Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: House sitting maybe we should drop the argument?
Ent's would love it and the general populace wouldnt mind either because it would reduce spam.
Those itd affect are the AFK grinders and honestly who gives a damn about a player hwo doesnt actually play the game?
Just run thru once then press an f key to trigger the next iteration.
Create 1 macro per crafting tool, press button to start it.
Same thing as before but doesnt auto loop.
Not exactly a hardship.
Um..... removing the command /macro <name> will not stop recursive macro's
You can still do it with the tool bar... Create the macro, place it on the tool bar, put the last command as that toolbar slot, and BAM, recursive macro NOT using the /macro <name> method. I really don't see how it would solve anything though.
So a Jedi is in a house, so what? Drop the mission, or leave, you sure aren't going to fight them then. I'm more for removing a Jedi from the terminal who is AFK or idle.
FYI - Not all Jedi run to their private homes and go afk. I have 2 Jedi, 1 full template and 1 almost there. I always thought house sitting was a lame thing to do.
When I was MBH I only experienced it once. As a Jedi I like to hold by the old golden rule of "Do unto others". Now that doesn't mean I'm gonna stand there and become content since I have something to lose and the BH doesn't. I don't enjoy PvP, so I avoid it if I can. But you won't find me swimming, hiding in a battlefield or afk in one of my homes. I don't send or reply to hate tells and I don't go showing off my glow-stick either. You won't find me dueling in Bestine/Coronet/Theed nor Meditating in a cantinna.
I think if more players were respectful of others this issue would go away. I honestly believe there's 10% of the Jedi population that goes around causing the problems that the rest of us have to deal with. I also believe it's only 10% of the BH community that gives them a bad name as well. Most BH'ers that I've dealt with (or have come after my buddies) are good folk, don't grief/flame/hate, and would just like to have a good old fashioned 1 on 1 fight. It's that 10% UB3R L33T crowd that fans the fires of hate and grief.
If I do end up in a fight it begins with a /bow4 and ends with a "/t BH Goodfight"
/bowRespectfully
One of myconcerns with house sitters isnt the Jedi now, but the Smugglers in the future...one day we may be able to hunt them in a system both sides want. When/If that day ever comes, we could potentially have others that attempt to "cheat the system". Resolving the 'issue' now could make a better experience for many later.
On the issue if Crafter AFK grinding, I see that as a multi-tiered issue. First, there isn't enough value to crafters to make lower level items, so Craftes simply want to grind thru it as fast as possible to get to the good stuff. If there was greate value to these items then Carfters would want to put in the time to make them well. Secondly, Crafting grinding could be "automated" thru the use of droids. The droid could be programmed to accept the crafting commands (a subset of the total available commands) and perform the grinding actions for the Crafter, and still give the Crafter the XP. This would actually help the Crafter by allowing him/her to go out and do something while the mindless grinding is going on - think of the droid as an employee of the Crafter. This would allow the crafter to still kinda do what they are doing now, but it takes away the overall AFK macroing issue that causes the house sitting "issue".
BTW, crafters cannot craft "afk". Due to the fact that they have to double-click the resources to truly craft AFK they would have to be using a third-party program which is a EULA violation which can result in permanent account lose.
Darth_Spike wrote:
One of myconcerns with house sitters isnt the Jedi now, but the Smugglers in the future...one day we may be able to hunt them in a system both sides want. When/If that day ever comes, we could potentially have others that attempt to "cheat the system". Resolving the 'issue' now could make a better experience for many later.
On the issue if Crafter AFK grinding, I see that as a multi-tiered issue. First, there isn't enough value to crafters to make lower level items, so Craftes simply want to grind thru it as fast as possible to get to the good stuff. If there was greate value to these items then Carfters would want to put in the time to make them well. Secondly, Crafting grinding could be "automated" thru the use of droids. The droid could be programmed to accept the crafting commands (a subset of the total available commands) and perform the grinding actions for the Crafter, and still give the Crafter the XP. This would actually help the Crafter by allowing him/her to go out and do something while the mindless grinding is going on - think of the droid as an employee of the Crafter. This would allow the crafter to still kinda do what they are doing now, but it takes away the overall AFK macroing issue that causes the house sitting "issue".
Darth_Spike wrote:
Vegitaa, I was refering to the 2 posters above that indicated that they use recursive macros to grind. I personally have never played a crafting profession, and only know of crafting thru making traps as a Scout when BH had to be master scout. If macros dont even work for crafters, then this is a moot issue anyway, and the Devs have no reason at all to not kill recursive macros. But it sounds like 2 posters here are doing using macros for crafting, so I only am attempting to find a solution that doesnt hurt those that legitimately use macros but takes them away from those that are misusing the feature.
No prob man, understood completely. But as an FYI you can out up your AFK tab while crafting of course, but actually "crafting" you need to be sitting at the keyboard. UNLESS you are using a crafting program (3rd party) that moves the mouse and double-clicks for you). Which can get you banned permanently.
It's not a valid arguement for keeping recursive macros. A valid arguement for that would be a Duelist Stance macro, a Force Aura Macro, a COB macro... these are standard fair for most combat professions these days. I'd say most combat professions have some sort of defensive/offensive skill that lasts 15seconds-10 minutes and needs to reapplied. Setting up a macro to do that for you (so you don't forget) is a good reason to keep recursive macro's.
As far as the AFK Jedi in homes, it's lame. I don't support it. But I don't support anything that is done for the intention of griefing (yeah, I know.. may not be considered griefing by some, but it's all in the perception). I will add though that recently I've been moving inventory all over the place due to the upcoming Bunker House I'm going to get. So what a BH PERCIEVES as me AFK in a home may just be me organizing the 400 items I have. My intent is to get organized, the BH may percieve it as "hiding" or "griefing".
Any change you make to someone using their own home is going to be badly recieved by the community. Of course the blame will fall on both the Jedi and the BH'ers. The community (crafters/entertainers/and newbies) will percieve it as "The Jedi abused the system" and "The BH'ers whined which nerf'ed how I spend my time". It's a no win situation no matter how you look at it and those that have used this "trick" will just find ways to continue to do it. (Following a pet in circles as said above, going afk in instanced dungeons like the corvette or avatar..etc..)