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Thread: Want to kill jedi? 3 easy helper points.

Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:33 am
#1

1) Buying a weapon.


90% of jedi run +500 defense macro. When a jedi runs this you can count on hitting towards the MINIMUM damage on your weapon.


When deciding on a weapon do this... take the MINIMUM dmg + any elemental dmg then divide that by speed... This will give you a pretty accurate game play DPS.


2) Food


Seen many BH look for the "stack".To be honest the best food I have found for jedi is BOH, leaving food room for protein or steak.


Steak lasts for 40 seconds and mitigates 40 - 45% damage and has 27 fill so basically you can use this 3-4 times in a battle during key times.


Protien lasts for about 20 seconds has around 27% mitigation and 5 fill... so basically you can pop these babys quite often


For those that do not know how steak/protein works... here you go. lets just say you have 6500 energy resist armor what that means is that your armor will absorb about 50% of damage


Now steak will stack the 40% on top of your 50% already... giving you 90% absorbsion ( a 45% steak will give you 95%)


So even a uber pre CU saber that is hitting for 1500 dmg will only do 150 pts while you have the steak going. that is compared to 750 dmg per hit with no steak --- huge difference


Protein would be 345 dmg compared to 750.... and this is considering a uber saber.


Timing is also key... pop one the moment you get KD'd or and simmilar times when jedi is just trying to lay on the damage.



3) Droids


I have played with almost every droid... The best for me is simply this: Arakyd droid withbest medicial rating/armor/combat modules possible on you server.


I have had every droid possible and this one Outdamages all the others... On average it does to jeid (after amor) 75 dmg 15x in 20 second, and it is kinetic dmg... sounds small right?


That is 1,125 constant dmg every 20 seconds.... that is better then ticks My droids armor also simply rocks it can last 5-8 hits... those are 5 -8 hits I am not taking and I always repair it during battle.










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PyroFreezor
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:54 am
#2






Anarchicgorilla wrote:

1) Buying a weapon.


90% of jedi run +500 defense macro. When a jedi runs this you can count on hitting towards the MINIMUM damage on your weapon.


When deciding on a weapon do this... take the MINIMUM dmg + any elemental dmg then divide that by speed... This will give you a pretty accurate game play DPS.


2) Food


Seen many BH look for the "stack".To be honest the best food I have found for jedi is BOH, leaving food room for protein or steak.


Steak lasts for 40 seconds and mitigates 40 - 45% damage and has 27 fill so basically you can use this 3-4 times in a battle during key times.


Protien lasts for about 20 seconds has around 27% mitigation and 5 fill... so basically you can pop these babys quite often


For those that do not know how steak/protein works... here you go. lets just say you have 6500 energy resist armor what that means is that your armor will absorb about 50% of damage


Now steak will stack the 40% on top of your 50% already... giving you 90% absorbsion ( a 45% steak will give you 95%)


So even a uber pre CU saber that is hitting for 1500 dmg will only do 150 pts while you have the steak going. that is compared to 750 dmg per hit with no steak --- huge difference


Protein would be 345 dmg compared to 750.... and this is considering a uber saber.


Timing is also key... pop one the moment you get KD'd or and simmilar times when jedi is just trying to lay on the damage.



3) Droids


I have played with almost every droid... The best for me is simply this: Arakyd droid withbest medicial rating/armor/combat modules possible on you server.


I have had every droid possible and this one Outdamages all the others... On average it does to jeid (after amor) 75 dmg 15x in 20 second, and it is kinetic dmg... sounds small right?


That is 1,125 constant dmg every 20 seconds.... that is better then ticks My droids armor also simply rocks it can last 5-8 hits... those are 5 -8 hits I am not taking and I always stim it full of bacta.












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bmill
Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:55 am
#3






PyroFreezor wrote:






and I always stim it full of bacta.




Fixed




Is that an exploit? Never heard of it.....




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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:57 pm
#4






Sundal wrote:

The info on the exo and steak is a little off. 750 damagebefore mitigation is still around 500-600 or so damage with Exo. But the fact remains, these things are exceptional if you need to tank a Jedi for any amount of time.








Numbers not off here is why...



1500 dmg uber saber as stated


1500 - 50% (6500 armor) = 750


1500 - 77% (6500 armor + 27% protein) = 345


Just as I stated in my post





The protein/steak stack with you current armor IE: 50% +27% or 77% reduction



It does not go 1500 - 50% or 750dmg then - 27%for 547






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apprentice_of_eld
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:06 pm
#5






Anarchicgorilla wrote:





Sundal wrote:

The info on the exo and steak is a little off. 750 damagebefore mitigation is still around 500-600 or so damage with Exo. But the fact remains, these things are exceptional if you need to tank a Jedi for any amount of time.








Numbers not off here is why...



1500 dmg uber saber as stated


1500 - 50% (6500 armor) = 750


1500 - 77% (6500 armor + 27% protein) = 345


Just as I stated in my post





The protein/steak stack with you current armor IE: 50% +27% or 77% reduction



It does not go 1500 - 50% or 750dmg then - 27%for 547








are you sure the % stack in that manner. what i mean is could it be like this?

1500 -50%= 750

750- 27%=547.5



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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:26 pm
#6






apprentice_of_eld wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:





Sundal wrote:

The info on the exo and steak is a little off. 750 damagebefore mitigation is still around 500-600 or so damage with Exo. But the fact remains, these things are exceptional if you need to tank a Jedi for any amount of time.








Numbers not off here is why...



1500 dmg uber saber as stated


1500 - 50% (6500 armor) = 750


1500 - 77% (6500 armor + 27% protein) = 345


Just as I stated in my post





The protein/steak stack with you current armor IE: 50% +27% or 77% reduction



It does not go 1500 - 50% or 750dmg then - 27%for 547








are you sure the % stack in that manner. what i mean is could it be like this?

1500 -50%= 750

750- 27%=547.5






Yep it goes armor + buffs then does the damage


so 50% + 27% for 77% absorb..




Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-15-2005 09:28 PM



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KammaRocca
Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:35 pm
#7

How well do droids with autorepair work in PVP?

Karbal
Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:40 pm
#8






Anarchicgorilla wrote:


2) Food


Seen many BH look for the "stack".To be honest the best food I have found for jedi is BOH, leaving food room for protein or steak.








I don't like BOH. It's too filling and dosn't leave much room for Pyro - you should constantly be using Pyro throughout the fight - and dosn't leave much room for emergency Ruby.


I do like the tip on the droid!! Never thought of anything like that .. I usually just use my med droid. Can these droids have both combat modules and medical modules in addtion to a high armor rating? If so, then this will become the wave of the future.


Excellent post.



Karbal
Former Jedi Hunter
Emerok
Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:53 pm
#9

Yes i'm interested also if droids can have both med and combat abilities. That would be nifty
Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:09 pm
#10







KammaRocca wrote:

How well do droids with autorepair work in PVP?







And simmilar question on the droids




The arkayd has room for only 3 modules --- however in actual gameplay it outdamages and tanks r-3's and probots with same stats by 40-60 dmg points and 2-3 hits --- bugged? I donot know, but it is how it works



Self repair works and is usefull a Probot can take 5 modules and R-3 can take 6



I have had a R-3 with the best compontets that had .... 1) combat mod 2) armor mod 3) self repair 4) stim feed 5) storage for stim 6) med 110 rating



However in game play testing I have found the extra 40-60 dmg every shot and stronger defense makes up for me having to slip a repair kit to the bot.... and to make it easy I always "group my pet" then make the macro torepair him as a group member.



To be honest The R-3 is the better "all around" bot... I am a MCM ... so the stim feeds I donot really find that necesssary...


Should have included this in first post... But if you are not a CM4XXX or above A R-3 with the modes I listed in mine might be better for you (remember you need a doc to fill you droid with the stims)



It basically comes to this.... Droids are free help... you donot have to give up any skills or do something special to get them. When I fight jedi I look at it like this.... anything that does not hurt me... will only make me better.


OOO and forMedics with shot or bacta tossfor me a 110 droid makes me heal for 300 more on average... even if it is killed... every little bit counts






And to the jedi that talked about heals....


He/she is right you can heal your bot with your medic stuff... However dumping a Bacta toss on a droid... is a waste of mind when you can repair it.


The only useful thing is if you a cm and then to use bacta spray when you are low... it is a area heal and will heal you both... However I still recomend repair kits the are more effective (considering how much you need mind) in the long run.

Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-15-2005 10:19 PM



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Sundal
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:51 pm
#11






Anarchicgorilla wrote:






apprentice_of_eld wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:





Sundal wrote:

The info on the exo and steak is a little off. 750 damagebefore mitigation is still around 500-600 or so damage with Exo. But the fact remains, these things are exceptional if you need to tank a Jedi for any amount of time.








Numbers not off here is why...



1500 dmg uber saber as stated


1500 - 50% (6500 armor) = 750


1500 - 77% (6500 armor + 27% protein) = 345


Just as I stated in my post





The protein/steak stack with you current armor IE: 50% +27% or 77% reduction



It does not go 1500 - 50% or 750dmg then - 27%for 547








are you sure the % stack in that manner. what i mean is could it be like this?

1500 -50%= 750

750- 27%=547.5






Yep it goes armor + buffs then does the damage


so 50% + 27% for 77% absorb..





Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-15-2005 09:28 PM



I chain exo-protein wafer whenever I fight Pre-cu Jedi knights. I doesnt stack the way you say. Ro-land has it right. The exo comes after the armor mitigation.



1500 -50%= 750

750- 27%=547.5


There is not one fight where Ido not stop to check my combat logs after I'm done with the mark. Even the worst Post-cu saber will do more then 300 damage when you're running Exo. Pre-cu can hit for anywhere between 500-650 with the exo. I'm not saying dont use it, absolutely start using these it'll make any BH twice as dangerous. But the information is just off a bit. I'll post screens with the damage mitigation and the saber damage when I go hunting tonight.
Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:57 pm
#12


That strage.. mine does



I have also fought Jedi who have mig. 95% of my damage.... and the cap withoug food is 60% so that would make the only way possible 45% steak... unless sploited



I will do the same with a log.... I use steak though.. not protien... but should be the same


Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-15-2005 10:59 PM



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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:36 pm
#13

Just tested.... I will save you the log


It worked as you said but other way


- food first


Then - your armour after...



Sryy all my original post is wrong... you migiate your food... then you armor off that.


Sad thing is I have seen 95% mitigation --- only done by sploiting now





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