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Thread: How many hunt same faction?

-Sene-
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:00 am
#1

i get a decent amount of tells (well mate tells, haha) for doing this, but in my defense, does a bounty have anything to do with the GCW? and is it not true that a Jedi is concidered a criminal no matetr what faction they are tied to?


also, a "restore imperial order" mission that has an imperial jedi as the mark, i beleive is fair game... or am i wrong? LOL. It seems to me when there is an Imperial order to kill an Imperial Jedi... that Jedi "technically" commited treason or an offensive act against the Imp. army/gov't.





oh and it doesnt cut down on base runners



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ocili
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:07 am
#2

Personally I don't same faction hunt, as its MY choice not too, but here is why you can do whatever you want to do.




Here is why Bounty Hunters IF they choose to have EVERY RIGHT to SAME FACTION HUNTING!


This is a little senario that I have actually seen happen. So Bounty Hunters have a very MINOR effect on the GCW then what people think.


1. You go out and kill krayts one day. Loot some sweet +150 max damage tissues (just using a number). You go and put them on the forum. You make a cool 15 million (or whatever). But it just so happens the person yousell them to is of the opposing faction. Do you cancel your sell to that person. No. Why, because you are in it for the all might dollar, just like the smuggler and crafters are. And guess what, that person also killed some of your guildmates and fellow same faction jedi with that weapon. Now, if im not mistaken, this means you just AIDED the enemy. But now, its ok, once again. You are in it for the credits with the sell of your tissues.



2. A Weapon/Armor smith, Chef, Artisian, Driod Engineer, etc goes and crafts their proffs items. Now lets take Weaponsmith for example, and lets tie it into the above example. This weaponsmith from your guild and/or faction takes tissues from that opposing faction member and makes him that uber weapon. But now this is ok because the Weaponsmith was just doing his job.



3. A Smuggler in your guild/faction is out doing his job. Being a smuggler. An opposing faction member comes up and asks to have something sliced. Smuggler slices a weapon that is uber already and gets a perfect damage slice on it. That opposing faction member takes that weapon and goes PvP'ing with it and kills your fellow guild/faction members, jedi included. But now this is ok because the Smuggler was just doing his job.



So you see, no whatever what anyone does, it hurts the GCW, whether its intentional or not. And yes, we BH can choose to kill or not when we see the jedi. But, same can go for you in the #1 example, same for the crafter in the #2 example, and same for the smuggler in the #3 example. We are all just in it for the all might credits in the end. Its our job to get rich, no matter what proff we are.


But what you say? The crafters can't control who buys stuff off their vendors? Wrong. Your crafters can ban guilds that they do not want using their structure where their vendors are. But what if the crafter isn't using their own structure and have no control? Well, guess you had better take your vendor else where, to where you have control or know control is being taken.




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bmill
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:10 am
#3






-Sene- wrote:

i get a decent amount of tells (well mate tells, haha) for doing this, but in my defense, does a bounty have anything to do with the GCW? and is it not true that a Jedi is concidered a criminal no matetr what faction they are tied to?


also, a "restore imperial order" mission that has an imperial jedi as the mark, i beleive is fair game... or am i wrong? LOL. It seems to me when there is an Imperial order to kill an Imperial Jedi... that Jedi "technically" commited treason or an offensive act against the Imp. army/gov't.





oh and it doesnt cut down on base runners





According to Star Wars'ia.... all Jedi are to be destroyed. Now that order was given back in the days of the republic, at the Empire's birth... before the rebellion, before the factions, etc. Unless that order was rescinded, then yes... they are all to be put to death.


I have no issues with Imperials that hunt Jedi of the Empire. That's their perogative. However, my guild is a very PvP intensive guild. We, as a rule, do not hunt Imperial Jedi since later we may call on that Jedi or Jedi's Guild to aid us in PvP against the rebels. We find that there are just too many problems caused, and that our brothers are not willing to help a unit that has assassinated one of their own. For that reason, -=OBS=- will expel any member who hunts a same faction Jedi.





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BalexSlicer
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:18 am
#4

I do, but only because I join whichever faction is currently loosing (the better players are on the winners side, and I enjoy my PvP)

Penguinzx
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:27 am
#5


I've got to agree with Ocili here, no one sends hate tells to smugglers, or crafters, or dancer, or healers when they make money from helping the opposite faction. Not to mention the fact that I see rebels and imperials out hunting in the same grind groups all the time. The only time I have ever seen the "faction issue" brought up is when I have killed a Jedi of the same faction. When the Jedi wins, it's never a problem either. Which leads me to the inevitable conclusion that is has absolutely nothing to do with hunting those of the same faction, and has everything to do with the fact that Jedi will use any excuse they can think of to complain about losing a fight, or to devise a scheme to prevent BHs from hunting them. There are numerous guilds on my server that have tried setting up "treaties" to prevent same faction BH hunting, and while they may claim it's for RP, all it's really for is to reduce the number of BHs that can hunt their padawans by 50%.


In my personal opinion, there is nothing wrong with same faction hunting. The BH/Jedi conflict is the only time this RP aspect of the game gets invoked, and to me this takes a lot of the credibility away from the arguement. I would actually go so far as to encourage same faction hunting. If you want to preserve a little more of your first strike ability, same faction hunting can help, most Jedi only get skittish when they see a blue dot approaching on their radar. Show up on their radar as the same faction and you may have a chance of getting much closer before they start getting suspicious.


As always though, it's up to the individual. If you chose not to hunt those of the same faction, that is perfectly fine. The only time I get annoyed is when other people start telling me who I can and can not hunt. If their mission is on the terminals, they are fair game. That's all there is to it.


Message Edited by Penguinzx on 10-17-2005 11:27 AM



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GnortHunter
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:34 pm
#6






-Sene- wrote:

i get a decent amount of tells (well mate tells, haha) for doing this, but in my defense, does a bounty have anything to do with the GCW? and is it not true that a Jedi is concidered a criminal no matetr what faction they are tied to?


also, a "restore imperial order" mission that has an imperial jedi as the mark, i beleive is fair game... or am i wrong? LOL. It seems to me when there is an Imperial order to kill an Imperial Jedi... that Jedi "technically" commited treason or an offensive act against the Imp. army/gov't.





oh and it doesnt cut down on base runners






I could seriously care less what faction they are, oonce my temp, armor, etc is set it's everyone for themselves


Jedi should have no faction and neither should Bounty Hunters.


It's an oxymoron for both.



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whitethunder
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:48 pm
#7

generally rebel scum for me but I'll throw an imperial mission in there once in a while when things get boring.


who cares about faction anymore anyways


GnortHunter
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:54 pm
#8






whitethunder wrote:

generally rebel scum for me but I'll throw an imperial mission in there once in a while when things get boring.


who cares about faction anymore anyways








with the gcw the way it is, no kidding.



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SamousNemo
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:59 pm
#9

I would, but I haven't alligned myself since the GTEF was removed


But as a general rule of thumb, anyone who says you shouldn't do something for RP purposes, isn't that good of a role player


If someone is creative enough, he/she could justify any course of action (within the TOS, of course)





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-Sene-
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:03 pm
#10

well, its not like i was going to stop just b/c of a few tells ,haha, i was just wondering.... and i get alot less duel requests when im among same faction jedi, so there is a better chance of suprise.



IGN: Sene or ik'ek

Eclipse: Sene - Elder Combat Medic! & Vortex Ace
Ik'Ek - (lvl 34 Jedi) Ex-Master Entertainer
Seene - Elder Smuggler / Pistoleer
Soneti - Domestics

Drop off vendor: /Waypoint 606 -3985 , 1km outside Dearic, Talus

LordMarr
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:06 pm
#11

Im a Neutral Bounty Hunter and i hunt Neutral Jedi. Man you should see the hate tells.
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