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Thread: How i percieve Star Wars
Star Wars have really always been about Jedi, so thats not really all that suprising. And definitely not when you have seent he comercials SOE have used to promote this game: Its about jedi too.
I dont have really anything against 9/10 going jedi.
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-21-2005 12:35 PM
iskareot wrote:
While this is a good post and true there is alot of aspects of Star Wars, it comes down to what is in the eye of the beholder and what they want to play and do.
Now then, if you use the word "CHOICE" , then at least you can relate to some of the issues here. Sure there is alot of aspects of Star Wars... but you have to think about , Business, Fanbase,Perspective. With all of that said, you might want to look around at what types of people or what (most) people want to be in the Star Wars Universe.
First and foremost, I don't think alot of these kids and people came to SWG to be a Chef... if you do then your fooling yourself.
Then I ask you, if you were selling this game what would you promote? Not Chef or Merchant that is for sure... its not appealing and its not eye candy. (Remember this is still a business). WHAT YOU percieve as Star Wars may not be what ALL PEOPLE think is Star Wars. SO with that said you have your answer why things are the way they are. What Market of people are they after?
I think we all agree , the movies, books and comics revolve MOSTLY around Jedi... this is a fact and that is the way it is.
How it went down in this game is not exactly the way I would have wanted it to but its a bit late for that discussion.
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-21-2005 09:11 AM
NeoBlaze2k3 wrote:
Your right, this movies were made for casual viewers of star wars, they had to emphaise jedi to sell. Why? Because they were casual viewers would didn't think see Star Wars as a UNIVERSE, but only saw the lightsabers and mind tricks. With that being said, Star Wars Galaxies is a game made for (initially) for casual gamers, so why would they use the same advertisement of jedi to sell? Face it, without jedi, Star Wars would be nothing. Really? The reason why everyone watched EP3 was not for the wookiees, it was to see the Fall of the Choosen one, to see the fall of the JEDI council. The beginning of th empire was just something to kep from raising questions.
..... and at that point you almost wanted to believe it was true ... that han with all his luck, and all his charm was just as formidable as these mysterious jedi knights ...at that point you realized no matter how powerful jedi were, that skepticism and streets smarts and that cynical laugh, were just as cool ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-21-2005 09:06 AM
and i would have also ( as the devs did in the begining) emphasized how difficult it was to attain jedi .. and in fact made the path to jedi a random limited thing ..
Haden, XGR Interview
Your Jedi character lives in a world of constant danger, and when a Jedi dies, he's permanently dead (your other characters will respawn at a cloning facility). Jedi are also targets for NPCs and potentially other players. This will make surviving as a Jedi long enough to advance to Jedi Knight or Jedi Master status very difficult."
Haden, IGN Interview
"They will be very hard to become, and very very very rare. And we will continue to adjust the system to keep it that way. (I know, here I go tantalizing ya withuot any concrete details again... )"
Raph, Dec 2000
"Is the game going to exercise a degree of control over whether you become a Jedi? Absolutely. After all, it also exercises a degree of control over whether you become anything else in the game. Will those who wish to become Jedi be able to work towards it? Yes. Will they for sure make it? No, it is not guaranteed. But the opportunity is always there should they decide to travel that rough road. We intend to keep Jedi rare, and we will tweak the system on an ongoing basis to ensure that they stay that way (again, something we have stated before). Yes, it is our *opinion* that Jedi will be very very very rare, but we're also planning on working until they ARE because otherwise we would not be faithful to Star Wars. (And yes, we believe we can make it fun to boot). BTW, being a Jedi or Force sensitive in the time period the game is set in ain't no picnic."
Raph, April 2001
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-21-2005 10:41 AM
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-21-2005 10:42 AM
Actually, Star Wars is only about one Jedi. Anakin Skywalker.
everything else happening is just background. mere paint. something to carry the story of the Rise and Fall then Rise again of Anakin Skywalker.
(as stated by GL himself)
Eraser_BH wrote:
and i would have also ( as the devs did in the begining) emphasized how difficult it was to attain jedi .. and in fact made the path to jedi a random limited thing ..
You mean like this? Oh what could have been......It's too bad the PUBLISHERS decide what happens to the GCW, andthe 30 other professions now. The developers are merely puppets.
"We'll we're really keeping Jedi, the Jedi System, under wraps right now because we want Jedi to be rare and mysterious in the game. We want it to feel like it does in the movies where Jedi are kind of a rare breed. We will say that really the core of it is becoming Force Sensitive. Once you become Force Sensitive your progression through the Jedi ranks is pretty straight forward and follows a lot of the rules we've established already for some of our other skill systems. But the Force Sensitivity aspect is the thing that we're not really talking about. We do have a system in place, it takes into account a wide range of variables, it's different for every player, and no player is excluded from it, so you can't make a wrong choice when you're making up your character that will keep you from becoming a Jedi. That's not the way it works. Everybody has an equal opportunity."
Haden, XGR Interview
Your Jedi character lives in a world of constant danger, and when a Jedi dies, he's permanently dead (your other characters will respawn at a cloning facility). Jedi are also targets for NPCs and potentially other players. This will make surviving as a Jedi long enough to advance to Jedi Knight or Jedi Master status very difficult."
Haden, IGN Interview
"They will be very hard to become, and very very very rare. And we will continue to adjust the system to keep it that way. (I know, here I go tantalizing ya withuot any concrete details again... )"
Raph, Dec 2000
"Is the game going to exercise a degree of control over whether you become a Jedi? Absolutely. After all, it also exercises a degree of control over whether you become anything else in the game. Will those who wish to become Jedi be able to work towards it? Yes. Will they for sure make it? No, it is not guaranteed. But the opportunity is always there should they decide to travel that rough road. We intend to keep Jedi rare, and we will tweak the system on an ongoing basis to ensure that they stay that way (again, something we have stated before). Yes, it is our *opinion* that Jedi will be very very very rare, but we're also planning on working until they ARE because otherwise we would not be faithful to Star Wars. (And yes, we believe we can make it fun to boot). BTW, being a Jedi or Force sensitive in the time period the game is set in ain't no picnic."
Raph, April 2001
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-21-2005 10:41 AM
Message Edited by Eraser_BH on 07-21-2005 10:42 AM
You guys that post these are missing the ones where they also said a Jedi Master could take on 10 or so elite master professions.
But your only one-sighted to what you want. As long as it matches what your thinking.
You have to be kidding. I, as many others think of jedi when we think star wars. I was in no big hurry to become a jedi, but it was my goal back when I started playing almost 2 years ago. This is a game and does not reflect the movies, yeah the storyline was based off the movies.. but think of an alterante universe. That is what swg is, it is our experience and our experiences will change the story to paralell the movies.. kind like how would the world tun out if I died now, or if I became a millionair..how would it effect the world. To say that there should only be 24 jedi on each server after 2 years of playing is ridiculous. Myself and many others that have played so many different professions would probably not even started playing swg.
I do agree that there could be alot more stuff in the game to take alot of the focus on jedi, but I still feel that anyone.. not just a random few should be able to be a jedi if they want. This game could have had alot more content added. Vehicles for combat, even more types of armor, more ships, more weapons you name it.. and it could have been added some how. I have to remind you that this game is only 2 years old, so something has got to be saved for its older age (look at how long EQ has been online). Your ideas of the Star Wars Universe is not the same as everyone else, and jedi is a HUGE part of star wars (and I agree that its not everything). But the complete series revolves around the light side and dark side of the force, which involves jedi. Jedi are the focal point of the story. I have only seen 2 star wars movies and no book that wasn't about jedi in one way shape or form, and those 2 movies where the Ewok movies (they are on DVD now) that played on TV only back in the mid 80's.