Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: 1 Bounty Hunter vs. Me?: The Views of a Jedi
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Schnoob
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:28 am
#1
So some of the new patch notes have pleased the low level Jedi. No names, similar prices and such, and more importantly, 1 on 1.
Tbh I don't think this is fair. For a Knight such as myself, we know we can kill a bh alone, unless the Jedi is unskilled or the BH is very skilled then it shouldn't be too difficult, even if they had doc/cm. I haven't had a BH in ages, and when one over confident noob bh who thinks he can kill anyone shows up, it disapoints me to send them to the cloner, because he never stood a chance.
I think there should be a way for us to gain different visibility, and get our names on the terms. Here's a quick solution.
Kill a Bounty Hunter - Assassinate a Jedi
Ok, so a BH takes a mission and proceeds to attack the Jedi. Whithin 2 minutes the BH is clicking the clone button.
30 minutes Later, another BH shows up for the same Jedi. He wins again.
Each time a BH is killed by that a new form of visibility should be created as word of this killing machine gets around. I'm sure you all know the mission title A Jedi Assassin, then these missions should display the name of the Jedi, so the 5 Bounty Hunters can group and stand a much better chance vs the Jedi. This could hardly be any harm to low level Jedi, if they can kill 1 BH there's a chance they can kill multiple, and it could add a certain amount of roleplay, and give the real assassin's their job back.
Missions with this title should have a substantially higher reward, similar to the current prices a full template is worth. This would be enough to cover the threat level of the mission. It would also mean that if BH do group, they would get the similar amount of cash they do from the normal missions, only with less xp.
Once at this level, the Jedi would stay there until they are killed, just like they do currently, but maybe a slight price increase for each BH they kill, which I beleive they are adding in anyway.
Unfortunately, there is no information on the new FRS and how it will effect the new Bounty Hunter changes, but this is the idea I have for the current changes being made. Please comment in a friendly and orderly manner, perhaps Jedi and BH can work together to make the confrontations more fun
Tbh I don't think this is fair. For a Knight such as myself, we know we can kill a bh alone, unless the Jedi is unskilled or the BH is very skilled then it shouldn't be too difficult, even if they had doc/cm. I haven't had a BH in ages, and when one over confident noob bh who thinks he can kill anyone shows up, it disapoints me to send them to the cloner, because he never stood a chance.
I think there should be a way for us to gain different visibility, and get our names on the terms. Here's a quick solution.
Kill a Bounty Hunter - Assassinate a Jedi
Ok, so a BH takes a mission and proceeds to attack the Jedi. Whithin 2 minutes the BH is clicking the clone button.
30 minutes Later, another BH shows up for the same Jedi. He wins again.
Each time a BH is killed by that a new form of visibility should be created as word of this killing machine gets around. I'm sure you all know the mission title A Jedi Assassin, then these missions should display the name of the Jedi, so the 5 Bounty Hunters can group and stand a much better chance vs the Jedi. This could hardly be any harm to low level Jedi, if they can kill 1 BH there's a chance they can kill multiple, and it could add a certain amount of roleplay, and give the real assassin's their job back.
Missions with this title should have a substantially higher reward, similar to the current prices a full template is worth. This would be enough to cover the threat level of the mission. It would also mean that if BH do group, they would get the similar amount of cash they do from the normal missions, only with less xp.
Once at this level, the Jedi would stay there until they are killed, just like they do currently, but maybe a slight price increase for each BH they kill, which I beleive they are adding in anyway.
Unfortunately, there is no information on the new FRS and how it will effect the new Bounty Hunter changes, but this is the idea I have for the current changes being made. Please comment in a friendly and orderly manner, perhaps Jedi and BH can work together to make the confrontations more fun
Domonique
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:40 am
#2
i went hunting today and realized
most templates that aren't at least 200k are entirley too weak to fight bhs
and the ones that are 200k+ if they know what they are doing
are normally entirley too strong
the way i look at it, is now jedis can grind (afk if they'd like) on kashykk
and full templates virtually have nothing to worry about as long as they have descent pvp tactics
i like your idea
but i'm coming to the reality that the devs are going to do what they plan on doing
and do whatever pleases the majority of the jedi population
this issue of griefing could have easily been solved if they had just removed the jedis mission after he or she had been killed
or killed the bhs
but of course things are done the rough way 
hopefully something saves us
Schnoob
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:50 am
#3
True, but part of the Jedi Code is There is Hope
And I'm not posting this on the Jedi forums, they whine enough as it is.
And I'm not posting this on the Jedi forums, they whine enough as it is.
Kaldran
Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:08 am
#4
I totally agree with you, and I just wish there were a few more jedi capable of seeing the bigger picture like you. From my own experiences vs full temp, the only way a BH can win is if they catch the jedi with his pants down (ie already low on health and force, or afk, etc), but if they are in an even slightly prepared state, I get pasted. I have solo'd up to 200k with a some success, but have yet to manage a 200k+ on my own. I have come close here and there, but always end up at the cloner. If you full temp guys are to be given any challenge, something like the system you have suggested must be put in place.
Schnoob
Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:13 am
#5
Yep, the low level Jedi think they won, but now us high levels have even less content.
If we take part in GCW, we get flamed.
Our FRS has been taken away and still no sign of it.
As soon as a BH sees the lvl 80 circle I wouldnt blame them if they ran
God damn you SOE! I'll just have to walk around even more now
If we take part in GCW, we get flamed.
Our FRS has been taken away and still no sign of it.
As soon as a BH sees the lvl 80 circle I wouldnt blame them if they ran
God damn you SOE! I'll just have to walk around even more now
Kaldran
Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:22 am
#6
Schnoob wrote:
Yep, the low level Jedi think they won, but now us high levels have even less content.
If we take part in GCW, we get flamed.
Our FRS has been taken away and still no sign of it.
As soon as a BH sees the lvl 80 circle I wouldnt blame them if they ran
God damn you SOE! I'll just have to walk around even more now
Yep. To be honest, one of the reasons that I have not gone down the jedi path myself is the apparant lack of challenge. I mean, I have been playing this game for 1.5yrs, and went glowy as soon as they into'd the system. I have unlocked u few of the FS skill trees just for something new to do, but currently have no urge to be a jedi. When jedi were first intro'd to SWG, I though it sounded pretty tempting: a tough unlock, difficult grind, getting hunted, contant PvP, permadeath, etc. If the system was still as challenging as that, I would be tempted cos it would just be fun to try and survive as far as knight, let alone making it to master. But with things as they are, there is little enough challenge in the unlock and grind, and once u r a knight, u have nothing at all to fear.
The subsequent problem is knights get bored, and everybody else gets sick of seeing fearless knights dueling in spaceports, etc. Basically, nobody wins
neelong
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:22 pm
#8
SOE will not listen to the BH forum on this issue. They have their minds made up and its going to be how they see fit. No posting, no amount of screaming, no amount of rational conversation will it changed. Its just the way of things and hopefully it wont be too difficult once they put in the changes. But I see a lot of BH's dropping, a lot of people becoming Knights and a lot of other peope quiting because the GCW is run but Knights. No one will go overt except for Knights and the few remaining people will leave
I mean if everyone becomes a knight .. who is going to make armor, weapons, clothing, foods and all that stuff? When everyone is a Jedi and the economy is crap and the only people that put out stuff is the Knight with the alt chef whos vendor is only stocked 3 days a week where will the game be then?
I honestly think SOE makes the wrong decision in almost every turn they take. I honestly dont know how a company can make so many mistakes and expect people to continue playing.. it bewilders me.
Schnoob
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:28 pm
#9
You are wrong, not everyone wil become Jedi. I am the only Jedi in my guild, and it will stay that way, as well as the non Jedi guilds who have stayed with such status for months.
I dont know how people get this into their heads, there will always be non Jedi. and SOE do listen to forums, have you not read the patch notes?
SOE do read, jsut becuase they dont add everything you want them to add, doesnt mean they do nothing. Your post looks more welcome on the Jedi forums, where people whine about the amount of Jedi. Get used to it, this was a discussion thread, not a 'Everyone will be a Jedi in 2 months' thread.
KTHXBYE
I dont know how people get this into their heads, there will always be non Jedi. and SOE do listen to forums, have you not read the patch notes?
Group members will no longer grant a Jedi visibilty.
SOE do read, jsut becuase they dont add everything you want them to add, doesnt mean they do nothing. Your post looks more welcome on the Jedi forums, where people whine about the amount of Jedi. Get used to it, this was a discussion thread, not a 'Everyone will be a Jedi in 2 months' thread.
KTHXBYE
Message Edited by Schnoob on 07-07-2005 11:28 PM
PantherXVI
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:31 pm
#10
Schnoob wrote:
People Sure are quiet on this forum
Probably because you thought of a good idea and can't be flamed for it. I think its a pretty sweet idea, especially if I took down the Jedi Assassian. All the more cash for me
Schnoob
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:35 pm
#11
PantherXVI wrote:
Schnoob wrote:
People Sure are quiet on this forum
Probably because you thought of a good idea and can't be flamed for it. I think its a pretty sweet idea, especially if I took down the Jedi Assassian. All the more cash for me
Now this is a post I like, someone giving a good comment and feedback. Not pulling out the flame rifle with a 6 post radius.
PantherXVI
Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:36 pm
#12
Schnoob wrote:
PantherXVI wrote:
Schnoob wrote:
People Sure are quiet on this forum
Probably because you thought of a good idea and can't be flamed for it. I think its a pretty sweet idea, especially if I took down the Jedi Assassian. All the more cash for me
Now this is a post I like, someone giving a good comment and feedback. Not pulling out the flame rifle with a 6 post radius.
I only pull a flame rifle out if the people are stupid and I feel the need to spend the time flaming them.
Anaalin
Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:44 pm
#13
Schnoob wrote:
So some of the new patch notes have pleased the low level Jedi. No names, similar prices and such, and more importantly, 1 on 1.
blah blah
Kill a Bounty Hunter - Assassinate a Jedi
blah blah, what he said...
Actually, that's a pretty nifty idea, to a point.
The only thing is, there are some low level paddies smart enough to keep one of their main professions. Like me. I kept MRifles, then first thing I did was train up 2xxx healer.
So anything short of a full template MBH holds very little danger to me, and even the full templates need to know what they are doing. A respec with little pvp experience will prolly die, too, or one that isn't prepared fully.
In fact, I am 3-1 vs BH and only a 68k Paddy.
But the point is, although I can likely outlast the one vs one BHs most of the time, there is no way I can outlast 2 or more.
So in your scenario, after I killed the first 3, I would have had a gank squad after me.
hrm....
well, as I typed that, though, it don't sound like that would be game breaking for the smart paddies. Especially with the group vis removed.
Hmm...
Ok, nevermind, I withdraw my objection
Message Edited by Anaalin on 07-07-2005 04:45 PM
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