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Thread: Little Idea I had today while in game...

Ordu
Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:23 pm
#1


Well here is my idea you can flame or agree. I hope you agree =)


There are a lot of Jedi that I have encountered that view the terminals as their way to have some PVP. This is what they do they will spam their powers and sabers in populated places to ensure they are always high up on the vis. So then they go chill in their house when X BH rolls by they buff up and go out side taunting and smack talking. One this takes away our alpha attack and two reinforces the need for a BH skill that allows for normal running without showing up on the radar screen, if they see us coming then we lost our suprise. Also, they do this since they are full temp and could care less about dying which is a problem.


Here is my resolution to levels of vis


1st Level once you acheive x amount of vis you get placed on the BH terminals. Amount of the bounty is equated to the number of skill boxes they earned in the Jedi trees. This way the people who are newer and lower skilled will really wanna keep their vis down since people know we will know about how many skill boxes they have or do not have. Something like 5k credits per box in the Jedi trees. Once you are beated by a BH you suffer the normal exp loss in the current game and then have your Vis reduced to the min amount needed to be on the BH terminals. Only way to get off the BH terminals is to not play your jedi for a week. Go play your alt get their template done and make some credits.


2nd Level This is the level that is for those people who have finished their template and think they do not have any penalties for dying to a BH. Once they have acheived this level of vis they are still on the BH terminals but they can be seen because they have a very high bounty so only those with the best of equipment should go after them. Also, due to their high vis the Emperor is hearing word of new Jedi coming out of no where. He is outraged by this and scolds Lord Vader for allowing a few of them to slip through his fingers. Lord Vader takes heed to this and goes to finish what he started and destory the Jedi order. After the person loads from any loading screen he will be at risk of Lord Vader appearing and killing the Jedi. There will be only once chance to escape from Vader when he goes for you the first time. The Jedi will be allowed to force run away and must immediatly log off their character. To convince the emperor that you have abonded the ways of the Jedi you must stay off of your character for 2 weeks RL time.Go play your alt. After two week RL time your vis is reset to the min amount needed to be on the BH terminals. If you log in to your character after the first encounter there will be no escape and Vader will cut you down and chase after you. (Vader can see through cloak since his mind is not easily clouded)


Once you have been defeated your vis will be reduced to 90% of what it takes to get on the BH terminals. So you do get some respit from being hunted but you will have little margin for error. Also, to ensure there is a penalty for those that have this amount of vis you will lose your highest ranked skill box in your Jedi trees. So you if you have the Master Lightsaber box and Master Defender box and no other boxes higher then you will randomly lose one or the other. If multiple boxes are tied for highest in rank then you will have an equal chance to lose one. You do not get to pick the game picks for you so it is fair to everyone.


Well that is my idea. It gives a way for the BH to keep the Jedi from gaining exp and gives the Jedi a way to get rid of their visability completely. Also, it gives BH a chance to not always be up against full template Jedi they have little chance to beat unless they have the best of equipment. This is more of a time saver so the BH does not need to chase after random people they will be able to tell a little about how hard a Jedi might be.


Just a thought I had while in game today facing the 15th "house" Jedi. Those that wait in houses for BH to roll by and then think they deserve a fight where they have all the advantages. I drop there missions and go get a new one never talking to them ever. Just always thinking wow they must be bored.
Ordu
Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:12 pm
#2

Any thoughts at all from people?
LxKane
Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:26 pm
#3

The Vader idea isn't really bad but if they put that in the game Vader would do so much traveling in one week that he'd be able to use his frequent flyer miles for the rest of his life. I think something the equivalent of Nova Troopers would be appropiate though.


And there needs to be a way for Jedi to reduce thier vis but still be able to play thier character. Like when they die to a BH that has thier mission they are taken off the terminals until they get more vis, instead of having them not play thier chatacter.
Hoboken
Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:34 pm
#4



LxKane wrote:
The Vader idea isn't really bad but if they put that in the game Vader would do so much traveling in one week that he'd be able to use his frequent flyer miles for the rest of his life. I think something the equivalent of Nova Troopers would be appropiate though.
And there needs to be a way for Jedi to reduce thier vis but still be able to play thier character. Like when they die to a BH that has thier mission they are taken off the terminals until they get more vis, instead of having them not play thier chatacter.





I agree, the people who play the jedi are paying customers just like you. They should NOT be punished by not being able to play their characters just because they happened to loose to a bh.
Ordu
Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:13 am
#5


That is why they have an alt character. The point of the post is to make Jedi want to avoid vis by punishing them if they do not. Staying off their character is the way to avoid losing it is not a requirement. By all means take the death and take the penalities. Something more than a BH will come after you that you can easily stomp into the group does nothing to want them not to get vis. Most of them look at it as fun PVP and want more vis so they have a better chance of getting on the terminals.


Playing a Jedi character is not a right it is privelage that they earned through months of grinding. This system would bring back the normal character as the main focus since Jedi would be avoid vis like the plauge or being forced to regrind their stuff since they were foolish enough to think they can just go around doing whatever they please without penalty. Time to take Jedi down a rung or two and remind them they are not gods of the game.
Gohma_Manovich
Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:26 am
#6


problem is its the scenario that you arnt allowed to play your main account, and i'm not too keen on my alt as i unlocked jedi and i want to play as jedi not wait for 2 weeks everytime i get a npc/bh attack in a public place




and btw BH were given jedi missions as a form of content not to keep jedi population down


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Holzen
Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:38 am
#7






Ordu wrote:


That is why they have an alt character. The point of the post is to make Jedi want to avoid vis by punishing them if they do not. Staying off their character is the way to avoid losing it is not a requirement. By all means take the death and take the penalities. Something more than a BH will come after you that you can easily stomp into the group does nothing to want them not to get vis. Most of them look at it as fun PVP and want more vis so they have a better chance of getting on the terminals.


Playing a Jedi character is not a right it is privelage that they earned through months of grinding. This system would bring back the normal character as the main focus since Jedi would be avoid vis like the plauge or being forced to regrind their stuff since they were foolish enough to think they can just go around doing whatever they please without penalty. Time to take Jedi down a rung or two and remind them they are not gods of the game.





You sit here spouting this crap, then sit on the FS forums saying that you think Jedi should be easier to get? You sir are a hypocrite and an idiot. If your forum date is any indication (and I think it is judging by your previous posts) you have no idea how this game works. You have no idea what changes BH's and Jedihave gone through to get to the point we are at now. Jedi have been nerfed into the ground and still you call it a privalege? And you want to penalize a group of people just because they want to have fun PvP'ing? Where is the penalty for BH's that fail their mission? Whereare the checks and balances for the power that BH's have been given? Not that I think there should be, but by your logic next to Jedi, BH's have received more Dev attention by far then any other class. So were are the penalties? I'll agree with you on one point. Jedias it stands now should be no more powerful then a regular profession. But in doing that all penalties need to be removed.SOE commited the cardinal sin of MMO's by introducing an alpha class to unbalance the game. And then to fix it decidedit would be a good idea to add in what at it's very core amounts to Dev supported griefing by introducing Jedi bounties. It was a flawed idea from the start and waspoorly implemented in all it's forms.


If seeing Jedi run around in a game really pisses you off so much you feel the need to punish them.... You seriously need to reevaluate your priorities in life.


Ordu
Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:54 am
#8


Holzen making a Jedi easier to get and penalities for having vis does not make me a hypocrite. You might need to check your definition of the word before you spout it off. Also, who cares how easy it is get something in a game.


The penalty is not for playing your Jedi but for getting Visibility. One can play their Jedi and not get visibility however, for those that do here is a punishment for a neglected in game system.


Nerfs or not the Jedi profession is the most powerful in the game where almost all other professions are negelected is not right I would say.


Get a clue before you go and spout things you know not of Holzen


Holzen
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:13 am
#9






Ordu wrote:


Holzen making a Jedi easier to get and penalities for having vis does not make me a hypocrite. You might need to check your definition of the word before you spout it off. Also, who cares how easy it is get something in a game.


The penalty is not for playing your Jedi but for getting Visibility. One can play their Jedi and not get visibility however, for those that do here is a punishment for a neglected in game system.


Nerfs or not the Jedi profession is the most powerful in the game where almost all other professions are negelected is not right I would say.


Get a clue before you go and spout things you know not of Holzen








You cancelled after playing less then 30 days, but you still feel the need to tell us how things should be? And as for being a hypocrite, you say that they should give a Jedi as a vet reward, or make it so everyone can get one right away, basically anything that doesn't involve grinding. Then you say that if all those people that get Jedi actually want to play them....they should be punished? Ok....so I can see the distinction. You aren't a hypocrite, but I still stand by idiot.


Andyou want tosay that Jedi are so powerful? Have you ever played one? Have you ever fought one as a BH? I've been both. And I can tell you that as it stands now. It's who is the better PvP'er. And believe it or not, the majority of the time it's the BH.The vast majority of people become BH to do one thing....hunt Jedi. So they are by nature betterat PvP. Yes there are a lot of people that got Jedi to PvP also, but there are a lot that got Jedithat have no interest in PvP whatsoever. Why are there so many threads aboutJedi using FR / Cloak / etc to escape fights that they are losing? Why are there no threads on the Jedi forums claiming to have killed 200+ BH's? The fact is that the mystic of Jedi being so powerful is just not true anymore. But then again....if you had played more then 30 days you might understand that. So as you said....


"Get a clue before you go and spout things you know not of"
Holzen
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:14 am
#10

double post.....gotta love Lithium....

Message Edited by Holzen on 09-10-2005 11:15 AM

MilannaSati
Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:52 am
#11






Ordu wrote:


That is why they have an alt character. The point of the post is to make Jedi want to avoid vis by punishing them if they do not. Staying off their character is the way to avoid losing it is not a requirement. By all means take the death and take the penalities. Something more than a BH will come after you that you can easily stomp into the group does nothing to want them not to get vis. Most of them look at it as fun PVP and want more vis so they have a better chance of getting on the terminals.


Playing a Jedi character is not a right it is privelage that they earned through months of grinding. This system would bring back the normal character as the main focus since Jedi would be avoid vis like the plauge or being forced to regrind their stuff since they were foolish enough to think they can just go around doing whatever they please without penalty. Time to take Jedi down a rung or two and remind them they are not gods of the game.





The problem with your logic is that many people create jedi to enjoy high end content or pvpin the game. Doing so requires the use of force powers, which is usually going to generate visibility. So, aside from logging in to chat with friends (and who among us is going to pay $15 for that honor?) or decorate a house, that pretty much makes it useless and undesirable to attain a Jedi character. Which, while I'm sure is your goal here, will never be Sony's goal because it will severely crimp their profits.




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