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As I'm sure most BHs* are now aware of the newer armor slicing methods, something occured to me. What Saber attacks effect which piece of armor:

In my hunts I have found that many MLS Jedi like to use the SAME combo of attacks:

Advanced Saber Throw (SPAM)
Improved Armor Break
Improved Power Saber Attack
Improved Saber Body Hit
Improved Saber Head Hit

Now the last two make sense, they hit body and head armor. However, what about the top 3?

To use this question for practical terms...I want to get an Armor Break slice, should I slice the helmet, leg armor, or body armor? Of course I want to slice all 3, but do I need to get ALL my pieces of Armor sliced to prevent any extra damage from effecting me? Or is it merely based on subsequent attacks AFTER the Armor Break Special has been used.

I.E.

A Jedi uses Improved Armor Break (what part of the body is effected), now if the Jedi follows up with an Improved Saber Body Hit, and I have an Armor Break slice on my Chest plate, I SHOULD see a reduction in the normal amount of damage that WOULD have been done without an Armor break slice...correct? Okay, well what if the Jedi follows that up with an advanced Saber Throw? If I don't have an Armor break slice on THAT piece of armor, that means the FULL damage of the Armor break is going to be done...am I correct?

I'm just trying to make educated decisions based on the infomation I believe I know, and follow it up with information provided in replies about issues I'm ignorant about.

Thanks in advance.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 08-07-2005 02:07 PM

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Tucheck wrote:
As I'm sure most BHs* are now aware of the newer armor slicing methods, something occured to me. What Saber attacks effect which piece of armor:

In my hunts I have found that many MLS Jedi like to use the SAME combo of attacks:

Advanced Saber Throw (SPAM)
Improved Armor Break
Improved Power Saber Attack
Improved Saber Body Hit
Improved Saber Head Hit

Now the last two make sense, they hit body and head armor. However, what about the top 3?

To use this question for practical terms...I want to get an Armor Break slice, should I slice the helmet, leg armor, or body armor? Of course I want to slice all 3, but do I need to get ALL my pieces of Armor sliced to prevent any extra damage from effecting me? Or is it merely based on subsequent attacks AFTER the Armor Break Special has been used.

I.E.

A Jedi uses Improved Armor Break (what part of the body is effected), now if the Jedi follows up with an Improved Saber Body Hit, and I have an Armor Break slice on my Chest plate, I SHOULD see a reduction in the normal amount of damage that WOULD have been done without an Armor break slice...correct? Okay, well what if the Jedi follows that up with an advanced Saber Throw? If I don't have an Armor break slice on THAT piece of armor, that means the FULL damage of the Armor break is going to be done...am I correct?

I'm just trying to make educated decisions based on the infomation I believe I know, and follow it up with information provided in replies about issues I'm ignorant about.

Thanks in advance.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 08-07-2005 02:07 PM

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Saber Throw, Armor Break and Power Attack are not targeted specials as far as I know, so they hit you on random pieces. But from my experience non-targeted attacks have a higher chance to hit chest or legs than they have to hit other pieces of armor.

Message Edited by Eskie on 08-07-2005 08:53 PM

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HayabusaN wrote:

The armor break reduction slice is to make the armor break less effective It will stick regardless but 75% armor break reduction means that the percentage of the armor break being done I.E. armor break, improved armor break is reduced by 75%. Most of the time jedi wont use body hit or head hit unless you are on a speed buff or your saber is really fast because adv saber throw and power attack are the 2 best ones Thats why some jedi do adv saber throw point blank because the modifier on it is higher than the body hit leg hit and head hit.

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So If i have full mabari armor, which is only three peices to cover all, and i hav 75% armor break reduction, this would be just as good as having full reb marine armor with the same resistances with 75% armor break for the whole suit? I know the mab would decay faster but the effect would be the same?

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OrizCore wrote:

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HayabusaN wrote:

The armor break reduction slice is to make the armor break less effective It will stick regardless but 75% armor break reduction means that the percentage of the armor break being done I.E. armor break, improved armor break is reduced by 75%. Most of the time jedi wont use body hit or head hit unless you are on a speed buff or your saber is really fast because adv saber throw and power attack are the 2 best ones Thats why some jedi do adv saber throw point blank because the modifier on it is higher than the body hit leg hit and head hit.

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So If i have full mabari armor, which is only three peices to cover all, and i hav 75% armor break reduction, this would be just as good as having full reb marine armor with the same resistances with 75% armor break for the whole suit? I know the mab would decay faster but the effect would be the same?

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Great thread guys, bump for others to read.

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Tucheck wrote:

To use this question for practical terms...I want to get an Armor Break slice, should I slice the helmet, leg armor, or body armor? Of course I want to slice all 3, but do I need to get ALL my pieces of Armor sliced to prevent any extra damage from effecting me? Or is it merely based on subsequent attacks AFTER the Armor Break Special has been used.

I.E.

A Jedi uses Improved Armor Break (what part of the body is effected), now if the Jedi follows up with an Improved Saber Body Hit, and I have an Armor Break slice on my Chest plate, I SHOULD see a reduction in the normal amount of damage that WOULD have been done without an Armor break slice...correct? Okay, well what if the Jedi follows that up with an advanced Saber Throw? If I don't have an Armor break slice on THAT piece of armor, that means the FULL damage of the Armor break is going to be done...am I correct?

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It is based on the subsequent attacks, in that AB does not stick to a specific armor part. It's more like a state, any subsequent hits will consider the armor part they were directed at (some are random, some are specific). So in other words, you'd have to slice em all, if you don't have enough components atleast the first 25% reduction is free (doesn't require any loot).

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HayabusaN wrote:

The armor break reduction slice is to make the armor break less effective It will stick regardless but 75% armor break reduction means that the percentage of the armor break being done I.E. armor break, improved armor break is reduced by 75%. Most of the time jedi wont use body hit or head hit unless you are on a speed buff or your saber is really fast because adv saber throw and power attack are the 2 best ones Thats why some jedi do adv saber throw point blank because the modifier on it is higher than the body hit leg hit and head hit.

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Ah thanks

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Eskie wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:
As I'm sure most BHs* are now aware of the newer armor slicing methods, something occured to me. What Saber attacks effect which piece of armor:

In my hunts I have found that many MLS Jedi like to use the SAME combo of attacks:

Advanced Saber Throw (SPAM)
Improved Armor Break
Improved Power Saber Attack
Improved Saber Body Hit
Improved Saber Head Hit

Now the last two make sense, they hit body and head armor. However, what about the top 3?

To use this question for practical terms...I want to get an Armor Break slice, should I slice the helmet, leg armor, or body armor? Of course I want to slice all 3, but do I need to get ALL my pieces of Armor sliced to prevent any extra damage from effecting me? Or is it merely based on subsequent attacks AFTER the Armor Break Special has been used.

I.E.

A Jedi uses Improved Armor Break (what part of the body is effected), now if the Jedi follows up with an Improved Saber Body Hit, and I have an Armor Break slice on my Chest plate, I SHOULD see a reduction in the normal amount of damage that WOULD have been done without an Armor break slice...correct? Okay, well what if the Jedi follows that up with an advanced Saber Throw? If I don't have an Armor break slice on THAT piece of armor, that means the FULL damage of the Armor break is going to be done...am I correct?

I'm just trying to make educated decisions based on the infomation I believe I know, and follow it up with information provided in replies about issues I'm ignorant about.

Thanks in advance.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 08-07-2005 02:07 PM

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Saber Throw, Armor Break and Power Attack are not targeted specials as far as I know, so they hit you on random pieces. But from my experience non-targeted attacks have a higher chance to hit chest or legs than they have to hit other pieces of armor.

Message Edited by Eskie on 08-07-2005 08:53 PM

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Thanks for the reply...it's appericated. Anyone else want to confirm this?

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Tucheck wrote:
As I'm sure most BHs* are now aware of the newer armor slicing methods, something occured to me. What Saber attacks effect which piece of armor:

In my hunts I have found that many MLS Jedi like to use the SAME combo of attacks:

Advanced Saber Throw (SPAM)
Improved Armor Break
Improved Power Saber Attack
Improved Saber Body Hit
Improved Saber Head Hit

Now the last two make sense, they hit body and head armor. However, what about the top 3?

To use this question for practical terms...I want to get an Armor Break slice, should I slice the helmet, leg armor, or body armor? Of course I want to slice all 3, but do I need to get ALL my pieces of Armor sliced to prevent any extra damage from effecting me? Or is it merely based on subsequent attacks AFTER the Armor Break Special has been used.

I.E.

A Jedi uses Improved Armor Break (what part of the body is effected), now if the Jedi follows up with an Improved Saber Body Hit, and I have an Armor Break slice on my Chest plate, I SHOULD see a reduction in the normal amount of damage that WOULD have been done without an Armor break slice...correct? Okay, well what if the Jedi follows that up with an advanced Saber Throw? If I don't have an Armor break slice on THAT piece of armor, that means the FULL damage of the Armor break is going to be done...am I correct?

I'm just trying to make educated decisions based on the infomation I believe I know, and follow it up with information provided in replies about issues I'm ignorant about.

Thanks in advance.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 08-07-2005 02:07 PM

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Saberthrow, AB, and power attack arent targeted specials. They hit random armor pieces. AB reduces armor effectivness by a set amount. Therfore making say, 6500 armor 5000 or so. I dont know the exact numbers but i think its more than that for improved version. The reason for chaining headhit and leg hit or bodyhit and leghit are not for targeting purposes, but more for timeing. Bodyhit and leg hit are on differant timers to chaining them is the best way to get the most dmg out of the shortest period of time. And of course, Advanced saberthrow is also the only ranged KD LS jedi have since they removed the KD from Improved saberthrow. It is of course still quite a powerful attack which is a secondary reason to why its chained with headhit, leghit or bodyhit. In all im pretty sure that the named attacks do hit their named targets armor, but i cant confirm.

Message Edited by daetalus on 08-07-2005 12:29 PM

I was under the impression that an AB slice makes it 75% more likely NOT to stick, not 75% reduction of damage. Now im not sure, so what does it do?