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Thread: why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs ?
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reading
Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:18 am
#1
Yes, why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs?
aren't they powerful enough already, don't they have extraordinary defenses already, but must they also be allowed to wear PSGs?
i hit them as a Master Rifleman/Master BH/Pistoleer 0404 with 300 accuracy and a 330dps t21 for 100-250 damage , not to mention i miss every 2nd shot, but they hit me for 400,600 and 1000 and my PSG won't do anything to stop their lightsabers enery damage!
i've got a around 2k PSG, and about 5.9 energy resist armor, but still they just armor break and i die in 3 hits.
why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs? PSGs are armor, their innate armor should be affected by that
aren't they powerful enough already, don't they have extraordinary defenses already, but must they also be allowed to wear PSGs?
i hit them as a Master Rifleman/Master BH/Pistoleer 0404 with 300 accuracy and a 330dps t21 for 100-250 damage , not to mention i miss every 2nd shot, but they hit me for 400,600 and 1000 and my PSG won't do anything to stop their lightsabers enery damage!
i've got a around 2k PSG, and about 5.9 energy resist armor, but still they just armor break and i die in 3 hits.
why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs? PSGs are armor, their innate armor should be affected by that
xplayrh8rx
Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:29 am
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Yeah i had the same thing happen to me , I used sniper shot on a 223k Jedi and only did 200 damage then was handed a butt whooping as i had no chance of doing any serious damage .
Sokal
Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:32 am
#3
Yes, why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs?
aren't they powerful enough already, don't they have extraordinary defenses already, but must they also be allowed to wear PSGs?
i hit them as a Master Rifleman/Master BH/Pistoleer 0404 with 300 accuracy and a 330dps t21 for 100-250 damage , not to mention i miss every 2nd shot, but they hit me for 400,600 and 1000 and my PSG won't do anything to stop their lightsabers enery damage!
i've got a around 2k PSG, and about 5.9 energy resist armor, but still they just armor break and i die in 3 hits.
why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs? PSGs are armor, their innate armor should be affected by that
aren't they powerful enough already, don't they have extraordinary defenses already, but must they also be allowed to wear PSGs?
i hit them as a Master Rifleman/Master BH/Pistoleer 0404 with 300 accuracy and a 330dps t21 for 100-250 damage , not to mention i miss every 2nd shot, but they hit me for 400,600 and 1000 and my PSG won't do anything to stop their lightsabers enery damage!
i've got a around 2k PSG, and about 5.9 energy resist armor, but still they just armor break and i die in 3 hits.
why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs? PSGs are armor, their innate armor should be affected by that
Lightsaber damage???
Thats OLD man.. Now lightsaber attacks with heat,cold,energy,etc..There is no lightsaber damage after CU..
Second..
I'm a BH/JEDI.. very low level jedi at that.. I get killed twice to 3 times a day.. each kill is -190k. So if I'm a MBH/JEDI gettin killed each day I guess u could say I'm not that strong. Even with my PSG. Which I have crates of pre-CU PSG's..
zukem
Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:34 am
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reading wrote:
Yes, why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs?
aren't they powerful enough already, don't they have extraordinary defenses already, but must they also be allowed to wear PSGs?
i hit them as a Master Rifleman/Master BH/Pistoleer 0404 with 300 accuracy and a 330dps t21 for 100-250 damage , not to mention i miss every 2nd shot, but they hit me for 400,600 and 1000 and my PSG won't do anything to stop their lightsabers enery damage!
i've got a around 2k PSG, and about 5.9 energy resist armor, but still they just armor break and i die in 3 hits.
why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs? PSGs are armor, their innate armor should be affected by that
A few things. PSG's only protect against ranged attacks. they do nothing for melee attacks. You missing every second shot isdue totheir defenses (250ish + 500 for aura + about a +50 to block if they have valor and 0004 ls). The amount of damage you take is probably due to your low melee defense, since everything they do (not sure on powers) is melee, including saber toss.
As for why jedi can wear a psg. Got me. It was surprising to me that we were able to wear one. Many jedi still don't know that you can wear a psg. So if they are allowing it, I'm wearing it.
Jargal
Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:42 am
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Not to forget thier force armor too. It caps at armorrating 10000!
The best reconarmor anyone can make is only 8000.
And with PSG they will increace it even more...LOL!
This is in fact a dieing game...
Holzen
Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:14 am
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You say that like everyone has it. It is a huge waste of skill points to get to 10000 (MDEF plus the FA2 line in enhancer) when it only gives you something like 5% more reduction from7000armor (MDEF). And why shouldn't Jedi be able to wear them? I don't hear anyone complaining that it doesn't interfere with TKA inate armor. Plus it's depleted in 2-3 shots from a rifleman, so it's not like you get that reduction for the entire fight. If you can't outlast a PSG in a fight then you are doing something wrong to begin with.
Jargal wrote:
Not to forget thier force armor too. It caps at armorrating 10000!
The best reconarmor anyone can make is only 8000.
And with PSG they will increace it even more...LOL!
This is in fact a dieing game...
Message Edited by Holzen on 07-17-2005 10:17 AM
Arcadias
Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:30 am
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Jargal wrote:
Not to forget thier force armor too. It caps at armorrating 10000!
The best reconarmor anyone can make is only 8000.
And with PSG they will increace it even more...LOL!
This is in fact a dieing game...
In theory this is right. MDefender (7000)with x4xx Enhancer (4000)= 11000
Now it depends where it caps. I yet have to see real tests on this (maybe because this template is rare, if anybody has it at all) but it is very possible that the cap is 8000, too.
8000 = 56.0%
10000 = 60%
(4% more...)
But anyways: You can check this what is possible with that (dont forget 6 Tier4 boxes in FS). I dont mean there is no possible template with that but I never heared of it... (The skills are not up-to-date tho)
And to the PSG/Aura problem: I thought this new LLC was so good? Whats it called... Heavy LLC or something? PSGs should be useless against it.
And try to get a high min damage, because high defenses reduce your damage-output towards min-damage.
willym
Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:39 am
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lol extraordinary defenses ummm no. we have the lowest of any melee proffession out there i get around 238 with 4440 defender and clothes master defenders get 300 with clothes. master tka and swordsman are around 4 to 500 with clothes. powerful enough already lol ummmm no. and defence staker worth his salt can last long enough to drain a jedi force bar then its over. and as far as not doing any damage well welcome to our world master riflman can hit for 1000 to 1500 points of damage to our 700 to 900 points of damage.
chewie49
Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:16 am
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my MP / MLS jedi has less than 40 ranged and melee defense....soooo overpowered /rolleyes
tamer_bourne
Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:23 am
#10
Tells us the truth, you are a respec BH aren't you? 
I killed a lot of full templates recently and to hit for 100-250 dmg you must be using a cdef weapon...
kaysre
Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:24 am
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Lol. Sorry had to laugh at this thread. Maybe for your convenience they should just run around naked. Too strong...maybe you need to re-work your template 
StiflerPG
Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:28 am
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reading wrote:
Yes, why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs?
aren't they powerful enough already, don't they have extraordinary defenses already, but must they also be allowed to wear PSGs?
i hit them as a Master Rifleman/Master BH/Pistoleer 0404 with 300 accuracy and a 330dps t21 for 100-250 damage , not to mention i miss every 2nd shot, but they hit me for 400,600 and 1000 and my PSG won't do anything to stop their lightsabers enery damage!
i've got a around 2k PSG, and about 5.9 energy resist armor, but still they just armor break and i die in 3 hits.
why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs? PSGs are armor, their innate armor should be affected by that
Use a Kenetic weapon. What good willa PSG be then?
GlargTheKelfn
Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:40 am
#13
StiflerPG wrote:
reading wrote:
Yes, why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs?
aren't they powerful enough already, don't they have extraordinary defenses already, but must they also be allowed to wear PSGs?
i hit them as a Master Rifleman/Master BH/Pistoleer 0404 with 300 accuracy and a 330dps t21 for 100-250 damage , not to mention i miss every 2nd shot, but they hit me for 400,600 and 1000 and my PSG won't do anything to stop their lightsabers enery damage!
i've got a around 2k PSG, and about 5.9 energy resist armor, but still they just armor break and i die in 3 hits.
why are jedi allowed to wear PSGs? PSGs are armor, their innate armor should be affected by that
Use a Kenetic weapon. What good will a PSG be then?
like say..... a scatter pisol? the mbh certed weapon.... i think it is knetic.. almost like the dev's intended it to be used against psg's
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