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Ilcbar
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:11 pm
#1
Ok so how does the new system work. Can you group up? Do you ever get a name? If no, how different and/or difficult is it without a name?
MasterOfEverything
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:12 pm
#2
You never get a name, so you cant really group up. And i dont think its really that different...you just have to check every jedi you see and make sure its not your mark.
Sucks that target macros dont work anymore though.
MyT_Chicken
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:51 pm
#3
MasterOfEverything wrote:
You never get a name, so you cant really group up. And i dont think its really that different...you just have to check every jedi you see and make sure its not your mark.
Sucks that target macros dont work anymore though.
Should names be on the Terminal? No they should not. Nameson the terms doesnothing but heartache, griefing, and Tabs (Meaning "Oh so and so is around this level I can kill them easy).
Should missions be "Defaulted"? Yes, this also prevent heartache and griefing. No one should have the right to pick a specific "Zone" of players. If a Jedi is on the Terms and is a full template, he should have just as much chance to get attacked then someone with a lower payout / template.
I'm very disappointed in the fact that BH's do not get names. For me, I don't care if I die....you know it's my own fault for getting visability (which will be fixed in the next patch). What frustrates me right now as of Pub 19 (And before) is the fact that many people would only go after a specific range of payout's.
I understand the whole mess of many thinking "there is to many Jedi..." blah. There are so many Jedi, because most people have been playing for 2 years, honestly I don't know what some people expected. All the "trouble makers" aren't the Paddy's but the full template people, they have nothing to lose and don't care...not only that but many people just don't go after them because they don't think they can win.
Me personally, I wish BH's would get the name somewhere, anywhere, but sadly that really wont work. Sadly if the name is given then BH's can still grief, camp, and tab Jedi. What I mean is, say you got the name from the Droid or the spynet guy, people would just drop the mission and get a new one, over and over again until they found that "Easy kill". And that's just not right IMO.
Sadly I don't see much that can be done about it to level the playing field other then what they are doing in Pub 20. Like I said any Jedi on the terminal should have the exact same chances of being hunted. Currently, that is not happening, and it's a real shame. Pub 20 will change all that, and I honestly think it's for the better of the game. All jedi on the Term should have a chance to get hunted and killed. Even if they have nothing to lose, everyone should have the same chances.
jafo1
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:57 pm
#4
Getting the Name after probe droid Search would be to much to ask??? Course the paddy trials should have NO name missions as well. You must kill a certain thing to get to your next lvl. But we cant tell you what it is. If this happend they would scrap it and you and I know it.
Ilcbar
Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:33 pm
#5
You know not getting a name on the terms is not as big a deal to me as not being able to group. If I pulled a mission on afull template pre-CU DJMthen I should be able to have some friends help. Currently it isn't easy but is possible and that is fine with me, if you want to take a gank squad of 5 BH's on one jedi it should take you near forever to do it. IMO we should get the mark's level of jedi skillsafter we send out an Akaryd droid and be able to add people to the group depending on that level (not CL). Currently I focus on a specific range $120-200k as those are good fights but I know I have a chance (120 is pretty low but I have a limited number of jedi to work with) but if I knew that if I pulled a full template I could recruit a buddy or twowithout that stupid refresh button I would go after them instead. I don't think it is too much to ask, jedi have been screaming over the fact that the the whole vis system has forced them into a solo profession so it is getting fixed with pub 20 (about time IMO) but with the ame publish they are forcing BH's to go solo and that doesn't make much sense to me.
MystraMage
Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:29 pm
#6
MyT_Chicken wrote:
MasterOfEverything wrote:
You never get a name, so you cant really group up. And i dont think its really that different...you just have to check every jedi you see and make sure its not your mark.
Sucks that target macros dont work anymore though.
Should names be on the Terminal? No they should not. Nameson the terms doesnothing but heartache, griefing, and Tabs (Meaning "Oh so and so is around this level I can kill them easy).
so if the names were on the terminal there would be absolutly nothing positive about that, it wouldnt stop bh's from taking missions on their buds and realizing all the work they went through was worthless it wouldnt stop bh's who actualy llike a challenge from getting an even fight thats fair and makes the bh happy. nothing at all? please think it helps, alot.
MyT_Chicken
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:40 pm
#7
MystraMage wrote:
MyT_Chicken wrote:
MasterOfEverything wrote:
You never get a name, so you cant really group up. And i dont think its really that different...you just have to check every jedi you see and make sure its not your mark.
Sucks that target macros dont work anymore though.
Should names be on the Terminal? No they should not. Nameson the terms doesnothing but heartache, griefing, and Tabs (Meaning "Oh so and so is around this level I can kill them easy).
so if the names were on the terminal there would be absolutly nothing positive about that, it wouldnt stop bh's from taking missions on their buds and realizing all the work they went through was worthless it wouldnt stop bh's who actualy llike a challenge from getting an even fight thats fair and makes the bh happy. nothing at all? please think it helps, alot.
Actually I did think about it. ANY jedi who is on the terminal deserves to be hunted....If it's a lowbie, mid, full template it doesn't matter. After Pub 20, if your on the Term you should and will be hunted, it's really that simple. Currently the number of BH's that actually look for 225k+ is way smaller then those that look for 50k-200k+.
After Pub 20, if your a jedi and you end up on the Terms, it's your own d@mn fault, plain and simple. Now if BH's don't feel like killing a person because they are a low level so be it, but if a jedi is dumb enough to get on the terms after Pub 20, they get what they get.
Me Person, if I had a BH, and I wasted my time chasing a Jedi down, I'll be d@mned if I'm not gonna get my payout, but that's just my opinion.
LordMarr
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:26 pm
#8
alot of BHs, when they chase the waypoint to a jedi and find out he is a full on jedi knight will probably drop the mission since the odds are not very favorable. Jedi knights can be beaten by a bh, if the bh, can stalk and wait for the right time to attack, problem is you have to ID your target before your can attack which will alert any jedi and the first strike is pretty much gone. the jedi will prepare and be ready for you.
Example. i attacked a 225k jedi knight, he was not buffed and low on force. I was beating em bad, he complained that its not fair that he wasnt readyso he force ran away. He then comes back 20 minutes later, with doc buffs, food buffs, spice buffs, a few force buffs, ranged defense food, and a full bar of force. He asks me to attack em again and tells me he was ready now. i laughed at this notion that a bh has to give a jedi knight warning before he attacks. I withbuffs, foodand spice, agreed to test my theory that a ready and prepared jedi is a death wish for anyBH. I gave it my all out effort, I lasted 90 seconds tops.
In pub 20, forget about having much chance to surprise a jedi knight. It can happen, but it will be much more difficult.
dola-brun
Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:37 pm
#9
What frustrates me right now as of Pub 19 (And before) is the fact that many people would only go after a specific range of payout's.---egri
i hunt over 200k 99% of the time. but for you to say this is ridiculous. would a newly starting jedi grind against rancors? the answer is nope. so if you are a bh just starting and wanting to better your skills, it only makes sense to go after some low level padawans. i truly believe all the screaming about bh's grabbing the same mission over and over is just overblown by a few forum posters. i am not one for griefing so i can understand the frustration when it does happen. every profession in this game relies on levels and payouts to determine if a)it is worth it, and b)if there is a possibility of accomplishing the mission. so for you to say that you are frustrated by players going by a specific range of payouts is very misleading.
love always,
LordMarr
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:21 pm
#10
The devs are trying to fix a bh system that isnt broke, mission terminals that display online jedi and by what faction sounds good and more like an addition than a fix.Vague information on the payout and the no name of the bounty is absolutely retarded. I rather the Devs get rid of jedi hunting all together than to be subjected to this poor excuse for a player bounty system.
Positive note i heard that NPC missions are going to be at the correct level, so if i know the name of my NPC mark and how much he is worth, then atleast that is a normal bounty hunter system. I know who to look for, the risks that are involved and the how much im gonna get paid.
Ilcbar
Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:25 am
#11
The thing I still don't get is what will we do with all the marks on Kasshyyk post pub 20. As it is (knowing the name) finding a jedi on Kasshyyk is hardbut without us knowing the name it will be near impossible. Now think like a jedi, if there was a place where you know the chances of you getting killed is nil and the xp payout is good, where are you gonna go? IMO there are a couple things they can do if they plan to push this forward, turn off xp on Kasshyyk or make seekers work on Kasshyyk (showing instances as well). Without one of these two fixes jedi will grind in almost absolute safety and when they are full template they will venture off Kasshyyk knowing nothing about their profession in PvP and we will get nerfed cause they will die to easy.
Aeleb
Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:32 am
#12
First, these changes will benifit Lower level Padies mainly, second Since you will have to be MBH I think it only fair that you face a Jedi that is also master. Third its good to see you here as I was a wooks a long time ago 
Ilcbar
Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:53 am
#13
Well if it is to benefit low level paddies then just turn the freakin vis system off for them. With me not knowing the name it negates any stalkingorfirst strike capabilityI have andwith a full template mark you have to have both to win. What this will turn into will be a toe to toe fight every time with tactics being thrown out the window almost completely.
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