Bounty Hunter Archive

Okay guys.....


Already a flamewar is brewing between us and the DE's.

So..... I posted an idea.

Since DE's were so quick to get the BH Droid vendors removed, I challenged them to help us out. If they don't, we can go to Varv and get it done ourselves. Either way, something will eventually get done about the current situation.

There were three ideas I had for resolving this mess:

Reduce materials needed for Seeker and Tracker droids to what BH Droid Vendors charged.
(Example: roughly 100 materials for Seeker, allowing for a cushy profit margin at 200cr)

Increase uses of Seeker and Tracker droids so the current cost per use equals what the droids sold for at the BH Droid vendor.

Bring back the BH Droid vendor, and remove Seeker and tracker droids from DE skill tree.

Any other reasonable ideas? Or will most of us dump Investigate and/or not advance it?

I don't want to be the first one to start the flaming, but do you realize that most people pay at the least 3:1 for resources? I realize they have extractors of their own, but with the 100 or so DEs sprinkled thoughout the servers the sole source for ALL droids, they will be taking orders for 100s every single day from multiple customers. I think the only honest response is to up the pay for the missions. Without giving the DEs any profits at all, what is the point in being a DE making droids for us? Even lowering the costs of production wouldn't do too much, since we're talking about such a small amount to begin with. Let em charge 1k for seekers 1.5k for arakyds, just let US be able to pay for them....that right there would mean we have no problems at all with the DEs....seriously the problem is that SOE is bending both professions over a cheese grater. The DEs just got it worse than us earlier than us, and therefore might have more of a reason to complain.

I am not very pleased that another profession has placed us as one of thier issues to be delt with.

Maybe our second list should all be aimed at bending the other professions over, seems only negative things get put in fast.

From reading the DE forums seems they think 2k for the droids is fine, because they had no clue they are one use. Unless they gaurantee thier product, 2k for a one use droid is not acceptable. Unless the mission payout are at least trippled, and since SOE seems intent on reducing payouts, not likely to happen.

I hate forgetting the most imporant part of any post....thank you for trying to create a bond between the two professions. This is seriously the only way we're going to be able to get through these rough times (if we do). The idea of the probes failing a lot less is a real good idea too. Anyways, thanks again...

The price of the droids has nothing to do with usage. It's based on resources. In my opinion, 1k for the Seeker is decent for the Engineer, and going too far below that would end up costing them money. It takes something like 170 units of resources to make the Seeker Droid, and as far as the Arakyd....well, that takes a bit more, including the rare Extrusive Ore.

I'd prefer the schematics be lowered down, so that they are more in line with the cost that Bounty Hunters would prefer to pay. Or, as you said, make each droid have multiple uses, but not infinate uses (five uses would do it, for the 5:1 price change ratio).

i know where a droid vendor is muahahahahaha, kiss my ass DE,(jkjk)

Cool guys... thanks much for those of you posting intelligent replies.


If we can get Varv involved, and the DE correspondent maybe we can get somewhere.


BTW,


The DE post you can go to to help out on the DE forum is:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=droid_engineer&message.id=12905&view=by_date_ascending&page=1


Please keep it clean, and try to stick to "reasonable" suggestions to get through this hurdle. If we work together, and get the DE's to talk to their correspondent about fixing the damage they've done, we will all be better off in the long run.

NinjaStyle all you can do with that vendor is get yourself a good handjob because they took out the option to BUY droids you can only highlight Examine and Use.

BarneyIX BH

lmao....I can't wait till they go and try to buy a droid from that vendor that they know about.....hehe...OH NO!!!! Crap, I wish I hadn't told off the DEs in the one positive thread we had going...

In his defence he had a bunch of "jk's" which last I checked meant "Just Kidding"


Let's try to keep this up near the top so Varv can see it. Agreed?


Maybe /bump every hour?

Actually, I don't know how effective it would be, but....could a Bounty Hunter make a particular post here asking for opinions specifically on the idea of leaving things as they are except raising the usage number of the droids from 1 to something like 5? It really does seem like an excellent solution and would address both problems. We'd still be selling them at a price that is relative to the resources made, and Bounty Hunters would be getting their money's worth from the price they have to pay.

I started one in the DE forums, to gather the opinion of the Engineers there, and it'd be good to see what the general BH consensus on the idea is. If it flies, we can pass it up to the Correspondants and they can do a tag-team sort of suggestion to the Devs to change it thusly.

I'm trying to do this, I replied to your poll, and am posting the URL of it here.



http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=droid_engineer&message.id=12987



Thanks for teaming up with me Sigma, I am assuming of course you are a DE?

I think raising the amount of uses per droid isn't a bad idea in any way, however I think the better way would be to up the price paid for bounties. Kill two birds with one stone that way...we already need the extra $ just to pay for the travel costs (and extra time, but thats not needed, just would be kinda nice that they care), and then we would get extra money for the DEs. Things in this game are made to wear out, decompose, etc...thats what makes us need new products. Right now we are one of the very few reasons to be a droid engineer. I've heard more than one say they'll come out of retirement just to help us out. If we raised the uses on the seeker droids without raising the price equally, we wouldn't be buying as many from them. I DO think they need to fail less though, that is just stupid, I've almost run out of droids many many times because of this. And this is not good to have happen on Endor, trust me. anyway, like I said, raise the money we get paid and it no longer becomes an issue at all to pay 1000 and 1500 respectively (172 resources x 3:1 cheapest cost unless extracting + money for their time) and then you add the average of that times the number ofdroids we need per missioninto thepayout per mission. You can get away with a few of each type per mission easily, so this wouldn't raise the amount paid per mission TOO much causing people who know DEs or make deals with them to be getting a really big advantage. This keeps the DEs happy by giving them a steady supply of happy customers that have NO problems paying for a service that they need just to do their jobs. I'm glad to see a good thread going like this, keep up the good work.....also wanted to appoligize to NinjaStyle I didn't see the jk/jk either I've made the same joke on another thread, so I don't know how I could miss it.