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Thread: DETONATION DROIDS QUESTION

Dizzey
Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:45 am
#1

Hi, I was wondering how difficult/complicated/expensive it is for droid engineers to build detonation droids.... as it stands, they seem nearly impossible to find and when I do find one, it is usually selling for 60k credits! It is simply not worth buying 1 droid that will inflict maybe 1500 damage to a jedi (and risk having it destroyed in 1 hit if the jedi sees the timer... or missing with it cus the jedi runs off in time) for such an insane price.


Are the resources for these rare or something? Heck, I'd be willing to buy dozens and dozens of these, but the way they are priced right now, it simply isn't worth it.... doesn't it make more sense to price them lower and sell them in greater numbers - that would mean much higher profits, one would think.
Ackdel
Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:52 am
#2


I sell crates of ten36 DP MSE ADV for 50k. Average damage to a Jedi on one of those should be around 1575.


R3's will always be expensive. A fully loaded R3 takes 42 components to make, and the detonation modules themselves require good Tolium gas, which is the expensive resource.


A full run of R3 chassis requires several days, several factories, and produces 123 R3 chassis. So it's just not feasible for a DE to price at very low profit margins and try to sell in bulk instead. Using some OQ 800+ Tolium, I made some 55-rated R3 ADV's and sold them out in a matter of hours at 75k. People were buying 10 at a time. One of those should have an average damage of 2400.


Making droids isn't like making guns. It's a very involved, time consuming process, requiring much time on the part of the DE. It's very, very difficult for us to bulk sell Exploding R3's while still making droids for our other customers. However, from your first post, you should be plenty happy with 10 exploding MSE's for 50k. I don't know if I'm on your server or not, but I bet if you make a post in your trade forums, some DE can help you out for around that price.

Message Edited by Ackdel on 08-12-2004 12:53 PM




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Dizzey
Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:42 am
#3

Ahhh.. all I have seen are R3 exploding droids, that's why they are so expensive.... yes, 50k for 10 MRE bomb droids is very fair for pricing and I'd buy LOTS of those.... now I just have to go find some on Bloodfin


Thanks.
gkn1ght
Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:13 am
#4

I see you are looking for det droids on Bloodfin send an ingame tell or e-mail to Isuma Jeddeye or CeeBazz one of us will get you the Det droids you need. Isuma is the supplier and Jeddeye and CeeBazz are the end users with mass amounts of them used daily and often.



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decoy33333
Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:15 pm
#5

how muchy would just the detonation modules run for? im a DE but not yet master. and r mse's the best thing to grind. im 1002. thx



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Buzz1096
Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:40 am
#6

I'd say most of the cost is the modules. I wouldnt expect to make a lot of margin if you buy the modules from an MDE,but its better than getting nothing back. Also, BHs tend to like to buy these in crates and you get no xp for factory runs.


I wouldnt let my 9.5 rated det modules go for less than 2500 each.



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Eege
Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:31 am
#7

Since were on the subject. I just created some detination modules, 17 detination power. This seems like a low number to me, however I hope not since I made a butt load of them.


Can someone tell me if this is a good number, average, or a waste of perfectly good resources? Seems a MSE with only 17 power isn't that great. ADV MSE would give me 34. (sounds about average though)


Any help here? Please?



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Wulfman_GA
Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:53 am
#8

Looks like your actual Detonation Modula has a rating of 7 (you see +10 on an MSE and + 20 on and ADV MSE) when you install them. Often you don't get much better the 7 or 8, though really good modules are around 9. Tolium gas often doesn't get that good, so this isprobably your limitation.


As for DE's selling Modules, this doesn't happen very often. Mostly because only other DE's can use them and I noticed that when you have them on your vendor some people (not DE's) buy them and then wonder what to do with it.


Try to find a Master DE that crafts you a factory schematic or tow if you are a starting out DE. This helped me getting started in DE business and if you bring your own resources and use your own factory time you may find a helpful DE.





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ravingbantha
Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:30 pm
#9

While we are on the subject, i have a side question about det droids. What isthe major difference between a MSE droid and an R3 when it comes down to it...
Straker_Atrella
Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:55 pm
#10

An R3 will do more damage then the MSE basically.


Figure 150-200 damage per detonation point, you cna use 175 as an average. For PVP factor in the 75% damage reduction.


So 57 in an R3is a decent amount better then the 39 in an MSE. However, you pay far more for the R3.


The real difference is when people are Jedi hunting. An MSE may or may not kill an unbuffed Jedi, depending on the damage done. The R3 will smoke him, even with minimum damage.


Both are good and have their uses though.



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IlVentu
Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:40 am
#11

On Chimaera I sell R3 Adv. Model 51-52 det power at 49k credits and crates of mouse droids with 37 det power at 45k.
Esquire24
Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:19 pm
#12

I had purchased several BH detonation MSE droids before the combat upgrade. When I try to use them now, I get a message stating that the droid has no detonation module. Any ideas how to fix this?




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Hnglka
Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:08 pm
#13






Esquire24 wrote:

I had purchased several BH detonation MSE droids before the combat upgrade. When I try to use them now, I get a message stating that the droid has no detonation module. Any ideas how to fix this?





they're bugged. only thing you can do is hold onto them and hope for a script fix by the devs.



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