.
Yeah, it was meeting a MBH back in October 2003 and talking to him that inspired me to make my second (this) account a Pistoleer/BH. Back then a MBH was the guy you went to for all advice regarding guns, they were the vets amoung vets. Highly respected and dangerous on the battlefield (until all those nerfs hit, making MBH a joke). I would love to see Jedi and BH rolled back to something more in line with the original ideas.
pagoa
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:46 pm
#12
yup
now master bh is judged on their ability to kill good 226k jedi marks imo. and now with kashyk in the mix, 226k jedi are all i can find lol.
Jaim_Darkstryder
Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:23 pm
#13
masselin wrote:
remember that fight between han solo and greedo ? lol
Yeah, Han exploited Last Ditch by kicking the leg of the table to lower his health and then opening the fight with a 4k shot!
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