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DayWalkerRori

Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:44 am

It nice too see that they finilly gona fix the Homesteaders..I wish they would kill the LoS bug on Kash or Kill off XP on Kash (This would be the better fix) and yes, I mean BH XP too for killing a Jedi there...It shouldnt be a grinding planet..It should be (as the DEVs have called it) a quest/adventure/loot planet.

They sould also bring back the Sabor TEF for Jedi showing, carringor playing with thereSticks in Major Citys..I also would include Jedi wearing there robes and/or using Force Powers...Sence, wewill nolonger beable to see a Jedi showing off in town or AFking on the Kash and go pullthere missions..

The TEF should be givin if they enter a city with a robe on, pull a sabor or use a force power..The TEF should last 5 mins and be attackable by Opp Faction members and BHs

Now, Im not talking PlayerCitys or in the Fields..Im talking major NPC Citys like coro, Mos Esiley, Theed,Etc...

The DEVs have said time and time again that Jedi should be in hiding and its high time they took steps to force them into hiding, not showing off in citys..The Story Line is all rdy shot to hell and they have written a new one when they started the Jedi Academy(FSV), DoubleXP, GroupingXPand places to grind like Kash and now, they add the Hidden Names/Payouts..Jedi arent forced into hiding there incurraged to play openly..

I remember the days when tracking a Jedi ment Tracking a well hid Jedi...Ive tracked to a house in the middle of nowhere on one planet and find my mark had logged out..The next time I tracked the Jedi when he was online his house was gone and moved to another place in the middle of nowhere on a different Planet..Jedi where afraide to lvl near citys cause of the Sabor/Force TEF..They really had to hide and look for Wild Spawns out in the middle of BFE on different planets...

I beleve if they would up Jedi XP for soloing and decrease JediXP for in groups we could atlease in a sence get Jedi back into hiding, lvling with other Jedi in romote areas and try to regain some kinda storyline to follow..This also would help with Paddys gaining so much Vis and help them stay off the boards..Right now where into a KOTOR/Jedi Academy Online..I would also be as bold as to say take jedi out of the GCW and give them there own Light vs Dark battles..They could have there war and we could have ours..

Noone finds it odd that if a Jedi gets caught in a scan a shuttle of Imperials decend and attack yet, the Emipre allows them into there ranks?

The DEVs seriously need to throw a writer board up on a wall, grab some coffee or go juice and create a Story Line to follow..We used to have one but, Now its just a open book that leads nowhere

Gohma_Manovich

Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:02 am

#2

DayWalkerRori wrote:

It nice too see that they finilly gona fix the Homesteaders..I wish they would kill the LoS bug on Kash or Kill off XP on Kash (This would be the better fix) and yes, I mean BH XP too for killing a Jedi there...It shouldnt be a grinding planet..It should be (as the DEVs have called it) a quest/adventure/loot planet.

They sould also bring back the Sabor TEF for Jedi showing, carringor playing with thereSticks in Major Citys..I also would include Jedi wearing there robes and/or using Force Powers...Sence, wewill nolonger beable to see a Jedi showing off in town or AFking on the Kash and go pullthere missions..

The TEF should be givin if they enter a city with a robe on, pull a sabor or use a force power..The TEF should last 5 mins and be attackable by Opp Faction members and BHs

Now, Im not talking PlayerCitys or in the Fields..Im talking major NPC Citys like coro, Mos Esiley, Theed,Etc...

The DEVs have said time and time again that Jedi should be in hiding and its high time they took steps to force them into hiding, not showing off in citys..The Story Line is all rdy shot to hell and they have written a new one when they started the Jedi Academy(FSV), DoubleXP, GroupingXPand places to grind like Kash and now, they add the Hidden Names/Payouts..Jedi arent forced into hiding there incurraged to play openly..

I remember the days when tracking a Jedi ment Tracking a well hid Jedi...Ive tracked to a house in the middle of nowhere on one planet and find my mark had logged out..The next time I tracked the Jedi when he was online his house was gone and moved to another place in the middle of nowhere on a different Planet..Jedi where afraide to lvl near citys cause of the Sabor/Force TEF..They really had to hide and look for Wild Spawns out in the middle of BFE on different planets...

I beleve if they would up Jedi XP for soloing and decrease JediXP for in groups we could atlease in a sence get Jedi back into hiding, lvling with other Jedi in romote areas and try to regain some kinda storyline to follow..This also would help with Paddys gaining so much Vis and help them stay off the boards..Right now where into a KOTOR/Jedi Academy Online..I would also be as bold as to say take jedi out of the GCW and give them there own Light vs Dark battles..They could have there war and we could have ours..

Noone finds it odd that if a Jedi gets caught in a scan a shuttle of Imperials decend and attack yet, the Emipre allows them into there ranks?

The DEVs seriously need to throw a writer board up on a wall, grab some coffee or go juice and create a Story Line to follow..We used to have one but, Now its just a open book that leads nowhere

from my perspective i think saber tef is right, when used correctly like you said for opposite faction members or BH, that would ass more pvp i need

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Dark_Eclipse

Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:32 am

#3

The Days of wild spawns and solo grinding are pretty much over..... People complained that 'solo' grinding was ruining the game so the CU made thechange that everyone 'wanted' and requires grouping. Grouping includes Jedi.

For a CL level 80 player that has just unlocked and only a training saber, it is impossible for them to grind alone....period. it could be suggested that a Jedi's strength could be increased at beginer Padawan (no jedi skills, just a training saber) to be able to solo grind equal CL80 mobs all day long alone.....no, sorry. People would get thier panties in a bunch because making Jedi stronger at such a low level would be a no no in the anti-jedi community. Having a that same CL 80 player with no real Jedi skills drop all of their previous skills just to lower their CL just makes them more vulnerable to BHers if the said padawan by some bad form of luck has a NPC spawn on them (like happens so often) is just no good as well. A new padawan relies on his old professions skills to much. not to fight...but just to have a chance to run from the mob that he's beating with his training toothpick.

Areas of Consistant, non-bugged CL appropriate level spawns are basically non-exsistant as well. (not going to include Kash in this....I'm against afk jedi XP grinding myselfBUT it's because of this fact that Spawns out in the middle of BFE DON'T spawn that Jedi grind on kash in the first place.) Jedi grind so close to cities because 90% of the time it's the only way of generating missions that them and the group they are with can take on and gain any type of reasonable XP.

And your comment of Jedi flaunting thier skills and waving their sabers around showing of offends me. You can also thank the CU for the crap profession Medic and Doctor has become. On my server there has been a huge influx of new players because of SOE's advertising. Because of this, Mos Eisley has become a teaming New Player congrigating point. Many of them generating huge amounts of wounds from trying out space or attempting to learn the game bu venturing out in groups hunting. in the past 3-4 weeks of my time visiting Mos Eisley I have yet to see even ONE Doctor offering thier assistance in helping heal the wounded. I myself have taken it upon myself to give part of my time away from helping my guild's lower level Padawan grind XP and level to go to Mos Eisley and use my skills to heal the wounded so that they can go back out and enjoy their game time. Am I flaunting my skills? Am I showing off? No, I'm doing what a Light Jedi Knight should by useing what skills I have availiable to me to help others. And if you feel I should be griefed and penalized for that, fine be it. Do what you must or do what you think you can to stop me from Helping others and doing what I think is enjoyable with my game time.

Call for nerfs and penalties and changes to my perfesion that runs it into the ground....because remember this:

Nerfs as well as crap rolls downhill, you can laugh at the people aboveyou when they get hit by the crap to your hearts delight, but remember that eventually the crap will keep rolling downhill and hit you too.

If the current Jedi changes and the upcoming BH changes don't show how true that statment is, I dont know what is.

Jedi and BH content are closely intertwined. Hurting us to drastic mesures only hurts yours and other professions in the long term. and concedering that SOE is pushing the "You can be a Jedi" theme in all it's advertising and in all the new player quests and tutorials, Jedi will never really become the paper thein profession the majority of the BH community so greatly wish it to be.

No single person, no single profession, no single group of people will EVER have thier cake and eat it too, that includes Jedi as well.

And yes, I am a Jedi. I am a Pre-CU Knight. But just because I am a "J3d-3y3" ( a term I have come to hate just as much as any other real life durogatory slur just because the use of 'J3d-3y3" is also said with the same amount of descrimatory hate and violence that seems to permiate both the Jedi and BH professions) does not mean I'm the stereotypical 'leet-dood' that everyone thinks a person who is a Jedi is behind the screen.

I'm a person behind the screen, a girl, who thought that being a Jedi was something more. And it is. Jedi just isn't what SOE programmed it to be. Jedi is what the Person behind is has made it.

I'm a helper, I play with my guildies, I PvE, I defend my player city from attacks, I heal the wounded, I grind XP along my friends even tho I no longer need the XP myself, I quest, I collect things, I decorate my house, I scocialize with those around me......

But, because I wear white robes, because I spent my time grind out huge amounts of ungodly XP, because I chose to use my skills to help others, because I chose to run instead of fighting the 5 man BH gank squads because it's pointless to fight even when I have a finished template....Because I chose to make my Jedi Profession mean something to ME, I have to deal with everyone who want to drive me, my hard work, my love of the game, my love of using my skills to help others into the ground. Into something that is useless to everyone including what I find enjoyable with my time in game.

If everyone continues to whine and call for nerfs, eventually, in the end.....SWG will no longer be a game, just a Chat Room with 3d pictures. For some professions, it's come close to being that already.

All I ask, is to think really long and hard before you cry out in frustration because something doesn't go your way.....before you yell out for changes to some other profession. Because like it or not, every thing, profession, .....every person is dependant or intertwined in some way here in this game.

Yes, I'm angry at the people who do play jedi to be uber and leet....but do you know what? I'm not willing to shoot myself in the foot to stop them. Because I value what I do have and what I can do. I've already had too much taken away from me as it is.

One last time so maybe it will sink in,

Nerfs as well as crap rolls downhill....

Now, if you will excuse me, I will go back to my peacefull PvE with my friends and helping and healing those in need.

____Ta-leise Eleise________________________
LIGHT JEDI KNIGHT

Wraith Squadron -WSQ-

Stimy

Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:41 am

#4

DayWalkerRori wrote:

They sould also bring back the Sabor TEF for Jedi showing, carringor playing with thereSticks in Major Citys..I also would include Jedi wearing there robes and/or using Force Powers...Sence, wewill nolonger beable to see a Jedi showing off in town or AFking on the Kash and go pullthere missions..

The TEF should be givin if they enter a city with a robe on, pull a sabor or use a force power..The TEF should last 5 mins and be attackable by Opp Faction members and BHs

Mind you that a tef like this would automatically start greafing. Jedi shows saber. Lots of dead BH. JEdi puts on robe for regen. More dead BH. Not being cocky cuz yes a lot of baby to mid level jedi will die. Personally ive taken out 4 BH at once and have dueled 6 and won. Putting a tef on me wil only bring my saber out more so i will be able to get more free PvP.

Fishie

D67

Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:53 am

#5

Stimy wrote:

. Personally ive taken out 4 BH at once and have dueled 6 and won.

This post is definatly screenshotted for future use when a Jedi whines about bieng "underpowered"

The Awnser is

Saber Tef allows Players to attack AND it summons an Unlimited HAM NPC (Vader) To slay the Jedi. (I think this was mentioned in the FRS Vision thread in the Jedi Forums)

- When Sony and Lucas set out, we said, 'How can we do this and not make another EQ?' We didn't want it to be all about Luke, or combat, or lock our players into a class.So we created a system that would allow players to switch professions during the game, and there would be a lot of gameplay around making that change.If you want to go from architect to scout we've created a system to make that happen."
- Julio Torres! -
History of the Smugglers - As written by the Devs
PLAYER INTERACTION is the banner the community needs to unite behind

Acheron5

Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:12 am

#6

BH's were never an effective constraint on the Jedi population since permadeath was removed from the game for a number of good reasons. Prior to the CU, what kept Jedi in hiding wasn't the threat of BH's but rather the threat of gaining visibility. A BH encounter on its own was a setback. But the reason Jedi didn't wear their robes or flash their lightblades in public was the prospect of earning visibility. The Jedi who did were disproportionatelly part of the FRS that encouraged this behavior, perplexingly enough.

The best way to "force" Jedi back into hiding is to bring back solo grinding. The threat of Jedi visibility is no longer an effective detriment to keeping Jedi from displaying in public. Contrary to what many BH's may believe, it wasn't the threat of BH that kept Jedi in hiding but the threat of gaining visibility. In the present system Jedi who are in training have no realistic alternative other then to group grind and therefore generate visibility. Since they have nothing to gain from a BH encounter and everything to lose, the smart option for them is to hide when a BH approaches. This is particularly the case with lower level Jedi who are, due to bottom feeding, the most frequent targets of BHs. Since visibility is a given in the post-CU era, Jedi strut around cities in the presence of other players with impunity. They've already gained visibility via group grinding and therefore have nothing further to lose from showing off.

A large proportion of players who would not be on the terms if they had the realistic option to solo grind have landed there in the last few months because they have no way of progressing in the game without group grinding. By and large, visibility is a vestigeal relic and a given for any Jedi who wishes to earn XP, something that was not the case prior to the CU. Jedi will hide not from other players but only if the system that is in place encourages them to hide by giving them an advantage in doing so.

Jargal

Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:42 am

#7

No one needs Jedi anymore. They don't do any special damage or high damage. Actually a rifleman does more damage output then a jedi. The skills they got we can get from other professions.

We don't need them in groups or guilds and thats how the devs things to be. Jedi are supposed to be a hermit, nonsocial profession. They got skills to heal/attack/escape and by that they on't need us regular professions either. They are ment to be solo.

Treat them that way.

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