Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: THE solution to 5 Bounty Hunter vs. 1 Jedi...
assassin-sk wrote:
i think its fine the way it is, if jedi are so high and mighty, while we are only small little bounty hunters, it should take five of us to take one, and i think its even better when i kill a jedi, and i bow and smile to each of his or hers group members
i'm finding it funny lately how the ones who always seem to know everything are the ones who have only had a registered account for a month or less. Coincidence? I hope so. But back on topic, yes jedi should require 5 BH to take one on, but does it? No. I'm not complaining just educating you a bit. And I know first hand on how both Jedi and BH work. I was a MBH almost since I started playing this game, and am probably going to do the grind again on an alt because I miss it too much. Pre-CU, a Jedi actually was a challenge mostly due to their damage output.
Having a 'lightsaber' damage all their own was overwhelming at times, but not impossible to get past if you knew what you were doing. Post-CU, their damage just doesn't cut it. Publish 19 has made their damage output a bit better, but is still not up to par. The thing a jedi had going for them was their healing, but that I suppose is now a thing of the past.
I'll just end saying this.. the 5v1 thing won't be around for ever as the original poster already stated. In fact it is to be made into a 1v1 more than likely. His suggestion is very comendable to be coming from a Jedi. Still allowing numerous BH to take a mission, just so long as their group can attack in turn. I'll agree, it does look ridiculous having one of your group members attacked and not be able to do anything about it except for stand around gawking at him. Very good idea indeed. 
It's a nice alternative to them simply making it 1v1. I mean... come one, when a bounty is placed on a person I'm sure more than 1 bounty hunter decides to seek out that bounty.
xLateralusx wrote:
assassin-sk wrote:
i think its fine the way it is, if jedi are so high and mighty, while we are only small little bounty hunters, it should take five of us to take one, and i think its even better when i kill a jedi, and i bow and smile to each of his or hers group members
i'm finding it funny lately how the ones who always seem to know everything are the ones who have only had a registered account for a month or less. Coincidence? I hope so. But back on topic, yes jedi should require 5 BH to take one on, but does it? No. I'm not complaining just educating you a bit. And I know first hand on how both Jedi and BH work. I was a MBH almost since I started playing this game, and am probably going to do the grind again on an alt because I miss it too much. Pre-CU, a Jedi actually was a challenge mostly due to their damage output.Having a 'lightsaber' damage all their own was overwhelming at times, but not impossible to get past if you knew what you were doing. Post-CU, their damage just doesn't cut it. Publish 19 has made their damage output a bit better, but is still not up to par. The thing a jedi had going for them was their healing, but that I suppose is now a thing of the past.
I'll just end saying this.. the 5v1 thing won't be around for ever as the original poster already stated. In fact it is to be made into a 1v1 more than likely. His suggestion is very comendable to be coming from a Jedi. Still allowing numerous BH to take a mission, just so long as their group can attack in turn. I'll agree, it does look ridiculous having one of your group members attacked and not be able to do anything about it except for stand around gawking at him. Very good idea indeed.
Ummm, OP here, I am, and have been a MBH since 02/15/03.
I have never, nor will I ever be a Jedi. YES, this FAIR suggestion came from a MBH.
I would like to see the Devs implement an improvement on the existing "assist ability". Here is what I mean:
A Jedi is in a grinding group of other 5 players (Jedi included equals a 6 player group). 2 Bounty Hunters BOTH with the Jedi mission show up. The first Bounty Hunter starts to attack...it is currently 1 vs. 1...however, as SOON as *(yet NOT UNTIL) the second Bounty Hunter starts to attack, the Jedi may now receive assitance from the FIRST player in his/her group to attack EITHER of the Bounty Hunters. The other 4 members of the group are still "locked out".
The only problem I can see is when a 3rd Bounty Hunter MAY show up (ungrouped) solo (usually me) and starts attacking. Does this mean that the next member of the Jedi group to first attack ANY of the Bounty Hunters can enter into the fight? If so, is that fair to the Boutny Hunter trying to hunt solo? Then again, maybe if it's seen, then the solo Bounty Hunter should not start combat until the other, grouped Jedi either DB, or are killed themselves. Would this lead to DB stealing?
If 3 Bounty Hunters find an ungrouped Jedi, then obviously there would have to be some kind of "invite/join" lock out to prevent the "changing of stronger players" to assist. This Jedi would simply have to take all 3 Bounty Hunter on at the same time.
Although it's not perfect...I think it's a start, and it MAY stimulate the whole "Jedi Master / Padawan learner" content the Jedi community has been talking about.
The system simply has to recognize the source of the damage to allow other memebers of the same group to "assist".
Although not directly stated...when the FRS does come back to live, it is assumed that FRS Jedi will be stronger then the strongest Jedi we currently see on the servers. I believe going to a 1 vs 1 lockout system will render many Jedi impossible. This bothers me. Only because it is the system that BOTH allows me to take their mission blindly (givent he Dev wish list of name and reward removal), yet prevents me from killing my mark due to the 1 vs 1 lockout.
If a BH brings 2 other BHs to party....the Jedi should be allowed to bring 2 more as well.....and in the end....it's STILL 1 vs 1. It's just a matter of who the Jedi hangs out with.
Ideas? Comments?
Message Edited by Tucheck on 07-01-2005 03:31 PM
assassin-sk wrote:
i think its fine the way it is, if jedi are so high and mighty, while we are only small little bounty hunters, it should take five of us to take one, and i think its even better when i kill a jedi, and i bow and smile to each of his or hers group members
I'll disagree and say two things:
First, it has awlays looked "stupid" to see 3 BHs attacking a Jedi who has 4 friends in the group just staring at them.
Second, I believe, right or wrong, that THIS proposal this alot better (and balanced) then what the Devs are "wishing for". Like it or not, the 5 vs. 1 will not be around any longer then it takes the Devs to implented the 1 vs 1. I simply think...THIS looks more fair.
novakaine wrote:
Why make it easier on jedi? Dont they have it easy enough? 1 vs 1 is really 1 vs 1.5 or greater.
Grinding Jedi DO have it easy....way TOO easy. Given the LOS and TEF exploits, yes, they are making Jedi look more like a "joke profession". So I'm trying to look past that, I want to focus on the Jedi of tomorrow. The ones we CAN'T stop today, will be the ones we face in the future. Now if your unaware of the Devs (intentions with BH missions) "wish list", that's fine. PLEASE go find it and read it, educate yourself about the future of this profession. However, which do you think it going to be EVEN easier for the Jedi we can't stop today....becoming a FRS Jedi that can only be attacked by 1 BH at a time....or the above?