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Message Edited by Opie76 on 08-18-2005 03:56 AM

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Opie76 wrote:

Just wondering if there are any ME/MBH hybrids out there.

Advantages: FR3 while wielding a weapon, ability to channel force and meditate, improved force armor, stasis, force drain.

Some Tactics you might use:You grab a jedi mission ,and find out who it is. You then learn your targets travel patterns. Have a friend Deathblow you and you lay there dead until the jedi comes by. Then you can use Self Rez to get up and start attacking.

Ho'mer

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FR3 = 99% damage reduction.....

I know jedi damage is reduced, but I didn't think it would apply to non jedi dmg. Still even with reduced dmg there is the toggle to turn it on and off. A bh would have alot easier time catching a runner if he himself also has FR3.

To use any Force abilities, you would need to be wearing no physical armor. This limits you to Force Armor which drains your Force. On top of that, self rez costs 1000 Force to use. That will instantly take your 2800 Force down to 1800. Force Run 3 costs 500 Force each time you activate it and has 99% damage reduction on any damage you do whilst Force Run is active. So that would put you down to 1300 Force and you haven't even attacked the Jedi yet. So you want to use stasis, again, this costs 325 Force per use. Thats you now down to 850 Force. Improved Force Armor Costs 0.05 Force per 1 point of damage absorbed. A Lightsaber will hit you (Leghit = 1.8 x 600. 600 = Lightsaber minimum damage) for 1080 - 30% (PvP reduction) which equals 756. Improved Force Armor is roughly 50% reduction, so assuming the JEdi doesn't Armor Break you, thats 378 damage your Armor Will absorb. That adds up to 19 Force per hit. Your remaining Force of 850 will deplete all your Force (850) in 44 hits. With a Jedi hitting on average, every 2 seconds, that gives you 1 minute 20 until the remainder of your Force bar will be gone. Force Regeneration with this template would be +26. Thats 26 Force every 10 seconds or 156 Force per minute. This factored in would probably get you up to the 2 minute mark before your Force pool will be gone.

Enhancer is an incredibly Force hungry discipline and like Powers, just isn't viable for a Jedi/BH dabbler template.

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Opie76 wrote:
I know jedi damage is reduced, but I didn't think it would apply to non jedi dmg. Still even with reduced dmg there is the toggle to turn it on and off. A bh would have alot easier time catching a runner if he himself also has FR3.

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Advanced Force Run costs 500 Force per activation. This Master Enhancer/Master Bounty Hunter template has 2800 Force. Thats 3 activations of Advanced Force Run.

Advanced Force Run is good for 1 thing and that is escaping. Its 500 Force cost makes it useless in any other capacity.

Just some numbers for you here:

Say a Bounty Hunter attacks me unprepared. I force Run up to him to (500 Force), Stasis him (300 Force), activate Improved Force Speed (250 Force), eat my foods, then hit Supression (250 Force) to root him.

In such on opening passage of play, I have used an incredible 1300 Force on 4 actions and I have yet to do any offensive actions.

On the flip side of this, it costs me only 7 Force to Saber Hit, 20 Force to Leg/Body/Head Hit, 30 Force to Advanced Saber Throw and 50 Force to Saber Dervish. Force costs for anything other than Lightsaber moves are too high in Jedi currently. For a Smuggler to use Concussion Shot, costs as much Action/Mind as it does to do something like Head Shot from Rifleman. Yet for me to use Stasis (exactly the same effect) costs me enough Force to do roughly 15 Lightsaber attacks.

Force costs on Enhancer and Powers = insane. Infact I would argue that Enhancer moves are less Force efficient than Powers moves.

Enhancer would be the worst Jedi discipline to have in a BH hybrid template.

Like Ive posted previously any bh jedi hybrid is just a gymped jedi with a bang stick........

I tried all the combos from masterdefender/mbh through to as little as 2002 enhancer 0400 forcepowers mbh...they all suck vs a full template jedi... Yes you will catch a few nooblets off gaurd but guys the skillpoints are better spent in the normal skills.

And remember no armour either....Used to be able to activate force run and then equip armour and forcerun all day long but not any more.....

i'd say menhancer drains much to much force to be an effective template choice...and what about healing? mbh/menhance leaves you with enough sp for ONE box in healer...no armour no healing, you'd be a sitting duck to be honest. I think menhancer is a great skill for a FULL temp, it just wouldnt work paired with a bh hybrid though. if you're going for a bh/jedi hybrid heres what i'd recommend.

defender 3040
healer 3000
rifles 3000
master bounty hunter

of course im not the best template creator for jedi junk since i know little about it lol so yeah.