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Thread: Deadtech questions on mbh/mch template

JBCrichton
Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:22 am
#1

I am a MBH/MCH/CM4000 and due to the fact i love being a CH as well as BH i don't want to give up either. With that I haven't delved into the "Jedi Hunting" role of the bounty hunter. I've been told this isn't a good template for hunting jedi but was wondering if any others out there use the same as I and do hunt jedi. I am in full agreement that NPC hunting is very effective with creatures and i use it often. (btw do you know which pets wild you can learn good attacks from such as intimidating attack and others like that?)

Great to find someone else in the game with the same template rather than MBH/Mrifles, MBH/Mpistols, or MBH/MCM, etc.



They say you should never hit a person with a closed fist, but on occasion it can be hillaroius.
Govo
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:36 am
#2

Im MCH/MBH and like you I love both and would rather not give up either. Actually last night I had my first kill (2nd mark I actually fought) Although I know its gonna be harder then other temps I still think its viable.


Im still tryin to work out a pet combo. Right now im using a lvl 70 with 8k health and hits for like 110-450 or so (he doesnt have any specials yet). Because he always only hits for his min im leaning to using 3 pets with a higher combined min damage output. Im thinking once trained with specials, they can apply all the states and free me up to spam adv crit or something like that.


After my first kill I really have the jedi hunting bug!



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Marssk
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:40 am
#3

with good twin or triplet pets you can have awesome DPS. Im currently a level 60, and i dueled a few jedi...while I got incaped in a few hits, my pets still put up quite a fight


so CH isn't as bad as everybody makes it out to be.





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Govo
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:45 am
#4






Marssk wrote:

with good twin or triplet pets you can have awesome DPS. Im currently a level 60, and i dueled a few jedi...while I got incaped in a few hits, my pets still put up quite a fight


so CH isn't as bad as everybody makes it out to be.








Ya, my first fight I lost. It seems he was one of the best jedi on our server, but after I went down my pet fought on for a bit. His friends who were there were congratulating my pet



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Marssk
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:48 am
#5






Govo wrote:





Marssk wrote:

with good twin or triplet pets you can have awesome DPS. Im currently a level 60, and i dueled a few jedi...while I got incaped in a few hits, my pets still put up quite a fight


so CH isn't as bad as everybody makes it out to be.








Ya, my first fight I lost. It seems he was one of the best jedi on our server, but after I went down my pet fought on for a bit. His friends who were there were congratulating my pet





I'd recommend either 2 level 35's or 3 level 23's. Way better damage than a single pet. Especially if you're the oen getting hit, then they wont die



Osskzzi Kussh
Imp-chasing Lizard
Nuke Smedley
Force In-Sensitive MMO Developer
WenBo
Shady Smuggler


JBCrichton
Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:52 pm
#6

bump, still waitin to hear from deadtech



They say you should never hit a person with a closed fist, but on occasion it can be hillaroius.
JBCrichton
Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:26 pm
#7

bump again



They say you should never hit a person with a closed fist, but on occasion it can be hillaroius.
JBCrichton
Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:17 am
#8


I use 3 bio engineered kwi triplet combos for npc hunting and they work great for that, even on boss marks who would rather attack me than the pets who are dishing out the damage on him. I also use for weapons: rifle=Covert Retalliation (necro drop sliced for damage), carbine=proton carbine although after reading some of these posts i'm thinking about switching to nym's carbine, and for a pistol=scatter all the way. I'm also FS so i use the force crystal to boost my health by another 2000, two hour last once per day though. I have a set of BE rancors lvl 35 which are pretty good too, but 3 pets always beat two imo.



They say you should never hit a person with a closed fist, but on occasion it can be hillaroius.
JBCrichton
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:18 pm
#9

bump, lol where is deadtech?






They say you should never hit a person with a closed fist, but on occasion it can be hillaroius.
Govo
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:53 pm
#10






JBCrichton wrote:

bump, lol where is deadtech?








Who is Deadtech?Is he/she like the uberist of uber MBH/MCH?



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TonieStark
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:23 pm
#11

I was 12-0 with my MBH MCH wookie named mawl before i retired him to alife of NPC looting (I hunt Jedi now with Tonie).


It is going to be harder but if you are disciplined in your attacks you can succeed. I got a full temp second time out with Mawl using a level 69 Gaping Spider Hunter that was doing about 150-300 points of damage every few seconds, it was like a DOT from hell.The pet also caused confusion.


Here are simple tips that can make ANY template (yes inlcuding Master Dancer) succesful with MBH:


I do not fight like I advise anymore (I can now run up to a Jedi and just start blazing away with success) but that has come with getting more experience, what I recommend here is what you should do for the first 10 kills or so, then you can start to develop your own style and tactics....

1. only attack if you have achieved complete and utter surprise.(meaning you can frontload a alot of damage). This will guarantee the jedi to be in a defensive position after the the first strike. You have forced him to think of only two things at this point, running or healing first AND then coming after you. .

2. Only engage if the Jedi, in addition to being completely surprised, is not buffed or his force is down, or he is engaed by MOBS or creatures. Even if you achieve utter surprise like #1 above but the jedi is not in a tough spot (in other words he is buffed and not distracted or engaged by other PvE activities) you can still lose dramatically even if you cause massive damage before reaction, so DON'T engage and follow this rule.


If you follow these two rules and drop the mission whenever you can not engage with these parameters, you will achieve success . There is nothing wrong in doing this. This is the BH way and Jedi's are 1.5 stronger for this reason.

3. Learn about foods and how they best compliment your personal template, seek out high energy resit armor, slice it for Armor break if possible. Find a good weapon with high damage that you can slice for speed. Add a power up to the weapon to let it produce even more damage (so cap damage with weaponsmith and Power up, slice speed).

4. Add a duelist macro (this is very important as it adds 250+ defense) this will help alot as well :

/duelists;
/pause 26;
/alarmaddin 0 0 STOP, DUELIST!!
/pause 1;
/macro Duelist

Be sure to use the following for deathblow so that the macro does not interfere:

/dump
/deathblow






Mawl: Wookie Rebel Jedi
Tonie Stark: Imperial Bounty Hunter
82 Jedi Killed
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JBCrichton
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:23 am
#12

wow, awesome info there guys thanks! Deadtech was just the first guy i noticed on the BH threads who used mbh/mch so that was who i aimed the post at, i don't really know if he's good or not, lol. Also, what droids work the best? I've got a probe droid and it falls to pieces in one hit everytime so i no longer use it.



They say you should never hit a person with a closed fist, but on occasion it can be hillaroius.
Govo
Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:43 pm
#13






TonieStark wrote:

I was 12-0 with my MBH MCH wookie named mawl before i retired him to alife of NPC looting (I hunt Jedi now with Tonie).


It is going to be harder but if you are disciplined in your attacks you can succeed. I got a full temp second time out with Mawl using a level 69 Gaping Spider Hunter that was doing about 150-300 points of damage every few seconds, it was like a DOT from hell.The pet also caused confusion.


Here are simple tips that can make ANY template (yes inlcuding Master Dancer) succesful with MBH:


I do not fight like I advise anymore (I can now run up to a Jedi and just start blazing away with success) but that has come with getting more experience, what I recommend here is what you should do for the first 10 kills or so, then you can start to develop your own style and tactics....

1. only attack if you have achieved complete and utter surprise.(meaning you can frontload a alot of damage). This will guarantee the jedi to be in a defensive position after the the first strike. You have forced him to think of only two things at this point, running or healing first AND then coming after you. .

2. Only engage if the Jedi, in addition to being completely surprised, is not buffed or his force is down, or he is engaed by MOBS or creatures. Even if you achieve utter surprise like #1 above but the jedi is not in a tough spot (in other words he is buffed and not distracted or engaged by other PvE activities) you can still lose dramatically even if you cause massive damage before reaction, so DON'T engage and follow this rule.


If you follow these two rules and drop the mission whenever you can not engage with these parameters, you will achieve success . There is nothing wrong in doing this. This is the BH way and Jedi's are 1.5 stronger for this reason.

3. Learn about foods and how they best compliment your personal template, seek out high energy resit armor, slice it for Armor break if possible. Find a good weapon with high damage that you can slice for speed. Add a power up to the weapon to let it produce even more damage (so cap damage with weaponsmith and Power up, slice speed).

4. Add a duelist macro (this is very important as it adds 250+ defense) this will help alot as well :

/duelists;
/pause 26;
/alarmaddin 0 0 STOP, DUELIST!!
/pause 1;
/macro Duelist

Be sure to use the following for deathblow so that the macro does not interfere:

/dump
/deathblow








I really only disagree with one point in tactics. Combined min damage is all that matters with pets...i.e., 1 CL 70 does like 110-120 min damage, 3 CL 23's do like 150-175 combined min damage. Add the fact that 3 pets and a droid create some serious confusion hehe. Also, depending on the states u like to use, stacking ur pets to do a bleed, stun, blind kinda combo will keep a jedi freakin out lol. (for example) leaving u to spam crit hits and heal yourself as needed.


Obviously it doesnt work always. Thing is with CH, there are soo many combos of specials to use with diff lvl pets.





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