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Thread: Question/suggestion for/from Real Bounty hunters.....(+Cloak+ related)

Daire_Courant
Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:09 am
#1

What Do you think a skill called Cloak is supposed to do?

a) It costs 3.2 million jedi xp, I think that translates into 18 million weapons xp(for normal rifle etc).
b) You have to invest 28 skill points just to achieve it.(+ 24 FS = 52)
c) You are not allowed to cloak within 20m of any PC/NPC/mob/vehicle
d) 15 sec cool-down on cloak.


So seriously what do you expect it should be?....to keep you warm on a cold Tatooine night?

The reason I ask this is that there are sooo many people/BH-wannabies that are complaining about this. Its sad that they are, I believe a good BH should be able to get around cloak easy. That goes under the assumption that he is fighting a normal/unskilled jedi. A competant jedi with cloak should stand an even change of getting away.

Try keep em constructive. I really do want to hear what you think the skill should be able to do. Considering you have to invest more killing/xp time to get cloak than to become a fully templated BH/etc


Daire.
youngling.

Message Edited by Daire_Courant on 07-09-2005 05:59 AM

REDLION78
Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:16 am
#2

As a post publish 20Master Bounty Hunter,I am planning toget Cloak to help kill Jedi. I hope they make it more effective...I have said this many times. It's gonna beone of thebest MBH weapons in my arsenal, If not the coolest.
Daire_Courant
Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:22 am
#3



REDLION78 wrote:
As a post publish 20 Master Bounty Hunter, I am planning to get Cloak to help kill Jedi. I hope they make it more effective...I have said this many times. It's gonna be one of the best MBH weapons in my arsenal, If not the coolest.





your probably right.....good way also to get that perfect first strike....just when they are on 500 health.

Daire.
youngling.
REDLION78
Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:31 am
#4

Well...I notice that whenJedi grind Lairs they almost alwaysuse force meditate to replenish their forcebefore moving on to the next Lair. This would be a great time to kick off an ambush. LOW FORCE + LOW HEALTH + CLOAKED MBH = DEAD JEDI...LOL
Duedroth
Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:39 am
#5



Daire_Courant wrote:
What Do you think a skill called Cloak is supposed to do?

a) It costs 3.2 million jedi xp, I think that translates into 18 million weapons xp(for normal rifle etc).
b) You have to invest 28 skill points just to achieve it.
c) You are not allowed to cloak within 20m of any PC/NPC/mob/vehicle
d) 15 sec cool-down on cloak.


So seriously what do you expect it should be?....to keep you warm on a cold Tatooine night?

The reason I ask this is that there are sooo many people/BH-wannabies that are complaining about this. Its sad that they are, I believe a good BH should be able to get around cloak easy. That goes under the assumption that he is fighting a normal/unskilled jedi. A competant jedi with cloak should stand an even change of getting away.

Try keep em constructive. I really do want to hear what you think the skill should be able to do. Considering you have to invest more killing/xp time to get cloak than to become a fully templated BH/etc


Daire.
youngling.



when talking about any single Jedi skill in the 4th box of any given branch, you should really say it costs 58 skill points to get instead of simply 28. I think it's more fair to factor in the obligatory force sensitive skill points.



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CivicBountyHunter
Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:00 am
#6

The main gripe I have with cloak is the fact that is just about a 100% no questions asked way to leave a fight. I realize you must be 20m from the attacker and/or any other NPC/PC, however with lag the way it is, you can get 20m away from me before you even start to move on my screen, easily. And this is server side lag, not on my end of things.


IMO put it in MPowers, so 'dablers' dont have access to it. Or make it so a blind state can prevent cloak (give clear blind state to the jedi in the same box that grants cloak).


Same style thread started a few days ago, I suguested the same stuff....and all I got was a 'it is fine as is' from any jedi responses...I have a gulidie with cloak, I KNOW how powerfull/easy it is use.




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FettandhisVett
Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:04 am
#7

As with anything that jedi have thats overpowered...


Jedi response is: "Its fine, quit whining you respec. And nerf this guy that managed to kill me, im supposed to be invincible"
Daire_Courant
Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:00 am
#8



FettandhisVett wrote:
As with anything that jedi have thats overpowered...
Jedi response is: "Its fine, quit whining you respec. And nerf this guy that managed to kill me, im supposed to be invincible"






aye something similar to this is the Cm paralyze or the smuggler concussion but the shoe is on the other foot.

I think it might be for the better when pub 20 comes.....the whole non-personal thing might be good to tune down the rethoric

daire
youngling
Bree-Chay
Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:17 am
#9



Daire_Courant wrote:
What Do you think a skill called Cloak is supposed to do?

a) It costs 3.2 million jedi xp, I think that translates into 18 million weapons xp(for normal rifle etc).
b) You have to invest 28 skill points just to achieve it.(+ 24 FS = 52)
c) You are not allowed to cloak within 20m of any PC/NPC/mob/vehicle
d) 15 sec cool-down on cloak.


So seriously what do you expect it should be?....to keep you warm on a cold Tatooine night?

The reason I ask this is that there are sooo many people/BH-wannabies that are complaining about this. Its sad that they are, I believe a good BH should be able to get around cloak easy. That goes under the assumption that he is fighting a normal/unskilled jedi. A competant jedi with cloak should stand an even change of getting away.

Try keep em constructive. I really do want to hear what you think the skill should be able to do. Considering you have to invest more killing/xp time to get cloak than to become a fully templated BH/etc


Daire.
youngling.

Message Edited by Daire_Courant on 07-09-2005 05:59 AM



I think its supposed to do exactly what it does it do - it cloaks you, or turns you invisible. Some people call it over powered, but it has no real power whatsoever. Wow, you can get 1 hit in before it releases itself, and with being targetable while its on, that hit doesn't come as much as a surprise to someone who sees you disappear. OK, so you can run away from a fight when you're about to lose - big deal. 1 on 1 its not hard to do that, but when you're fighting 2 or 3 people getting out of range is difficult to do. The skill does exactly what its supposed to and moving it to a master box to 'hurt dabblers' offends me, as I'm a pure dabbler. The lower force max/regen and lower skill mods 'hurts' me enough as is, It shouldn't be a requirement to be Master anything in this game. (The upcoming change to be MBH to hunt players bothers me too, Investigation 4 makes sense to me and always has).



Bree-Chay
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