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hey there

2 quick questions - not too sure if this is the right place to ask, but you guys seem to know guns rather well...

wondering about weapon speed..

1 - how does the speed you aquire through your professions affect the speed at which you fire your weapon?..

2 - is there a cap on weapon speed?.. i heard that 1.0 is the cap regardless - so a 1.0 pistol will fire at the same rate whether it's used by a novice marksman or a master pistoleer - is this true?..

thanks muchly if you can help

sin

There are differing reports. Some claim that weapon speed skill reduces your weapon delay by 0.1 for every 10 pts of speed. Others say it's a percentage change, which obviously can't scale up to 100 skill = 100% reduction in delay.

I haven't seen a lot of people posting test results confirming the 1.0 cap, but I also haven't seen people claiming to have gotten lower, so I guess that theory stands for now.

That's true that for regular shots, a 1.0 delay weapon will be the same regardless of weapon speed skill, BUT, most folks use special attacks almost all the time. And special attacks have a multiplier for both damage and delay. For example, I think I remember that BS2 is 2.5x damage, and 1.75x delay. So the delay is now 1.7 or 1.8, and your weapon speed skill as a more skilled user would the be able to give you a benefit over an unskilled newbie.

that is of course if weapon speed is factored into the specials and doesn't just modify the base speed of the weapon...

thanks for your answer though

looks like we have something else that's not yet understood...

sin

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sinfoxx wrote:

looks like we have something else that's not yet understood...

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I suspect sometime over the course of the next months, more information about this will be released from the Developers and in turn, players will slowly begin to wean off of the speed hype. For now, I'm seeing little reason why anyone would prefer a 1.x speed gun over a 2.x speed gun with higher min/max damage to make the DPS equal. Especially considering it will only lower the condition of your gun at a faster rate, and drain your HAM bars as you're using Special Moves at a heightened pace, regardless of the possibilities of the speed being capped out.

I bet we'll be seeing speed easily capping out in the near future.

That info I gave about the special attack speed multipliers and how weapon speed skill factors in was from a reported test on these forums. I forget who it was, but they posted some pretty nice data and it looked like a well run test. It showed that your speed skill was applied AFTER the multiplier was applied to your weapons skill. So you're looking at:

((Weapon speed - powerup modification) * Special attack Modifier) - weapon speed skill adjustment

And that whole thing is capped at 1.0.

There are some arguments ongoing though. One is whether the weapon speed skill adjustment is skill / 10 (50 skill = 0.5 reduction in delay), or whether it's a percentage based adjustment. Another ongoing discussion is whether a skill above 100 helps or not. I've seen a couple "it doesn't" posts, and another quite adament "I have it, it does" post.

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