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Thread: A point to consider with the pub 19 changes to Jedi

diepa
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:33 am
#1

As everyone is celebrating that we will be able to kill Jedi rather easiky when the changes go into effect, I am not going to list them as everybody knows them already, I thought of something that may have been overlooked.


If you read through the posts on this forum, top complaint has to be Kash for the lack of droids and the LOS issues, followed closely by "mobile Homes". In other words, the biggest complaint of the BH is that the Jedi mark will not fight. I fail to realize how these changes will do anything but increase the problem.
joisey
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:40 am
#2

Right you are, and if you got rifle in your temp and use conceal shot that auto tarqet thing gonna put a dentif the jedi not engaged.

And while I'm whooping it up as much as the next guy over these changes, there's no way I even think this pub goes though as it stands right now. My cash flow depends on bounties, they do this to the "gang in jammies" and I better tune up my crafter cause there ain't gonna be too many on the terms.

Message Edited by joisey on 06-22-2005 05:45 AM



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Hasun
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:41 am
#3






diepa wrote:

As everyone is celebrating that we will be able to kill Jedi rather easiky when the changes go into effect, I am not going to list them as everybody knows them already, I thought of something that may have been overlooked.


If you read through the posts on this forum, top complaint has to be Kash for the lack of droids and the LOS issues, followed closely by "mobile Homes". In other words, the biggest complaint of the BH is that the Jedi mark will not fight. I fail to realize how these changes will do anything but increase the problem.






Those people who were complaining were talking about grinding jedi. What this patch is going to do is make a jedi that is ready to do the knight trials touchable.


For a month fully templated jedi have complained that no BH's come for them and when they do they've killed 4 or 5 at a time (before the flamefest starts i'll link you to the posts), now bh's will be able to go after jedi 200k+ solo and with the devs pushing for jedi missions to be 1 on 1 then this is the first step into making that happen.


Again till its tested and hits live, no one knows what it will bring, remember when the original cu documents were posted and the BH's had a party and the jedi were posting "end of the world posts", look how that turned out.





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raora
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:46 am
#4






Hasun wrote:





diepa wrote:

As everyone is celebrating that we will be able to kill Jedi rather easiky when the changes go into effect, I am not going to list them as everybody knows them already, I thought of something that may have been overlooked.


If you read through the posts on this forum, top complaint has to be Kash for the lack of droids and the LOS issues, followed closely by "mobile Homes". In other words, the biggest complaint of the BH is that the Jedi mark will not fight. I fail to realize how these changes will do anything but increase the problem.






Those people who were complaining were talking about grinding jedi. What this patch is going to do is make a jedi that is ready to do the knight trials touchable.


For a month fully templated jedi have complained that no BH's come for them and when they do they've killed 4 or 5 at a time (before the flamefest starts i'll link you to the posts), now bh's will be able to go after jedi 200k+ solo and with the devs pushing for jedi missions to be 1 on 1 then this is the first step into making that happen.


Again till its tested and hits live, no one knows what it will bring, remember when the original cu documents were posted and the BH's had a party and the jedi were posting "end of the world posts", look how that turned out.








with the weapons that are already out there ive had plenty to come for me solo as a 226k mission this will bring even more of an unbalance.



warrenbassist
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:52 am
#5

It really depends on the BH you ask. Yes I don't like it when Jedi hide in guild halls then log off, when I come looking for them. But I'd much rather see regular professions be important in combat than "who has the most Jedi".
MrDoppa
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:00 am
#6

I think the whole idea should be that the jedi has slightly better combat skills. But in the end, it should be personal pvp skills that make the difference. While some may disagree, a master bh beating up on a lowly padawan prob isnt all that cool. Although I will have to agree with all the players who have said so . "It's part of the game." So when it happens, there should be no grief about it. But the fact that there will be more of a motivator for bh's to go after bigger game is a good thing. More money for the bh's. A more level playing field for the jedi. And more money for my crafters cause there will be more credits in the universe going around. lol. where we will lose some of our flexibilty by the way that missions will be gotten. Being able to beat a higher template jedi will balance that out some.



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OrionSeven
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:06 am
#7


After pub 19, Jedi will come up with new ways to stay alive, and BH's will come up with new ways to kill them anyway.


It'll be the same situation as before.




If the Jedi actually have some kind of mass exodus from the game, then great. More will come anyway.


It's like the CU... Everyone freaked out, and people threatened to leave. And sure, we lost a few folks. But new players came in and took their place.


Same with the Jedi. If any Jedi run off and go somewhere else, all power to them. But more Jedi will pop up eventually. I mean, everyone knows someone who's converting xp at the village....


And hey, maybe the next generation of Jedi won't be as whiney, or arrogant, as the old-school Jedi.




Either way, no skin off my back. I stick with the NPC marks.



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Jigga_Hov
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:09 am
#8






diepa wrote:

As everyone is celebrating that we will be able to kill Jedi rather easiky when the changes go into effect, I am not going to list them as everybody knows them already, I thought of something that may have been overlooked.


If you read through the posts on this forum, top complaint has to be Kash for the lack of droids and the LOS issues, followed closely by "mobile Homes". In other words, the biggest complaint of the BH is that the Jedi mark will not fight. I fail to realize how these changes will do anything but increase the problem.





i have botha Paddy and a MBH, i can see both sides of the arguemant


Until they make Fighting worth while for a level 48 Paddy then u can forget the idea. I dont leave home without my mobile home.


i had a level 80 BH/Mpistoleer at my door for an hour last night, can u pls tell me where my benifit is for fighting??, Until there is 1 i wont fight,


I chose to fight to prove a point 3 days ago, I left the safety of the GH and engaged the BH, 3 shots from the proton carbine and i was -167,000 im + exp now but after 191 more kills, approx 2 1/2 - 3hrs work.i did take out his bike for spite and to lower his profits after i stood up from the incap






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FernGully
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:15 am
#9

Honestly, I expect...

- this pub will take another step towards making Jedi = normal profs. More steps will come, but this is definitely a significant one.

- some Jedi will quit/sell their accounts as a result of this pub, but plenty will continue to play

- there will be yet another wave of immigrants to the BH profession now that the odds have gotten better for BH vs Full temp Jedi.

- jedi will begin to adopt the mantra "escape and evade" when it comes to BH fighting. We're rapidly approaching a point where the BH is holding all the cards (damage dealing, initiative, no force bar to deal with), and the Jedi has no real or substantive advantages while the BH has several. The one thing that the Jedi skill trees still offer are great exit options (stasis, force run, cloak). Just as Jedi have recently leaned on their advantages in defense and healing, now expect them to be leaning on their advantages in buggering off from a fight.



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