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Thread: MBH / MDOC

ragebenelli
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:05 am
#1

Helooooooooo!


Pre 19 i was this template and i had a 225k mark that i lasted 15 minutes with, i almost had him 2wice but stupid db macro failed me, he finally got my mind down and i was toast. (doc could only heal 800 tops then)


Post 19 i was this same template and i had a 225k mark that i lasted 5 minutes with, i never had a chance, and he was able to hit me for 1.5k dammage every time he rooted me also he drained my mind so fast doing this much damage i couldnt keep up. (doc could heal for 1585 now).


Question:


Am i missing something? i thought pub 19 was toning down jedi stuff and ramping up doctor stuff? Furthermore, am i way off with this template or what?





Sigs are a tool of the oppressor...............
Chumbawumba
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:08 am
#2

MBH MCM
tuffness55
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:15 am
#3

pub 19 toned down jedi heals, but increased damage for jedi.

ragebenelli
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:18 am
#4

thanks for the replies,



about the template question, am i way off? the only way i can see standing toe to toe, with any jedi is to be able to heal yourself, a lot. hence doctor.


But i suppose the mbh mc can outdamage a jedi? i dont know, comments?






Sigs are a tool of the oppressor...............
bikebum
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:24 am
#5

MCM can mez, snare,health dot, debuff attack speed, action regen, mind regen and heal themselves. I have not used it on a Jedi post-19, but I am assuming it is still effective regardless of their damage output now. Actually with being weaker in healing than before it may actually be more effective.
bikebum
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:26 am
#6






ragebenelli wrote:

thanks for the replies,



about the template question, am i way off? the only way i can see standing toe to toe, with any jedi is to be able to heal yourself, a lot. hence doctor.


But i suppose the mbh mc can outdamage a jedi? i dont know, comments?








And I don't think that "standing toe to toe" with a Jedi is the best tactic for beating them atm.
Arywin
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:34 am
#7

Actually I'm a MBH/MDoc myself. I always wondered why I never saw moreplayers with thisoption. Since we can tank decently and have good damage capabality, I wondered why having a massive buffer and healer wouldn't compliment our profession. I assumed we would be unstoppable. Am I also missing something? I see a lot of MBH/MPistoleers...MBH/MRifleman...MBH/MCarbineer.... with maybe some CM thrown into the mix, but why not more MBH/MDoc? Can anyone steer me in the right direction?


Cypher Ares
lordnobleus
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:47 am
#8


I never understood why all the bh templates on this forum never had healing. pre publish 19 i spent 2 hours writing a post defending why you need to have some cm but then i figured screw it cause people would just say all the needed was ruby bliel and stims which i have tested and isNOT the answer. anyways since publish 19 most definitely the best template imho is mbh mcm and one elite ranged prof line. or you can go mbh cm4004 and then whatever else you want.the key to beating a jedi is outlasting their force bar plain and simple. sure anyone can pwn a paddy but what fun is that unless you like bragging? if you want to be a serious hunter you have to build to fight knights.


anyways a bit of info about the 4th line of cm. in the 4th line of cm you get paralyze, electroltye, and thyroid rupture which are the 3 best cm moves. paralyze will save you arse plain and simple. electrolyte is the best snare in the game lasting 2minutes plus and thyroid rupture will slow them down by 40pts of speed. i'm master cm because i want a 15 second paralyze not the 8 second one you get at non master.


so if you want to stay alive and actually have a hope of beating down knights one on one, at bare minimum you need cm4000. if you want to have a better chance then cm4004. even better chance at mcm. i'm going to kick myself for posting this because i know mbh mcm will now be the new FOTM and hence will get nerfed very soon. oh well. i will enjoy it while it lasts. feel free to hit me up in game with any questions.




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roydogg
Hav0c
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:55 am
#9






lordnobleus wrote:


I never understood why all the bh templates on this forum never had healing. pre publish 19 i spent 2 hours writing a post defending why you need to have some cm but then i figured screw it cause people would just say all the needed was ruby bliel and stims which i have tested and isNOT the answer. anyways since publish 19 most definitely the best template imho is mbh mcm and one elite ranged prof line. or you can go mbh cm4004 and then whatever else you want.the key to beating a jedi is outlasting their force bar plain and simple. sure anyone can pwn a paddy but what fun is that unless you like bragging? if you want to be a serious hunter you have to build to fight knights.


anyways a bit of info about the 4th line of cm. in the 4th line of cm you get paralyze, electroltye, and thyroid rupture which are the 3 best cm moves. paralyze will save you arse plain and simple. electrolyte is the best snare in the game lasting 2minutes plus and thyroid rupture will slow them down by 40pts of speed. i'm master cm because i want a 15 second paralyze not the 8 second one you get at non master.


so if you want to stay alive and actually have a hope of beating down knights one on one, at bare minimum you need cm4000. if you want to have a better chance then cm4004. even better chance at mcm. i'm going to kick myself for posting this because i know mbh mcm will now be the new FOTM and hence will get nerfed very soon. oh well. i will enjoy it while it lasts. feel free to hit me up in game with any questions.







Surely though, you lose a lot of accuracy and speed? I am MBH/MCarb/MMarks and Pistol 0003 which is very good offense, i admit i am light on defense but i tried CM 4000 and it didnt suit me. I was slow and missed too much.



Watph Brilo
Master Bounty Hunter

'I am Jack's broken heart'
bikebum
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:55 am
#10






Hav0c wrote:


Surely though, you lose a lot of accuracy and speed? I am MBH/MCarb/MMarks and Pistol 0003 which is very good offense, i admit i am light on defense but i tried CM 4000 and it didnt suit me. I was slow and missed too much.






Does that really matter when you have a 2min snare and the CM's regen debuffs? In 2 minutes of being out of range of their sabres you can do some serious damage while they do minimal damage and drain tons of force.
Hav0c
Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:40 am
#11






bikebum wrote:





Hav0c wrote:


Surely though, you lose a lot of accuracy and speed? I am MBH/MCarb/MMarks and Pistol 0003 which is very good offense, i admit i am light on defense but i tried CM 4000 and it didnt suit me. I was slow and missed too much.






Does that really matter when you have a 2min snare and the CM's regen debuffs? In 2 minutes of being out of range of their sabres you can do some serious damage while they do minimal damage and drain tons of force.





So you are saying I was being half a$$ed and doing CM 4000 should have gone CM 4004? Damn. I knew I should have used my whole a$$......



Watph Brilo
Master Bounty Hunter

'I am Jack's broken heart'
WinstonX
Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:40 am
#12




Surely though, you lose a lot of accuracy and speed? I am MBH/MCarb/MMarks and Pistol 0003 which is very good offense, i admit i am light on defense but i tried CM 4000 and it didnt suit me. I was slow and missed too much.






you need healing in your template. i picked up cm 4000 when ruby biel was nerfed, and now i don't see how you could possibly keep it together in a fight with a fully templated jedi without some serious healing. i use 1100+ power instastims, and 1100 power enhancers, which heal for as much as 1500 with some healing efficiency. the new jedi supposed "i win" method is to root, armor break, and let you have it with the massive power attacks they've got not now. you can't do much about it without either just taking the brunt of the attacks while you heal, and/or use daze shots, kd's etc. fact is, without substantial healing you will not live for longer than a few minutes (if that) against a decent jedi
WinstonX
Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:41 am
#13






ragebenelli wrote:

Helooooooooo!


Pre 19 i was this template and i had a 225k mark that i lasted 15 minutes with, i almost had him 2wice but stupid db macro failed me, he finally got my mind down and i was toast. (doc could only heal 800 tops then)









is this true? are you using enhancers??? with my cm 4000 i was healing for a lot more than 800 before pub 19
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