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Thread: Changing BH vs Jedi forever

TheFatDaddy
Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:49 pm
#1



For anything to work we have to take time to be constructive. Please no BH v Jedi bashing here. I think we can all attest to the fact that what we have, have had and probably will have is broken. We need something different. I posted this on the Chilastra forums and would like your thoughts;



*Bounties should never be on jedi.


*Jedi should be hunted by NPC Imperial forces. They are all an enemy of the empire. This would solve the neg xp, the house hiding, the afk grinding, the starport griefing, the BH griefing, etc...


*Anytime a jedi builds up enough visibility they risk being attacked by high level NPCs. The jedi would have to use all of their abilities to escape without dying. Death from these NPCs would result in xp loss. X amount of xp loss should result in some sort of imaginative punishment.


*Bounties should be on smugglers and players who build up enough of the wrong faction.


*Leave jedi out of the profession balance. They are meant to be an alpha class. Let them be more powerful than every other profession.



I am sure that if we spend time outside the jedi/bh box we can come up with a win win.

Message Edited by TheFatDaddy on 06-30-2005 05:59 PM





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Decimater45
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:11 pm
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TheFatDaddy wrote:



For anything to work we have to take time to be constructive. Please no BH v Jedi bashing here. I think we can all attest to the fact that what we have, have had and probably will have is broken. We need something different. I posted this on the Chilastra forums and would like your thoughts;



*Bounties should never be on jedi.


Ummmm no.


*Jedi should be hunted by NPC Imperial forces. They are all an enemy of the empire. This would solve the neg xp, the house hiding, the afk grinding, the starport griefing, the BH griefing, etc...


Maybe if this jedi dies to much by a Bounty Hunter this could be a option.


*Anytime a jedi builds up enough visibility they risk being attacked by high level NPCs. The jedi would have to use all of their abilities to escape without dying. Death from these NPCs would result in xp loss. X amount of xp loss should result in some sort of imaginative punishment.


This would be good if the Jedi defeats to many jedi.


*Bounties should be on smugglers and players who build up enough of the wrong faction.

I like this idea of hunting Smugglers.


*Leave jedi out of the profession balance. They are meant to be an alpha class. Let them be more powerful than every other profession.


No, If this would happen it would unbalance the whole GCW. Plus we just had the Combat Revamp that was supppose to even out all proffesions(even though some where not.)

I am sure that if we spend time outside the jedi/bh box we can come up with a win win.

Im sorry paddy that you lost exp and suck at pvp and are trying to change the bounty system.

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Rebel_elite
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:13 pm
#3



TheFatDaddy wrote:
For anything to work we have to take time to be constructive. Please no BH v Jedi bashing here. I think we can all attest to the fact that what we have, have had and probably will have is broken. We need something different. I posted this on the Chilastra forums and would like your thoughts;

*Bounties should never be on jedi.

*Jedi should be hunted by NPC Imperial forces. They are all an enemy of the empire. This would solve the neg xp, the house hiding, the afk grinding, the starport griefing, the BH griefing, etc...

*Anytime a jedi builds up enough visibility they risk being attacked by high level NPCs. The jedi would have to use all of their abilities to escape without dying. Death from these NPCs would result in xp loss. X amount of xp loss should result in some sort of imaginative punishment.

*Bounties should be on smugglers and players who build up enough of the wrong faction.
*Leave jedi out of the profession balance. They are meant to be an alpha class. Let them be more powerful than every other profession.
I am sure that if we spend time outside the jedi/bh box we can come up with a win win.

Message Edited by TheFatDaddy on 06-30-2005 05:59 PM





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Phaelyn
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:20 pm
#4






TheFatDaddy wrote:



For anything to work we have to take time to be constructive. Please no BH v Jedi bashing here. I think we can all attest to the fact that what we have, have had and probably will have is broken. We need something different. I posted this on the Chilastra forums and would like your thoughts;



*Bounties should never be on jedi.


*Jedi should be hunted by NPC Imperial forces. They are all an enemy of the empire. This would solve the neg xp, the house hiding, the afk grinding, the starport griefing, the BH griefing, etc...


*Anytime a jedi builds up enough visibility they risk being attacked by high level NPCs. The jedi would have to use all of their abilities to escape without dying. Death from these NPCs would result in xp loss. X amount of xp loss should result in some sort of imaginative punishment.


*Bounties should be on smugglers and players who build up enough of the wrong faction.


*Leave jedi out of the profession balance. They are meant to be an alpha class. Let them be more powerful than every other profession.



I am sure that if we spend time outside the jedi/bh box we can come up with a win win.

Message Edited by TheFatDaddy on 06-30-2005 05:59 PM





As a Jedi, I can tell you this only works one way, and JUST one way... Add this line to your proposal:


*Remove Jedi as a PvP profession.


Honestly, if you did ONLY the list you offered, it allows for unchecked growth &massive GCW-PvP imbalances.



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TheFatDaddy
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:33 pm
#5

I am not a padawan or a jedi. I am an ex MBH who got sick of the complaining and decided to hit the grind again. I would love to see more dynamics to SWG than BH vs Jedi but that is where we are heading.



The part about jedi not being a PvP profession is a valid comment but that is where the Imperial hit squads play a part. Pull the saber near any Imperial NPC and in comes the jedi control. Jedi would be forced to grind in private always ATK or be fairly certain of death and xp loss. No hiding zones where droids will not track, no safe houses... use your imagination. This is the almighty Empire with unlimited resources and massive hatred towards all jedi.


Trying to balance what is supposed to be an alpha with every other class is near impossible. It only distracts from truly broken professions and creates a world of resentment towards jedi from other classes.


Thanks for the replies.







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Shock-N-Awe
Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:15 pm
#6




Bah, my reply took forever to go through. Nm.



....and NO, it aint going to happen.



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JaxMeridian
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:55 pm
#7

Ok, I agree with precisely one thing in that post: Smugglers being hunted by us. ALL Smugglers that violate a contract or skip on the deal. I don't too much plan on hunting Jedi anyway, but I may decide to give it a try (on those self agrandising Jedi who like to go around flasshing their sabers and robes, and griefing other players) Sound like sour grapes? I have nothing against Jedi as a group, but I have been struck down without notice while trying out PVP, and they had a right. I was fair game. But now...so are they. I was comming out of a Starport and this nutball struck me down( i was a CL5 or so at the time, and OBVIOUSLY a newbie). Well, Jedi who play the game and don't go around making [peoples life miserable have nothing to worry from me. But if they ACT like a Sith, walk like a Sith, and smell like a Sith, when I get to the level where I can hunt them, they'll die like a Sith.

There are all kinds of things that can be put on the terms: Jedi with Visibility, Smugglers that are crooks, and other players that get too many complaints against them for harrassing other players. It would let us Police our own game.

Don't like this post or my attitude? Thats OK with me, you're as welcome to your opinion as we all should be.



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EldosAirheart
Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:00 pm
#8






TheFatDaddy wrote:



For anything to work we have to take time to be constructive. Please no BH v Jedi bashing here. I think we can all attest to the fact that what we have, have had and probably will have is broken. We need something different. I posted this on the Chilastra forums and would like your thoughts;



*Bounties should never be on jedi.


*Jedi should be hunted by NPC Imperial forces. They are all an enemy of the empire. This would solve the neg xp, the house hiding, the afk grinding, the starport griefing, the BH griefing, etc...


*Anytime a jedi builds up enough visibility they risk being attacked by high level NPCs. The jedi would have to use all of their abilities to escape without dying. Death from these NPCs would result in xp loss. X amount of xp loss should result in some sort of imaginative punishment.


*Bounties should be on smugglers and players who build up enough of the wrong faction.


*Leave jedi out of the profession balance. They are meant to be an alpha class. Let them be more powerful than every other profession.



I am sure that if we spend time outside the jedi/bh box we can come up with a win win.

Message Edited by TheFatDaddy on 06-30-2005 05:59 PM




I'm sorry to hear that you've been slaughtered by countless Bounty Hunters. Nah, just kidding. Your ideas suck.



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TheFatDaddy
Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:16 pm
#9






EldosAirheart wrote:





TheFatDaddy wrote:



For anything to work we have to take time to be constructive. Please no BH v Jedi bashing here. I think we can all attest to the fact that what we have, have had and probably will have is broken. We need something different. I posted this on the Chilastra forums and would like your thoughts;



*Bounties should never be on jedi.


*Jedi should be hunted by NPC Imperial forces. They are all an enemy of the empire. This would solve the neg xp, the house hiding, the afk grinding, the starport griefing, the BH griefing, etc...


*Anytime a jedi builds up enough visibility they risk being attacked by high level NPCs. The jedi would have to use all of their abilities to escape without dying. Death from these NPCs would result in xp loss. X amount of xp loss should result in some sort of imaginative punishment.


*Bounties should be on smugglers and players who build up enough of the wrong faction.


*Leave jedi out of the profession balance. They are meant to be an alpha class. Let them be more powerful than every other profession.



I am sure that if we spend time outside the jedi/bh box we can come up with a win win.

Message Edited by TheFatDaddy on 06-30-2005 05:59 PM




I'm sorry to hear that you've been slaughtered by countless Bounty Hunters. Nah, just kidding. Your ideas suck.






And now we hit the lowest common element. Oh well. I guess BHers can continue to cry about jedi and jedi can continue to cry about blah blah...


The word of the day was constructive.







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