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Thread: if you can't beat them, join them

Duckforce
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:10 pm
#1


was just playing around in the character builder...


and decided to see what those jedi's have of power....


then i thought... hmmm what if a bounty hunter learned their filthy tricks, while staying true to the bounty hunter path?


So i created a MBH, Master Defender.


Melee defense : 350

Ranged defense : 355


will a bounty hunter in armor and with a gun, still get the defense values, or is it just the innate jedi armor that drops away??

and have anyone tried this?


if this would stick up and still do damage, it could be interesting to see the jedi'swhine about why he takes so little damage....


anyways, BH, don't flame me.. i'm on your side and sticking to it. But jedi's, bring it on.



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Eleutherios
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:13 pm
#2

The defense values apply even with armor and guns. The innate Jedi armor does not.



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Duckforce
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:21 pm
#3

so that would actually be a pretty tough bountyhunter to take down... its more than +100 defense of normal bh templates...
but would it even be viable as a character?

Message Edited by Duckforce on 08-10-2005 08:21 AM



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Through whines, you gain gankings.
Gankings, leads to sploits.
Sploits leads to banning.
And banning sets us free.
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Eleutherios
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:22 pm
#4

You won't be a damage dealer, and you have no healing. You'll go down eventually.



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Duckforce
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:25 pm
#5

did put in force healing 1000


so there would be healing...





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Through nerfing, they gain whines.
Through whines, you gain gankings.
Gankings, leads to sploits.
Sploits leads to banning.
And banning sets us free.
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NoStyleGuy
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:26 pm
#6

yah i think the problem is this: Its fairly easy to kill jedi who dont have Mdefender or Mlightsabers (god forbid both) with a normal BH template. once u get a MLS or MDef, or MLS/MDEF theres nothing besides uber l337 skills to help u. U get his defenses? fine but u lose in th offense and healing. u pic up MCM for healing? fine but u lose alot of Defense. u pick up MRifles? fine but u lose alot of healing.. Just hard



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Eleutherios
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:27 pm
#7

You need a snare or a root, and lots of healing. If they're MDef and have lots of healer, don't expect your damage to kill them, expect them to die due to lack of Force.



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Jadeddy
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:27 pm
#8

1000 is only 500, get 3000 atleast if you can, now that template would be UBER



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Duckforce
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:35 pm
#9

if one did that, you would get something like this


Bounty Mission Difficulty +3
Burst Run Efficiency +40
Camping +5
Creature Harvesting +15
Creature Knowledge +5
Droid Precision +130
Droid Speed +90
Droid Tracking Speed +80
Force Defense +30
Force Power Max +2600
Force Power Regeneration +23
Force Vehicular Acceleration +3
Force Vehicular Control +20
General Ranged Accuracy +97
General Ranged Speed +52
Innate Jedi Armor +34
Jedi State Defense +50
Luck +4
Mask Scent +70
Melee Defense +270
Ranged Defense +285
Terrain Negotiation +40
Tracking Droid Effectiveness +100
Tracking Droids +12
Trapping +5

that's MBH, Defense 4414, Healing 3000

loosing too much defense...



The SoE code :
SOE improvement is a lie, there is only nerfing.
Through nerfing, they gain whines.
Through whines, you gain gankings.
Gankings, leads to sploits.
Sploits leads to banning.
And banning sets us free.
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Eleutherios
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:39 pm
#10

How about MBH/Some normal prof/Just enough Enhancer to cloak. It would be awesome to sneak up to a Jedi while cloaked.



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Duckforce
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:53 pm
#11

what about this then :


MBH, CM 4000, Pistoleer 0001, Force 04000


Healing, damage, defense and force cloak




The SoE code :
SOE improvement is a lie, there is only nerfing.
Through nerfing, they gain whines.
Through whines, you gain gankings.
Gankings, leads to sploits.
Sploits leads to banning.
And banning sets us free.
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Eldrikk
Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:44 am
#12

I would go with MBH / 0004 Pistols / 4000 CM / 2000 Enhancer for force run 1 and haste.


With the other tactics you cant use a clicky force move and wear armor at the same time but force run 1 doesnt reduce damage like its 2 and 3 plus you can activate it then put on your armor.


With this you will gain enough speed to be able to easily kite that Jedi.





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blomax
Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:27 am
#13


well i am bh/jedi and I can say you definitely want some ranged prof with bh to increase your damage, or you wont be able to kill a jedi, only scratch him. my template is


MBH/Carb 0200 (for snare + accuracy, very important vs knights)


Healer 4000


Defender 0020 (basically making up for not wearing armor... you have to make sure force aura and duel stance are up all time)


enhancer 0003 (channel force is imperative fo pve, and usefull for those drawn out fights)


I am sure this can be tuned here and there, but basically I can hold out against a full knight, but sooner or later theyusually escape because I cannot finish them (not enough dam). If you go mdef, I suspect this only gets worse. PVE though this template is great, and so far other bhs going for me where no big threat (though most of them are respecs with no idea of tactics and bad equipment - once they learn the trade, they might offer a challenge).



Thinking about picking up force cloak, but then I have to drop something else and will become basically a lot weaker... maybecloak with rifle would be the best then.




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