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Thread: Are rifleman this good or am I that bad?

Led_Zinum
Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:58 am
#1

I usually don't PVP, and if I do it's usually just a fun duel. I've dueled maybe 5 or 6 times since i've started playing back when SWG first came out.

I'm a Master Bounty Hunter/Master Pistoleer and have 0300 of Carbines.

This guy in Theed was asking people to duel him and I thought "what the hell, might as well shake off some of the dust." So I go at it. Well this guy decides to not accept the duel till he's well outside of 50 meters. If i would've chased him, i'm sure he wouldn't have accepted it. But i figure i can probably take a few hits running at him and close the distance to do my damage. Well, he's a Rifleman for sure. He's a doc of some sort for sure. and he has a knockdown. He was a CL72.

First shot-knockdown. I go down. I use knockdown recovery and get up. While i'm down he hits me three times. First shot was 1200, second 700, third 700 and as soon as i get up the fourth goes and 900. I'm out.

Okay, so i shake it off and say well if i was at close range to start i should be able to beat him with my pistol. since that's my fastest hardest hitting. So we duel again at 13m. I'm expecting knock down for sure so i do duelist stance right off the bat this time. it save me the first shot. but as i'm ready to spam my knock down he gets me on the ground again. 1200 damage. i try to get up but it says i can't. i spam and spam knockdown recovery, but nothing. same thing, first shot 1200, second 700, third 700, and fourth was around 800. Both fights lasted about 9 seconds or so. I couldn't believe it.

My brother asked me to duel him just so we could see what kind of damage i'm doing. he's a Master Teras Kasi and Master Swords with some medic. I was hitting him for about 300 per shot even with his center of being on. But i was running out of action quicker than i could deal the damage. plus he was healing so i essentially wasn't doing anything to him.

So my question. Why go MBH/MP and carbines if i can't take out a simple rifleman. I should've at least been able to give him a run for his money.

So did I do something wrong here or is my combo crap? If so it's a shame I respeced my character from MBH and doc 4000 and Pistoleer 0003 to this. I was only a CL63, but i'm pretty confident i would've just got knocked down and got hit with insane damage anyway. This guys rifle fired almost as fast as my pistol does. I just don't get it.

Please, no flames. just some advice. I have no problems with anything else. Just PVP.



IMZORRO
opoko
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:10 am
#2

dont use kd recovery before the animation shows that you fall. else it sometimes gets buggy and you cant get up.

for a fiar duel, try to have them on same level as you. best is when you both are full templet and or level 80.
Actairr
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:11 am
#3

I too am a pistoleer and LOVE pistols. Here is what you do next time. Wait until he gets outside of your range and accepts the duel, then step inside the starport. Nothing wrong with using your surroundings to your advantage. Your mind is your best weapon.
Geauxx
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:16 am
#4






Actairr wrote:
I too am a pistoleer and LOVE pistols. Here is what you do next time. Wait until he gets outside of your range and accepts the duel, then step inside the starport. Nothing wrong with using your surroundings to your advantage. Your mind is your best weapon.




QFE.


Use the terrain to your advantage or simply back up untilyou are out of his range. Use theTerrain to make your way towards him and even up the odds.


As a rifleman I hate fighting in cities and hilly terrain but if I catchyou in an open area it could get ugly. Every Tempcan be beaten now. Itjust takes exp and the knowledge of you temp tosurvive.





Geaux Darkcloud
Bounty Hunter / Horrible Pilot / Tobacco Spitter / All Around Cajun/Tapoh's Alt
One of the Last Survivng Members of the O-o-D
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SwenLaransa
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:20 am
#5

I'd take pistols over rifles, but I'm odd that way. Riflemen hit hard. They don't do much else. Pistols can root so he can't move out of your range, intimidate so you take less damage, make you skip an attack, and a handful of other highly useful things.

If you duel against a rifleman, yeah, you're probably gunna get smoked if he gets first shot in. If you pvp in a group you will see just how useful you are. You're the guy who all the riflemen will follow. You paint the target, you take care of those who are being a little too useful for the other side, you lead the charge.




Swen Laransa
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WittyNewt
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:56 am
#6


I am confused here, you say you are MBH, MP, C0300 and yet you only have lvl 63? You should be lvl 80 with dual elite masters. (edit, scrub that I just reread your message and realised I misread things


Its possible he was using adv startle and maybe disarming shot on you as a delay chain to stop you being able to get up after kding you, although the damage numbers look very high for that, did you ask him his template afterwards? You also have a delay - disarming shot which might be a good opener for you to get the initiative and so lead the fight rather than follow his moves. A disarming shot to allow you to close with him followed by a eye shot to kill his accuracy when you get close might work well.


Message Edited by WittyNewt on 06-20-2005 05:58 PM



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