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Thread: KD exploit huh?

Nnamyn
Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:45 am
#1




"sorry for that my puter froze up and suddenly i had post 2 posted and wasnt even done typing it "


Was talking to a friend yesterday, and he told me about some of his lates jedi kills. Actually a few good stories. He went after one while we where talking and after he killed the jedi. The jedi and some of his friends send him a tell that he was using a KD exploit, and he told me that wasnt the first jedi that told him that.... I he has no clue what they mean or anything and he is afraid that he is using a exploit. he doesnt look the boards that often so i told him i would make a post on the boards to find out if there isa KD exploit out there, since i havent seen anything about that my self or heard about it. And im not that active in jedi hunting at the moment.... So if anyone knows what they are talking about or if this is true or not that would be very helpfull..



Message Edited by Nnamyn on 08-11-2005 01:51 AM

Hixxy_UK
Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:46 am
#2

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Y0ungPadawan
Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:58 am
#3


Its not an exploit its a bug. You get a message saying "you cannot knockdown recovery while knocked down". To get up, you basically have to spam KD recovery + stand ... only problem is your usually incapped by the time it works. Normally the reason I die when jedi hunting ... especially when combined with all the server-side lag.


As far as i can tell it can happen to anyone who's been KD'd


Message Edited by Y0ungPadawan on 08-11-2005 09:59 AM



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Nnamyn
Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:03 am
#4

so itsactually justknockdown recovery that fails to worksometimes?Well thanks for the info will tell my friend not to worry that much about it...
Eskie
Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:05 am
#5



Nnamyn wrote:
so its actually just knockdown recovery that fails to work sometimes? Well thanks for the info will tell my friend not to worry that much about it...




There was a time when you could create this situation 100% of the time by using KD in combination with dazes. I dont know if this changed with the recent no-daze-chaining patch.



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Nnamyn
Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:14 am
#6

Never heard about that, but then again i havent been that active lately. Well my friend just got afraid what he did was wrong with out knowing it, so he just wanted to be sure what it was all about. Will see if i can find more info about this on the here most be some old posts about it or something like that.... But basically it not his fault since its a bug with the KD recovery, and it fails now and then?....
soeHatesTheirCustomers
Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:18 am
#7


their usen jedi mind tricks on you....better take some more spice
Eskie
Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:24 am
#8



Nnamyn wrote:
Never heard about that, but then again i havent been that active lately. Well my friend just got afraid what he did was wrong with out knowing it, so he just wanted to be sure what it was all about. Will see if i can find more info about this on the here most be some old posts about it or something like that.... But basically it not his fault since its a bug with the KD recovery, and it fails now and then?....




As I said, there was a time when player A could put player B into a state where his KD recovery failed by using certain attacks in a certain order. Back then, using these attacks in said order was an exploit.
I dont know if this still works, but in your case I would say it was by accident. KD recovery seems to be pretty buggy in general, I heard clearing up the combat queue by pressing ESC twice before using it might help.



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Mosstoles
Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:27 am
#9

Yes... exploit is: Master rifle + 0 4 0 0 pistoleer + MBH. Start combat: underhand shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot... and finaly kill your enemy. In this chain recovery kd fail, you cant heal, you cant stand, you cant make nothing. Jedi have a change to out of this chain, because BH misses, but a no jedi alwaysdie.


The bug is that if you are disarming shot or startle, kd recovery must work and heal self, but dont make.


Other issue is if you arelow of action and tryuse recovery kd spawn the system message: you cant recovery kdwhile are kd. Is a text error, but is correct, because needaction, a lot of action to use recovery kd skill.The text will must be: you cant recoverykd because are low of action.


Sometimes kd and heal fail... but is other problem, no a exploit.












Nnamyn
Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:05 am
#10






Mosstoles wrote:

Yes... exploit is: Master rifle + 0 4 0 0 pistoleer + MBH. Start combat: underhand shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot... and finaly kill your enemy. In this chain recovery kd fail, you cant heal, you cant stand, you cant make nothing. Jedi have a change to out of this chain, because BH misses, but a no jedi alwaysdie.


The bug is that if you are disarming shot or startle, kd recovery must work and heal self, but dont make.


Other issue is if you arelow of action and tryuse recovery kd spawn the system message: you cant recovery kdwhile are kd. Is a text error, but is correct, because needaction, a lot of action to use recovery kd skill.The text will must be: you cant recoverykd because are low of action.


Sometimes kd and heal fail... but is other problem, no a exploit.







Well that was what i was looking for thanks he is a MBH/MRM/and some CM so.... thanks for the help So its prolly because they are low on action thanks for the info man.... Now my friend can relax a bit hehehe

Eskie
Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:06 am
#11



Mosstoles wrote:
Yes... exploit is: Master rifle + 0 4 0 0 pistoleer + MBH. Start combat: underhand shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot... and finaly kill your enemy. In this chain recovery kd fail, you cant heal, you cant stand, you cant make nothing. Jedi have a change to out of this chain, because BH misses, but a no jedi always die.
The bug is that if you are disarming shot or startle, kd recovery must work and heal self, but dont make.
Other issue is if you are low of action and try use recovery kd spawn the system message: you cant recovery kd while are kd. Is a text error, but is correct, because need action, a lot of action to use recovery kd skill. The text will must be: you cant recovery kd because are low of action.
Sometimes kd and heal fail... but is other problem, no a exploit.




Uhm - that got fixed with the introduction of the "Anger" state which you automatically get after a daze wore off and which prevents a new daze from sticking. People do get the the "you cannot KD recovery while KDed" even if nobody is daze-chaining them.



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alias77
Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:09 am
#12



Mosstoles wrote:
Yes... exploit is: Master rifle + 0 4 0 0 pistoleer + MBH. Start combat: underhand shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot + startle shot + disarming shot... and finaly kill your enemy. In this chain recovery kd fail, you cant heal, you cant stand, you cant make nothing. Jedi have a change to out of this chain, because BH misses, but a no jedi always die.
The bug is that if you are disarming shot or startle, kd recovery must work and heal self, but dont make.
Other issue is if you are low of action and try use recovery kd spawn the system message: you cant recovery kd while are kd. Is a text error, but is correct, because need action, a lot of action to use recovery kd skill. The text will must be: you cant recovery kd because are low of action.
Sometimes kd and heal fail... but is other problem, no a exploit.





disarming + startle shot no longer works, after the first shot your enemy get a defense bonus against a new dazz state.
long enough to press kd recovery or heal.



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Arcadias
Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:04 am
#13

afaik there is no way to prevent somebody to use KDR forever (as said by others: After a daze or whatever you are granted an immunity for some seconds)


But a lot of ppl miss something: spamming attacks and macros can mess your KDR up. I wouldnt use looping macros and hit "Esc" twice (as said by others) before you hit KDR. And dont spam KDR. Click it one time and wait for it to execute.


But all the problems seem to be on the side of the KD'ed player, not the one who KD'ed.

But ppl tend to blame exploits for their loss very often lately... /sigh




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