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Thread: The Dilemna: Root (Pistols 0404) or Healing (CM 4000)?

Aanu
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:13 am
#1

So with what looks like improvments to CM 4000 templates the nagging question for MBH, MR, Pistols 0404 like myself is, should I give up Improved stopping shot and accuracy for CM 4000. That is, drop the pistols and move to MBH, MR, CM 4000.

I've always been all offense and moving to CM 4000 in my mind is moving towards more defense. If the Jedi heal nerf is significant enough, using just Ruby (I dont use any other drinks) and my Stim Ds, may be enough to outlast the Jedi.

Anyone else facing or have faced the same question?

Message Edited by Aanu on 06-22-2005 12:13 PM



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LuxDiazepam
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:19 am
#2

Go CM 0400 for DOTs, then you're still offensive! (you also get to use a few heal abilities from novice too)



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Dallow
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:21 am
#3

I'm facing the same question but one step further back. I'm currently MBH/MP/Carbs4400 wondering if I should use my token to go MBH/MR/CM4000 or MBH/MR/Pistols0404. I really like the pistoleer specials (root, warning, and disarming), but I'm wondering if MR/CM willbe the way to go.



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Torqued
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:26 am
#4


I'm in the same boat as you. I had MBH/MCarbines/0-4-0-4 Pistoleer. Was pretty cool. Good defense, awsome accuracy and Stopping shot.


I used my token respec to try out MBH/MC/4-0-0-0 CM. The heals are nice but, I really miss stopping shot..lol. Defenses drop quite a bittoo.


So I guess its either A) have more defenses and take a little less damage or B) have CM and be able to heal the increased damage you take. Kinda balances out if you think about it.


I'm kinda waiting till the next publish because of the medic prof changes to see if CM is worth keeping. I'm still heavily considering going back to 0-4-0-4 Pistoleer though.







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jason67
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:33 am
#5

I'm actually considering going from 4004 pistols to Doc xxx4, which would give me the speed buff . I'm hoping this would increase my DPS enough to make it easier to beat out their healing especially if their healing is getting nerfed.





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Imed
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:39 am
#6

im MBH/MR/0404 pistols and I'll stick with the extra accuracy and damage. And do yourself a favor and try this, especially in some group pvp battles, improved fan shot with a trandoshan hunting rifle!
Eleutherios
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:41 am
#7

The healing really helps. With the root, you're banking everything on taking the guy out right from the start... but if he has uber-healing and/or a holocron, you'll be in big trouble. Getting the healing tree of CM is insurance, in case he heals away every point of damage you did to him while rooted (which is very, very likely.)


It also allows you to solo a lot of the high-end content, and you're invaluable in group PvP with your Bacta Spray.



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Torqued
Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:54 am
#8


Eleutherios----"The healing really helps. With the root, you're banking everything on taking the guy out right from the start... but if he has uber-healing and/or a holocron, you'll be in big trouble. Getting the healing tree of CM is insurance, in case he heals away every point of damage you did to him while rooted (which is very, very likely.)"


(not sure how to quote...lol )



Quite true. Unless you are catching them at just the right time like, as they are dueling, grinding and are close to death, they will most likely heal every bit of damage you hit them with and come running for you.


As I said I think I'm gonna hold on to 4-0-0-0 CM and see how the changes help.





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Aanu
Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:04 am
#9



Dallow wrote:
I'm facing the same question but one step further back. I'm currently MBH/MP/Carbs4400 wondering if I should use my token to go MBH/MR/CM4000 or MBH/MR/Pistols0404. I really like the pistoleer specials (root, warning, and disarming), but I'm wondering if MR/CM will be the way to go.





Either way you go i would suggest NOT using a Respec Token for combat skills. Go to Dant MO and hook up with a hunting group. You can get 1 mil weapons XP easy in a hour and half or less. Medic skills on the other hand are slow to get, so I would only use my token for those.



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Torqued
Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:21 am
#10


Oh yea, combat profs are soooo easy to build now. I changed a complete combat prof in 1 day!! Went to the MO as a full template. Wanted to try something out. Went from MBH/ MCarbs/ 4-0-0-0 CM at noon to MBH/ MRifles /4-0-0-0 CM at midnight that night.


Its unreal how much xp you can get in a good group. It was broken up. I didnt play all day. Couple hrs here, couple hrs there. A total of like 7 or 8 hrs. I don't usually have that much time to play but, Im laid off right now so, I've been a SWG junkie for a few days....







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Dallow
Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:09 pm
#11






Aanu wrote:





Dallow wrote:
I'm facing the same question but one step further back. I'm currently MBH/MP/Carbs4400 wondering if I should use my token to go MBH/MR/CM4000 or MBH/MR/Pistols0404. I really like the pistoleer specials (root, warning, and disarming), but I'm wondering if MR/CM will be the way to go.







Either way you go i would suggest NOT using a Respec Token for combat skills. Go to Dant MO and hook up with a hunting group. You can get 1 mil weapons XP easy in a hour and half or less. Medic skills on the other hand are slow to get, so I would only use my token for those.




Wow! Thank you for that tip!



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SaleusCorwen
Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:26 pm
#12

i have been struggling with this delimma too..


i was also thinking of even going on full



MBH/MCM or more MBH/MDoc



has anyone tried the MBH/MDoc before? is it even viable in combat?



it would be really hard to give up the MCarbines to go for MDoc but something i've considered..





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Domonique
Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:33 pm
#13

the descion is so hard, well guys i can probably help you out more than anyone because i'm a mbh / mcm and i do all my hunting with a 0404 pistols person



now this guy depends on me because of my paralyze (for when he gets kd bugged or rooted) and my snare (makes jedis superrr slow) also the dots are nice


and the other cm debuffs, all very nice addtions to the dmg output that a 0404/mbh/mc puts out, makes it very easy to kill full templates (and also annoys the living hell out of them)



but.....


to be perfectly honest guys, this template doesn't put out much damage at all, if you plan on soloing high level jedis the best template is going to be 0404 pistols


the and because of the new publish this will be a better build than ever, the reason why is, is if you get a really nice carbine you'll be doing 12-13 hundred damage shots (and even more on criticals) on master defenders you will probably do about 600-700 damage a hit


now my friend who has this build can take out 200k jedis, the only reason he can't take out full templates is simply because they heal way too fast and he has no healing at all, but now with timers on the healing it will be better than ever


spamming disarm / root on a jedi is going to be devistating for them, as taking lots of damage is now a big deal


so basically if you plan on going solo disarm and root as just way too necessary


as a cm yes you can heal and yes the heals will be improved, but healing yourself the entire fight isn't going to kill a jedi


(and yes you will be healing yourself because even as you kite jedis they will be constantly spamming saber throw)


and without disarm.... killing a jedi thats constantly dps'ing you is going to be hard as hell


so my suggestion is... get disarm and root





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