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Thread: Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?
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Hasun
Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:52 am
#1
This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.
Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.
I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.
If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.
What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like
- Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms
- Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names
- None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP
All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.
ShaikeRamjet
Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:02 am
#2
Well...
FaceInTheCrowd
Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:23 am
#3
Infinite seeker droid was fixed because Blix was finally told about it. This bug had been around for 23 months. It benefited us, but the DE profession hated it. This was a fair change. We also get more droids per crate and more charges per droid. This is a good change for us. Blix has apparently been cleaning up some things while he was changing the Jedi missions and bh mission difficulty level.
Adding good loot tomaster level is something I really like.While it's true that smugglers still get nothing, we've hadvery little dropfrom master level marks for 2 years (at one point we were getting feed mechs and capacitors frequentl, but eventually that stuff rarely dropped). Pre-publish 21: Ooooh, 518 credits that makes it so worthwhile. Post-publish 21: Wow, that mark had 35k health, took 5 minutes to kill,and dropped a bounty hunter armor schem, a mandalorian intraframe, and 1021 credits. Kind of makes me want to hunt some NPC's. It's about time the master level NPC missions were made fun and challenging.
Quiet420
Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:34 am
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Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?
because smugglers have last ditch and are unwilling to give it up.
the BH's are a little different, when the subject of the changes to the missions came up, several reasonable voices chimed in after recognizing the need for change....those that were countering the arguement, for the most part, ended up being proof that the system needed to change.
when smugglers are willing to give up 1hit incaps (which should be prettysoon) they'll get the code that is already in development 
niticra
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:12 am
#5
Why would we want to give up Last Ditch?And if the Devs would want to change Last Ditch they would just go ahead and do that, they don't really seem to care what anyone exceptjedi want. I'm not sure the even have something for Smugglers in development.
Quiet420
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:36 am
#6
niticra wrote:
Why would we want to give up Last Ditch?
because if you insist on smearing jedi left and right because your miserable (which yall spend more time doing then talking about your own profession) you should recognize that as your saying Jedi are unbalanced, that you have a skill that rarely works when used as intended and in fact, is only useful when abused....thus, it would be benefit your community of smugglers to get rid of it and get something that is actually useful.
SioBabble
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:37 am
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niticra wrote:
Why would we want to give up Last Ditch?And if the Devs would want to change Last Ditch they would just go ahead and do that, they don't really seem to care what anyone exceptjedi want. I'm not sure the even have something for Smugglers in development.
Um...
Last Ditch has been changed, you know, so it really is a "last ditch" move. You cannot spam it. It wipes out your entire mind pool when you use it, and it's only useful when your health is down to next to nothing.
I dropped smuggler in disgust over the total phoniness of the "Smuggler Revamp"; it is painfully obvious that the devs have no plan to deal with smuggler, only as set of concepts they are unwilling to write the code for. Turning the new slicing components into loot drops and eliminating the first attempt at a solid risk/reward system for the consumer of a sliced weapon made the decision easy.
I agree that the developers only seem to care about Jedi, and that's because the only thing SOE/LA marketing cares about is Jedi. Every other profession (with the possible exception of BH, the "natural enemy" of Jedi) is for the most part ignored. Just ask the BEs, DEs, and Tailors out there. Not to mention the Pikemen.
Message Edited by SioBabble on 07-23-2005 09:39 AM
Vanin-Trf
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:42 am
#8
Thats a jedi for you cry nerf on every skill that can kill them yet they dont mind being able to hit for 2k dam every 3 secs, i say we nerf Jedi lightsabers and bring the dam back down some. I mean come on 2k dam in one hit? heck with lastditch you have to bealmost dead for it to do anything and thats if it dont miss. So any jedi that think last ditch needs to be nerf can well you know *gulp gulp* me,
Message Edited by Vanin-Trf on 07-23-2005 09:43 AM
RebRifle
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:49 am
#9
Well when ya think this mission revamp is gonna take alot of thought, they said if they fail enough a bh is gonna go after him, they have to figure out the obsticales not just a delivery mission. Its a difficult thing to do and to make it fair, esepcally the pvp. Us all they had to do is jack up the lvl on our marks past 75 and randomly generate a elite mark every now and then.
Quiet420
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:54 am
#10
and that, folks, is why you (smugglers) get squat
Vanin-Trf wrote:
So any jedi that think last ditch needs to be nerf can well you know *gulp gulp* me,
Message Edited by Quiet420 on 07-23-2005 12:55 PM
Chemistrius
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:55 am
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You know, its not smugglers doing that to jedi, its Bounty Hunters.
Would you even give a crap about LD if nobody could use it on you?
Oh and just FYI, next time you see someone slap a stormtrooper and start walking your way, try actually doing something rather than stand there like a deer caught in the headlights.
Pop a synthsteak, use AI, Forcerun away, Cloak...Don't just stand there and act like a baby seal preparing to be clubbed.
Would you even give a crap about LD if nobody could use it on you?
Oh and just FYI, next time you see someone slap a stormtrooper and start walking your way, try actually doing something rather than stand there like a deer caught in the headlights.
Pop a synthsteak, use AI, Forcerun away, Cloak...Don't just stand there and act like a baby seal preparing to be clubbed.
SpunkyKuma
Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:58 am
#12
Lastditch is actually horrible against most Jedi, but against non Jedi it's fairly decent except vs a TKM. I have used lastditch on a few marks in the past couple days, either forcearmor, defender or aura lowered the damage drastically, I dished out 5100+ dmg on one and only did 1900 damage at the highest which was far from incapping him and I died right after that.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
Vanin-Trf
Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:03 am
#13
Thats why smugglers get nothing? Umm with all the whining jedi do why the heck are they getting anything? I also noticed you had nothing to say about the LS dam you jedi do now 2k every 3 secs? You dont mind that because it helps you but anyting that dont help you cry nerf on. So once again *gulp gulp* me.
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