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Thread: Issue: Old(Pre-CU) BH armor needs a conversion option to the new(on TC) BH schems
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Everitt_Cage
Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:36 am
#1
I think it is great that BH armor will now be lootable(in schem form) and craftable by AS's meaning it can have viable resists, as well as color options. But there is a problem for the people who spend lots of time looting BH armor pre-CU, and here is how:
Having spent countless(and I mean that literaly) hours looting my two full suits of BH armor, I think its fairly obvious that pre-CU BH armorneeds to begiven some kind of conversion option to these new BH armor schems, like it was to thecurrent BH armorthat could only be used in the crafting of Mando. I want to have BH armor with good stats w/out having to do that insane lootfest again or spend my money to buy other people's loots. I've done the work already, as have lots of other people, so the Devs need to make sure they give us a chance to convert our existing BH armor to the new schems.
Now, in another pose, someone tried to counter my above comments with the following reasoning(summarized): Pre-CU BH armor always sucked, and everyone knew that before even going out and looting it, which meant its only purpose was for show, or to make Mando. They said just because this new BH armor was comming out(which will be for actual use), doesnt mean I should be able to convert my old BH armor into the new kind, as I never had the intention of wearing it in combat, as I knew it's stats sucked before I even looted it, and knew then that it could only be used for show or for Mando. The following was my response to that attempted counter:
"Wrong. I wanted it to actualy USE it. See, back when I looted my two suits, LSs did LS damage, which no armor had resists to, which meant I could actualy USE my BH armor while hunting Jedi, as the HAM was so low I could put an entire suit on unbuffed w/ hardly any negative effects, and as it had no LS resists its condition wasnt damaged when a Jedi hit me. Now BHs have to use armor, and as my BH armor's condition/resistsare so low I cant use it hunting Jedi anymore. Thats where this new BH armor comes in. It will have higher resists/condition which means BH armor will once again be able to be used in hunting, HOWEVER, I already spent all that time looting my two suit. So, basicaly, your wrong. I DIDNT loot two suits to show off as you suggest in your post, but I looted it to USE. That is why I should have an option to convert my BH armor to the new schems that are comming out, so I can USE it again in hunting Jedi. I've already done the work for my BH armor, hopefully the Devs will recognize this."
Anyway, I think you can see the point. I have no problem with other people being able to get wearable BH armor, meaning mine wont be as rare as it is right now. Good for them! The point is, myself and others already did the work for our BH armor, which I actualy USED, so we should have an option to convert it to these new schems so we can continue to use it. If you dont have any BH armor, well do the work it takes to loot it and get some. I've already done the work, so the Devs need to add the option to convert so that my work isnt useless(as it currently is, since I cant use my BH armor for hunting anymore)
Cloake
Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:50 am
#2
Umm, cant you convert it to nonwearable and use that to make mandalorian.. useless huh? I think not. You have the ability to turn it into a component for Mandalorian armor and the ppl who loot em from BH marks will not have that option. You may think its useless but for those out there trying to get the components for mandalorian armor we envy you. I will if i ever want to get mandalorian have to do camp blacksuns kill over 300+ of them to get my full suit. I'm just trying to make the arguement that its not useless alot of ppl want mandalorian armor and you are way closer then most since you have the ability to convert it over to the nonwearable component for it. I dont care if you dont want mandalorian armor but the fact that it can be used for it makes it a usefull and very valuable item. Anyways just my opinion, Thx.
-Cloake
Everitt_Cage
Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:42 pm
#3
I suppose that is a 'solution'. But by that same logic they shouldnt have added an option to the pre-CU looted BH to convert to the non equipable post-CU kind that can only be use for crafting Mando, they should have just left it up to players to find someone who had the kind they wanted, and wanted they kind the had, and trade.
But, you say, pre-CU BH armor was able to be both worn and made into Mando, which is why there is still an option to convert it into what is now used for making Mando. Well, I used my pre-CU BH to hunt Jedi, so I'm not asking for anything but an option to convert it into the new BH schem which will make a type of BH armor that can be used for hunting Jedi. I'm not asking for anything different(as far as the type of situation) than they've already done. Anyway though, worst comes to worst I guess tahts what I'll b doing...
DarthSillyPants
Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:12 pm
#4
I think that this is working as intended and the devs are probably not going to change it. The lootable black sun BH armor is probably meant just for mandalorian armor crafting. The new armor coming out with bounty hunter marks is probably what the devs want as wearable and leave the looted pre-cu bh armor the way it was and what it was intended for, Mandalorian armor.
Kevin Kereth
Everitt_Cage
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:05 am
#5
Cloake wrote:
Umm, cant you convert it to nonwearable and use that to make mandalorian.. useless huh? I think not. You have the ability to turn it into a component for Mandalorian armor and the ppl who loot em from BH marks will not have that option. You may think its useless but for those out there trying to get the components for mandalorian armor we envy you. I will if i ever want to get mandalorian have to do camp blacksuns kill over 300+ of them to get my full suit. I'm just trying to make the arguement that its not useless alot of ppl want mandalorian armor and you are way closer then most since you have the ability to convert it over to the nonwearable component for it. I dont care if you dont want mandalorian armor but the fact that it can be used for it makes it a usefull and very valuable item. Anyways just my opinion, Thx.
-Cloake
Thats well and good, but doesnt address the issue that I did NOT loot it to make Mando, I looted it to USE as BH armor while hunting Jedi. Thats why I did all my looting. It may not have been why you or anyone else did, people have different reasons for what they do. Someone might have wanted to make Mando, someone else might have just wanted to put in in a museum, but I did all my looting to use my BH armor, and for the people that did that, their work should count for something. I see your point, but your comments are very narrow minded, as not everyone got BH armor to make Mando, which your assuming they did. If I dont want to make Mando then all my work is now useless to me, as I have no need for creds(if I sold it), and am not an interior decorator.
Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 07-24-2005 03:09 PM
Cloake
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:19 am
#6
Ok I got a solution, without making the devs look at this so they can consentrate on fixing important problems. Wait a few weeks and make some post on your server forum saying you'll give your old BH suit for a new BH suit. I'm sure you'll have no problem trading for a new one. Or you could sell one of your suits for the millions its worth to someone who is indeed working towards Mandalorian armor. I know you worked so hard and all that, and i'm sure in the near future you wont have any problems trading your old suit for a new one. Again just my honest opinion I think the devs should be working on more important issues, especially when we as players can make our own solutions for this problem.
-Cloake
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