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Thread: Newly MBH needs help for tactics against BH...

Jary
Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:16 am
#1
Hello,

I just got MBH yesterday.

First of all my temp is : MBH / MCM / Pistols xxx4

I tried to kill the jedi that was lowest price on terminal, and it was a knight He just owned me lol =)

I was wondering first of all if all BH uses macro, because to some famous BH on europe-infinity and they told me all good BH (as them) uses macro, but I don't really macros for a fight...


Then if it's not that, my weapons are an advanced laser rifle which makes 500 - 1k dmg, 277 dps (a bit slow i know) and cost is 86 I think. I have a pistol which makes a bita less dmg, but has 307 dps. I use an assault armor, which is about 7k protection from energy and 4k from kinetic, but i think i'll get a higher kinetic armor.


Tell me if you think something is wrong, or if you think it must have been my techniques who had been wrong. I know 2 BH which are famous from killing full temp jedis on their own, so just wondering...


Thanks a lot :-)
Deathmound_lostdog
Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:20 am
#2
personaly i dont use many macros... i find i do better kiting with the arrow keys and manualy clicking my attacks and heals ont he toolbar... this also helps for the @$$holes that thinks it's funny to invite you to group when fighting a jedi.. BTW my first jedi mark was a knight too... lol.. he let me go after 2 incaps though.. damn decent of him



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cyman31
Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:38 am
#3
similar template to me. only i went rifles 0004.


With this template the trick is finding out who have pre cu sabers and who dont. Being Master cm you will know if you can win the fight if you last more than 20 seconds its pretty much in tha bag as long as u can heal good.


The tactic i find most useful is start at range with underhand shot. then use crital strike untill they get close to you. As soon as they are in range hit them with paralyze ( important not to use a DOT prior to this. ) Once they are paralyzed then get ure debuffs landed as soon as and get ranged again underhand to see if u can get them down again if not its time to use your fire and poison. After they have been debuffed set on fire and poisoned its all down to how you use your heals. Remember as a CM you can have 4 different heals that you can use simutaniously( spelling ) Thats your bacta toss, shot, area heal and stims.


Once you have worked out the heal rotation keep an eye on their debuffs. if any go land them again. If you are running low on action dont forget to use the basic ranged shot and head hit these cost less action and you will see you action fill up quickly again.


As long as you have good mind regen food you should be able to at least hold your own against and post CU full template that didnt stock pearls crystals.



So far the only fights i have lost are to pre CU full templates , knights and thats only if they are master LS.





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BHM
Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:43 am
#4




Jary wrote:

Hello,

I just got MBH yesterday.

First of all my temp is : MBH / MCM / Pistols xxx4

I tried to kill the jedi that was lowest price on terminal, and it was a knight He just owned me lol =)

I was wondering first of all if all BH uses macro, because to some famous BH on europe-infinity and they told me all good BH (as them) uses macro, but I don't really macros for a fight...


Then if it's not that, my weapons are an advanced laser rifle which makes 500 - 1k dmg, 277 dps (a bit slow i know) and cost is 86 I think. I have a pistol which makes a bita less dmg, but has 307 dps. I use an assault armor, which is about 7k protection from energy and 4k from kinetic, but i think i'll get a higher kinetic armor.


Tell me if you think something is wrong, or if you think it must have been my techniques who had been wrong. I know 2 BH which are famous from killing full temp jedis on their own, so just wondering...


Thanks a lot :-)




No, macros aren't needed.


1)get yourself a better rifle with higher dmg/dps and lower sac


2)You need high Energy resistance, not kinetic. The best option (considering your template) is a set of battle armor (like RIS) with 7000 Energy resistance.


3)Buy CM enhancers, high quality stimpacks (close to 1200 heal) and FOOD. Food is very, very important. You need action/mind regen foods, I'd buy some booster blue for the extra mind regen too And Parwan Nutricake, with about 92-94% reuse time and low filling (like 22 filling), that's the burstrun food and allows you to kite/chase jedi. Then see what other foods suit your needs


4)Practice. That's the key.. the more jedi you fights, the more you learn.. Macros will never ever turn an unexperienced hunter into a killing machine. Practice will make you strong




Andros Celsum ~ Master Bounty Hunter ~ "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

Calel_Haven
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:07 am
#5
My first piece of advice is to change the thread title from

Newly MBH needs help for tactics against BH


to


Newly MBH needs help for tactics against Jedi



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SpecterLeader
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:50 am
#6

Hi


I have the same template as you, this is a list of what gear I use. With it I can take down anything except jedi master defenders who still causes me some trouble.


7k Energy Resist armour, with 75% armourbreak reduction slice


Foods:Mandalorian Wine,Booster Blue, Vegeparsine,Piketta Pie, Crispic and every once i a while a Ruby Bliel.


1250 Stim D and Enhancers for your fire/poison and heals...


Scatter, 1.74spd,352-948 dmg with 67 SAC, I also carry a Rifle for kiting in case I need to get my mind or action up. Always use sac pups, my gun has 47 SAC with a sac pup...



My experience has showed me that what is needed is just to outlast the force and what not. Heale, stand your ground and watch him tire himself out.



Harken






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Deathmound_lostdog
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:52 am
#7




SpecterLeader wrote:


Hi


I have the same template as you, this is a list of what gear I use. With it I can take down anything except jedi master defenders who still causes me some trouble.


7k Energy Resist armour, with 75% armourbreak reduction slice


Foods:Mandalorian Wine,Booster Blue, Vegeparsine,Piketta Pie, Crispic and every once i a while a Ruby Bliel.


1250 Stim D and Enhancers for your fire/poison and heals...


Scatter, 1.74spd,352-948 dmg with 67 SAC, I also carry a Rifle for kiting in case I need to get my mind or action up. Always use sac pups, my gun has 47 SAC with a sac pup...



My experience has showed me that what is needed is just to outlast the force and what not. Heale, stand your ground and watch him tire himself out.



Harken





are these crated? they must have been made from pre CU componetns.. personally i cant make mine above 1167/16




Hellmount
"What does not destroy me, makes me strong." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm too lazy to make a clever sig.
SpecterLeader
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:56 am
#8

Yeah, crafted...the guy who makes them is called Matta on the ahazi server







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Deathmound_lostdog
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:56 am
#9
how many uses?.. i must send him a PM



Hellmount
"What does not destroy me, makes me strong." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm too lazy to make a clever sig.
SpecterLeader
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:59 am
#10
30ish... and you do that, he has been a doc forever...




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- M B H - M C M - P I S T O L E E R -
-Vengeance-

"Aren't you a little small to be a Storm Trooper?"
hanli9
Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:26 am
#11
i would get a better ALR with capped damage then i speed pup on and some battle armor with 6-7k stats INSTEAD OF ASSUALTand i don't like macros i never used macros they suck and get some food like Parwan Nutricake for kiting and some boosterblue and spiced tea and cyber arm's.



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Jary
Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:10 pm
#12

Thanks to all of you


I will try all of your pieces of advices. Thanks a lot

TonieStark
Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:55 pm
#13
I sometimes do not fight like I advise but that has come with getting more experience, what I recommend here is what you should do for the first 10 kills or so, then you can start to develop your own style and tactics....


1. only attack if you have achieved complete and utter surprise.(meaning you can frontload a alot of damage, getting a clean KD, followed up by a Torso , ADV Crti combo, followed by stopping shot , Torso, ADV crit combo as an example. This will guarantee the jedi to be in a defensive position after the the first strike. You have forced him to think of only two things at this point, running or healing first AND then coming after you.


2. Only engage if the Jedi, in addition to being completely surprised, is not buffed or his force is down, or he is engaed by MOBS or creatures. Even if you achieve utter surprise like #1 above but the jedi is not in a tough spot (in other words he is buffed and not distracted or engaged by other PvE activities) you can still lose dramatically even if you cause massive damage before reaction, so DON'T engage and follow this rule.

If you follow these two rules and drop the mission whenever you can not engage with these parameters, you will achieve success . There is nothing wrong in doing this. This is the BH way and Jedi's are 1.5 stronger for this reason.


3. Learn about foods and how they best compliment your personal template, seek out high energy resit armor, slice it for Armor break if possible. Find a good weapon with high damage that you can slice for speed. Add a power up to the weapon to let it produce even more damage (so cap damage with weaponsmith and Power up, slice speed).


4. Add a duelist macro this will help alot as well, here is one I found on this forum (name it duelist):

/duelists;

/pause 26;

/alarmaddin 0 0 STOP, DUELIST!!

/pause 1;

/macro Duelist


Be sure to use the following for deathblow so that the macro does not interfere:


/dump

/deathblow




Great thread on MBH MCM Tactics.

Message Edited by TonieStark on 08-20-2005 08:57 PM

Message Edited by TonieStark on 08-20-2005 08:59 PM



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