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Thread: A jedi's opinion on BH profession

Rabekah
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:04 pm
#1


BH has been too heavily nerfed by publish 20, think many BH will grind quickly to retemplate to get the MBH then drop profession when get too many wookie land missions and solo thrashings by full template jedi.


Once your a Jedi BH become a large part of your game, they keep the challange - people can hunt you now. An unexpected PvP fight to the death is a lot of fun when it is not a gank. I salute all BH that came at me once I reached full template, thats about20 in 3 months. Died to a team of 4 killing one, all the rest died.


I also spit on all BH that came for me teamed when I was a noob Jedi, especially same faction killers in same grind group etc, ones that wait till Jedi is about incapped by Bol's then attack. I /spit as my opinion is should be able PvP not Pv(Jedi incapped/wounded by a mob).


Now mission payout is too low to cover food, effort and wear and tear on gear.


Lack of a quick name and ability to team on full template jedi, combined with needing to be MBH means in my opinion few or NO BH will be able to solo full template (mDEF) they get mission on.


Most Jedi not hiding on carpet land will be full template Jedi like me that can handle 2 or 3 BH without breaking a sweat, seekers should work in wookie land given noob jedi can stay off terminals grinding on bols grouped now.


I didn't use to like that 5 BH could come for you at a time when you were not full template, only one well set up BH nearly killed me full template a few days ago. Maybe once full template name should display and allow 2 instances of mission.


My worry is that 20 is too much of a nerf, and BH will stop visiting me, I do like to kill you guys /bow

Message Edited by Rabekah on 07-19-2005 09:06 PM



Rabekah
Padawan
Rebel Colonel
Romulus76
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:10 pm
#2

1. BH aren't honorable, any BH that waits for you to be "ready" isn't a bounty hunter.


2. Throwing salt in the wound is not helping, people are pissed here and don't want to read your opinions.


3. If a Jedi is on the terminals it's his fault. The amount of BH's that came after him is irrelevant. Gank squads are irrelevant. The jedi got on the terminals, plain and simple. Jedi whined to get it changed.


I'm sick. Litterally. With SOE and with Jedi and I was a rank 3 enforcer preCU WITHOUT fight clubbing. Jedi whined to get permadeath removed. SOE obliged. Jedi whined to get a revamp. SOE obliged with a revamp that took 2 months and two full publishes to impliment. Jedi whined about skillbox loss, it was replaced with xp loss. Jedi whined about XP loss and SOE obliged with only losing XP to BH DB. Now it's gank squads they whine about and SOE obliges and SCREWS the game up even worse. Quit throwing salt in the wounds man. While you try to sound "serious" in your post, it's not going to serve to do anything but piss people off. Don't do. Refrain.


SOE thought this patch would ease the grief....it's going to do nothing but to bolster it.










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Nathanielstarr
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:10 pm
#3

well all your going to get now is more glowbat weidling yahoos that didn't earn anything...bh was the only true challenge to jedi and they whined that away.


Enjoy your jedi clones.


RebsBeware
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:11 pm
#4

You didnt kill one becks, the quenkers did.You just got the incap on him.That was before we learnt how to beat mdefs tho, nowI'd fight you solo/in a two man team to be sure.But I give you a big /salute for the fight, it was great, long, and a challenge back then. Honour fighting you. Shame about your companions, and sorry for killing your two friends earlier that night at the same grind house. Only came back for you cos of what you said then.


*shrugs*







[ - Mal Dagoth - MBH // CyRen' - MBH - ]


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[ - I used to be a Bounty Hunter, now I'm an 'iconic profession, like Boba Fett!' - ]



EVERY JEDI IS NOW AN ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC



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Nakahs
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:17 pm
#5

/sign


oh btw "target not online" bug is back again or the terms also have missions for jedi who are off. Put this together with the 100000000 messages of "cant track target due the high number of lifesigns" and it is like to play the lottery to pick a jedimission and even be able to track and find the target.


Only way to kill a jedi in the Rryat trials is when the groupleader of the afk grinding jedigroup is sleeping and not drags their afk fellows to the "cant see that target" spot. Well was lucky and could kd one of those zombies and stop the autofollow by this but 1000 times i wasnt.

Its more than frustrating when u make ure way through all instances of the Trials and then meet a good buguser who prevents u from attacking ure target.


however.... sign





First Mandalorian on Infinity
Nakahs
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:19 pm
#6

lol did i say sign



First Mandalorian on Infinity
LordMarr
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:20 pm
#7

jedihunting will eventually be gone, i see it happening, its a series of steps to protect their investment. I think by pub 25 or probably before xmas, player hunting will be something of the past in this game.


And that is when i will decide whether to stay or not.
MadAdder3
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:21 pm
#8






LordMarr wrote:

jedihunting will eventually be gone, i see it happening, its a series of steps to protect their investment. I think by pub 25 or probably before xmas, player hunting will be something of the past in this game.






Heck no! That would stink hardcore.
SilverMamba
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:28 pm
#9

If player hunting is removed I will quit for sure. I like PVP and all but now it's all aobut gank squads again. Space is the only place real skill even remotely matters. The I win button is not gone it just changed to multiple I win buttons.



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Oikaleek
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:29 pm
#10






Romulus76 wrote:

1. BH aren't honorable, any BH that waits for you to be "ready" isn't a bounty hunter.


2. Throwing salt in the wound is not helping, people are pissed here and don't want to read your opinions.


3. If a Jedi is on the terminals it's his fault. The amount of BH's that came after him is irrelevant. Gank squads are irrelevant. The jedi got on the terminals, plain and simple. Jedi whined to get it changed.


I'm sick. Litterally. With SOE and with Jedi and I was a rank 3 enforcer preCU WITHOUT fight clubbing. Jedi whined to get permadeath removed. SOE obliged. Jedi whined to get a revamp. SOE obliged with a revamp that took 2 months and two full publishes to impliment. Jedi whined about skillbox loss, it was replaced with xp loss. Jedi whined about XP loss and SOE obliged with only losing XP to BH DB. Now it's gank squads they whine about and SOE obliges and SCREWS the game up even worse. Quit throwing salt in the wounds man. While you try to sound "serious" in your post, it's not going to serve to do anything but piss people off. Don't do. Refrain.


SOE thought this patch would ease the grief....it's going to do nothing but to bolster it.







Amen


The Jedi professionin the game (and I am pursuing one myself...because I can...just like everyone else) has destroyed this game for anyone that isn't a Jedi.


MadAdder3
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:31 pm
#11






Oikaleek wrote:





Romulus76 wrote:

1. BH aren't honorable, any BH that waits for you to be "ready" isn't a bounty hunter.


2. Throwing salt in the wound is not helping, people are pissed here and don't want to read your opinions.


3. If a Jedi is on the terminals it's his fault. The amount of BH's that came after him is irrelevant. Gank squads are irrelevant. The jedi got on the terminals, plain and simple. Jedi whined to get it changed.


I'm sick. Litterally. With SOE and with Jedi and I was a rank 3 enforcer preCU WITHOUT fight clubbing. Jedi whined to get permadeath removed. SOE obliged. Jedi whined to get a revamp. SOE obliged with a revamp that took 2 months and two full publishes to impliment. Jedi whined about skillbox loss, it was replaced with xp loss. Jedi whined about XP loss and SOE obliged with only losing XP to BH DB. Now it's gank squads they whine about and SOE obliges and SCREWS the game up even worse. Quit throwing salt in the wounds man. While you try to sound "serious" in your post, it's not going to serve to do anything but piss people off. Don't do. Refrain.


SOE thought this patch would ease the grief....it's going to do nothing but to bolster it.







Amen


The Jedi professionin the game (and I am pursuing one myself...because I can...just like everyone else) has destroyed this game for anyone that isn't a Jedi.







IMO SOE ruined the game by having Jedi in the first place. So why did I go Jedi? Because it's there. And the 2nd character slot is nice too. And the best reason of all? The extra UI colors of course!!!
JaxMeridian
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:41 pm
#12

Romulus76, I agree that the whole Jedi Hunting BH community has a real, legitemate gripe about pub. 20. This is a RPG game, and as such, one is supposed to try to suspend belief while in the game to get the realistic feeling. I'm 41 years old, so I've lived in the real world long enough to be over the name calling, childish crap that I see all too often in these boards. The reality of the game is that, if you suspend the belief as you're supposed to ( not talking about RPGing, just regular play) then you have to wonder: If I were a REAL Bounty Hunter in the Start Wars Universe, would I tkae a Bounty on an unknown Jedi? Would I take that Bounty not knowing what I'd be paid?


Lets compare: In this world, people work for a living, to put food on the table, to pay the rent or mortgage, to buy their kids braces, etc. I work ( for example) as a Developer and Computer Jockey for a company named Soni. Sony is a Video game Co., and makes on of the most popular games out there, called Bar Wars. I go in to work today, and my Boss says "Guess what, there's a new directive from the Big Boss. He said that, from now on, you have to work on the game not knowing the development you are trying to implement. Not only that, we're not gonna tell you where you find it, and we're gonna pay you 5 dollars an hour flat rate, you'll get a bonus, but you won't find out what it is till pay day of each week."


What do you think I'm gonna do?


Thats right, I'm gonna find another job and quit.


Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not a Jedi, I'm a Bounty Hunter. But I only hunt NPC's, and I may or may not change that. Also, I'm FS, and working on leveling for the village right now. But I can assure you of afew things: I will not be grinding AFK, I will not go to Kash to grind ( I hate that place !! Exceot for the Loot Quests, I have no business there.) I will not run from a BH EVER. And I'll take care not to get Vis till I finish my Template. If I do mess up, I won't blame anyone but myself. I like the BH profession. I know that there are those BH's that missuse the system, exploit, and grief other players. But the one thing I do not like about it is Jedi Hating.


It's no different than being prejudiced in real life. Hating anyone, ANYONE, for what they are is a losing proposition. If you wanna play the game, and you Hate Jedi ( like the Empire in the movies), you're taking realism too far. The Empire in the Movies is the Bad guy. It's supposed to be that way. The Jedi are the Good Guys in the movies, and that's what they're supposed to be. But this is the game, not the movies. I've played well with Jedi ( both light and dark), with Imperials, with neutrals, with all kinds of players and toon. Please try to realize... a player IS NOT their toon. You're hating Pixels and binary instances. Numbers and lines of programming.are your targets of unreasoning hatred, no matter what the player manipulating them has done.


For the sake of your ulcers and nerves; keep this seperate from your real life as much as possible. If, when you sit down at the keyboard, you are already mad, and intend to go kill some Jedi to releave strees? You're going too far.


Please take my advise. Calm down. Yeah, you pay for your account, but SOE own's the game. If they change it too much for you, then let them know it in the appropriate way. Give feed back. But don't let a video game give you so much hatred and tension.





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Rabekah
Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:59 am
#13





Mal Dagoth - lol you would think with all the Padawan that used to grind on quenkers that they would not team with the Jedi, guess it was a rebel at heart.




JaxMeridian wrote:

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not a Jedi, I'm a Bounty Hunter. But I only hunt NPC's, and I may or may not change that. Also, I'm FS, and working on leveling for the village right now. But I can assure you of afew things: I will not be grinding AFK, I will not go to Kash to grind ( I hate that place !! Exceot for the Loot Quests, I have no business there.) I will not run from a BH EVER. And I'll take care not to get Vis till I finish my Template. If I do mess up, I won't blame anyone but myself. I like the BH profession. I know that there are those BH's that missuse the system, exploit, and grief other players. But the one thing I do not like about it is Jedi Hating.








Well maybe the good side of Kask is it puts the over abundance of Jedi out of plain sight... but spots that people can't be attacked and afk grinders now thatare disgusting and need fixed quick. I say a terminal on Kash and seekers should work.


Jedi get no vis from grouped grinders. So can grind openly just having to watch for wandering Dantari/NS and other players etc.


When my alt made Jedi, she finished padawan trials grouped up - tef'd and started grinding, got a lot of boxes before a BH came for her - none in 1st week - maybe a bug or we now get a weeks leeway.


What ever I took the risk and decided I could grind much faster grouped onPicket missions with and area attack and Mdef tank helping. The last box she got was 3.2 million XP and took only 2 grind sessions of reseasonable duration all at key board on Dantoone. 80K Jedi a lair means only need a few to make up for a killing.


One day 3 BH killed her, but she made positive XP that day by getting back to the grind and doing it smart, area lighting to tag every Bol/Picket on lair then helping kill them to get the XP out.


1) Fix Kash bugs

2) Nerf Kask safety

3) Allow BH names and grouping with 1 mission allowed per master box the jedi has or something "considered"

4) Fix online bugs - might be a conversion touble of already on terminals Jedi? *shrug*


Also well you will find that when BH don't come for you as a Jedi it does get boring - you want them to come, not too much but maybe one in 2 or 4 hours would be good...


And lets hope we can all still have some great PvP fun,


come on terminal online status bug patch!

Message Edited by Rabekah on 07-20-2005 03:02 AM



Rabekah
Padawan
Rebel Colonel
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