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Thread: Need some help from more experienced BH's
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Aroogala
Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:45 am
#1
Ok, heres the background: My template is Master Pistols, Master Bounty Hunter, and 4-0-0-0 CM.
My pistol's stats are as such:
Speed 2.01
Damage: 356-944
Sac: 66
And I'm very experienced at combat as I was a rifleman BH before I made the worth mistake of my playing days.
I do no damage. At all.
I can heal and keep up with any jedi I face, but I can't make a dent in those pretty little padawan robes.
Now, I have questions:
1. Is this just my template?
2. Is it my weapon?
3. Is it me doing something wrong while in combat?
4. All of the above
Any insight would be most helpful.
MasterCommandoZ
Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:48 am
#2
do you use any pups on your gun? what attacks are you using, what foods, how do you hunt? Send me a tell some time and i can help you
Aroogala
Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:53 am
#3
I use a SAC powerup on the pistol, which is also sliced for a 10% critical shot chance, and has a 24 accuracy bonus. I also tried using a damage PU, with little to no difference on the outcome. I wear the best energy armor on my server, I use vagnarian canape and breath of heaven as food. When I was a rifleman, I would usually try to sneak on them, but with the limited range of the pistol, its forced me to go for the shock and awe technique of just bum-rushing them.
Message Edited by Aroogala on 08-09-2005 01:54 AM
Stecoli
Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:55 am
#4
That is a decent pistol, if your using special moves you should be doing 900 damage which is not "hardly any damage at all", I have the same template as you, but I do well with my gun and its similar, maybe your defense if lacking and not your offense.
use duelist stance, spiced tea, blob candy, thundercloud and synthesteak, get some 8k recon armor energy resist and get a PSG, carry around some assault armor incase you get into trouble with melee so you can switch.
If you still cant win, you clearly suck
Aroogala
Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:58 am
#5
I'm pretty confident its not my defense, as I can stand there toe to toe with full template and slug it out for 5-10 minutes. The only prblm is that in that span, I can barely tick at their health pool. Now, I've noticed that this wasnt true when I fought a MasterPowers tonight. I was wondering if perhaps its the type of jedi I've been facing, some ability that they have to absorb more damage.
Or I just have been fighting jedi with their health crystals used and havent noticed it
Message Edited by Aroogala on 08-09-2005 01:59 AM
Stecoli
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:03 am
#6
ok check your combat tab, if your doing600 dmg to a jedi then thats a decent amount, 400 can mean the jedi has really good defense, if its less try and get a pistol which inflicts a different type of damage , eg if your gun does energy, switch to a kinetic or electricity, you have to remeber a long fight with a jedi, you hardly touch him, but his force isdecreasing all the time,then as soon as his force has gone, they die real fast, their health and mind go down really quick.
hanli9
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:05 am
#7
1= use puppy on your pistol.
2=use recon armor with at least 7k energy ..mine have 8.2k and with some mods on
3=use food
4=it's all in you'r head
5=depends what template the jedi is.
6=what tactic you are using
7=what kind of attack's you are using
2=use recon armor with at least 7k energy ..mine have 8.2k and with some mods on
3=use food
4=it's all in you'r head
5=depends what template the jedi is.
6=what tactic you are using
7=what kind of attack's you are using
Aroogala
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:08 am
#8
Yeah I'm doing about 400 damage for each hit.
I've had a bit of a thought here. Do you think an improvement would be to switch to a Kashyk stalker pistol, which does kinetic damage instead of energy?
Jedi_Xan
Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:29 pm
#10
The biggest problem your going to have is range. Not that it cant be overcome. Kiting in and out of that 36m range is difficult. Jedi get really dangerous inside 36m, and if they are MLS, you will wind up on your back poste haste. My suggestion is to locate defense vs knockdown CA's or food (if there is any), some 90% or higher parawan, and some K18 (reduce the burst run timer). The Def V KD will give you just slightly better odds when they throw that saber at you. Not much, but it might make a difference.
TaKylea
Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:07 pm
#11
Another thing you want to look at is what kind of buff, foods, drinks they are under the influence of. This may be raising their ramged defense numbers and lowering the damage you do. They may also be using CAs with pistol defense mods. Force enhancements are common with most Jedi and this may be another reason your damage is less than you are expecting.
TonieStark
Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:19 pm
#12
I sometimes do not fight like I advise but that has come with getting more experience, what I recommend here is what you should do for the first 10 kills or so, then you can start to develop your own style and tactics....
1. only attack if you have achieved complete and utter surprise.(meaning you can frontload a alot of damage, getting a clean KD, followed up by a Torso , ADV Crti combo, followed by stopping shot , Torso, ADV crit combo as an example. This will guarantee the jedi to be in a defensive position after the the first strike. You have forced him to think of only two things at this point, running or healing first AND then coming after you.
2. Only engage if the Jedi, in addition to being completely surprised, is not buffed or his force is down, or he is engaed by MOBS or creatures. Even if you achieve utter surprise like #1 above but the jedi is not in a tough spot (in other words he is buffed and not distracted or engaged by other PvE activities) you can still lose dramatically even if you cause massive damage before reaction, so DON'T engage and follow this rule.
If you follow these two rules and drop the mission whenever you can not engage with these parameters, you will achieve success . There is nothing wrong in doing this. This is the BH way and Jedi's are 1.5 stronger for this reason.
If you follow these two rules and drop the mission whenever you can not engage with these parameters, you will achieve success . There is nothing wrong in doing this. This is the BH way and Jedi's are 1.5 stronger for this reason.
3. Learn about foods and how they best compliment your personal template, seek out high energy resit armor, slice it for Armor break if possible. Find a good weapon with high damage that you can slice for speed. Add a power up to the weapon to let it produce even more damage (so cap damage with weaponsmith and Power up, slice speed).
4. Add a duelist macro this will help alot as well, here is one I found on this forum:
/duelists;
/pause 26;
/alarmaddin 0 0 STOP, DUELIST!!
/pause 1;
/macro Duelist
/duelists;
/pause 26;
/alarmaddin 0 0 STOP, DUELIST!!
/pause 1;
/macro Duelist
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