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Thread: Need some input here
Message Edited by Keito_Temreh on 08-25-2005 07:40 PM
Cant really help, but isnt it tedious with that build? You're basically banking on snare and kiting. I'd rather lose quickly or win quickly. Although I'm also a MCM so things tend to last around 5 to 10 minutes.
I would say that you probably just need to plan your attacks so he would have been more vulnerable. You can use Pyro's which should kick the damage up a bit, but really in your situation it still wouldnt have been enough to kill fast.
Every once in awhile I run into guys where my damage sinks below 150. I have a pup'ed 657 - 1344 AL rifle. So it's one of those things. The best Jedi should always beat the best BH, but it doesnt mean you're going to lose all your fights.
Keito_Temreh wrote:
Ok i've fought MDEFs before. Usually i can wear them down.My template is Master BH/Master Carbineer/4000 CMToday i fought a MDEF for upwards of 45 mins. Not until the very very end did i ever do any damage over 400 to him, thru most of the fight i was hitting for 197-200ish. He regenned/healed it faster than i could dent it. Now i figured hey after awhile he is gonna be out of force. Sure enough his buffs started dropping. Saw him dipping into his mind pool so figured he had to be using stims. Though for sure that anytime now i would be bringing his health down.I received a tell from an onlooker in his guild that his jedi friend that was present was feeding him force. Sure enough his buffs popped up again. Went awhile longer and they again faded. Started to hit for 400ish at this point. But it didnt last long. Soon i was hitting for 197-200ish again. I Had a full mind bar the entire fight. Not once did he ever get close to hurting me or requiring me to heal more than 5-6 times. I also figured he popped a holocron at one point.I used a 597 dps nym's carbine, a 892 1.3 speed czerka carbine and my bola carbine that is 1030 max dmg at 1.1 speed.I couldn't hurt this guy, nor could he do anything to me. I used accuracy foods etc.. Well over 300 accuracy against this guy and I could barely hurt him at all. This fight was never going to end.Is there anything i could have done to give me advantage? Seems to me the holocrons and the force feeding by other Jedi is totally BS and just not fair. Where are my instant action regen holos at eh?Really need something to hurt these templates. This was rediclous. As i said i've fought MDEFs before and won but there was no other jedi around to feed them force and none used a holocron that I was aware of, I eventually just wore them down. This was way out of control. What can I do? What weapons could i use that would enable me to deal enough damage to force them to heal more?I am not being schooled, or torn down quickly, i am very able to last through the fight. I just am not able to deal considerable enough damage to get anywhere, it is always a long drawn out battle that ends in a draw.Message Edited by Keito_Temreh on 08-25-2005 07:40 PM
Not possible, once there is a TEF nobody can interfere. I've seen attempts to feed force, buff heal ect but that won't work with the BH tef on. Maybe he lost the TEF or a weird bug but this isn't supposed to be possible. Also, holocrons only work once every 24 hrs. To be honest, this whole scenerio doesn't add up looking at the numbers and timeline. Something isn't right or details are missing for sure.
Defenders with enhancer skills and smart use of them can go on for a LONG time and maintain their force.
Orthell wrote:
Keito_Temreh wrote:
Ok i've fought MDEFs before. Usually i can wear them down.
My template is Master BH/Master Carbineer/4000 CM
Today i fought a MDEF for upwards of 45 mins. Not until the very very end did i ever do any damage over 400 to him, thru most of the fight i was hitting for 197-200ish. He regenned/healed it faster than i could dent it. Now i figured hey after awhile he is gonna be out of force. Sure enough his buffs started dropping. Saw him dipping into his mind pool so figured he had to be using stims. Though for sure that anytime now i would be bringing his health down.
I received a tell from an onlooker in his guild that his jedi friend that was present was feeding him force. Sure enough his buffs popped up again. Went awhile longer and they again faded. Started to hit for 400ish at this point. But it didnt last long. Soon i was hitting for 197-200ish again. I Had a full mind bar the entire fight. Not once did he ever get close to hurting me or requiring me to heal more than 5-6 times. I also figured he popped a holocron at one point.
I used a 597 dps nym's carbine, a 892 1.3 speed czerka carbine and my bola carbine that is 1030 max dmg at 1.1 speed.
I couldn't hurt this guy, nor could he do anything to me. I used accuracy foods etc.. Well over 300 accuracy against this guy and I could barely hurt him at all. This fight was never going to end.
Is there anything i could have done to give me advantage? Seems to me the holocrons and the force feeding by other Jedi is totally BS and just not fair. Where are my instant action regen holos at eh?
Really need something to hurt these templates. This was rediclous. As i said i've fought MDEFs before and won but there was no other jedi around to feed them force and none used a holocron that I was aware of, I eventually just wore them down. This was way out of control. What can I do? What weapons could i use that would enable me to deal enough damage to force them to heal more?
I am not being schooled, or torn down quickly, i am very able to last through the fight. I just am not able to deal considerable enough damage to get anywhere, it is always a long drawn out battle that ends in a draw.
Message Edited by Keito_Temreh on 08-25-2005 07:40 PM
Not possible, once there is a TEF nobody can interfere. I've seen attempts to feed force, buff heal ect but that won't work with the BH tef on. Maybe he lost the TEF or a weird bug but this isn't supposed to be possible. Also, holocrons only work once every 24 hrs. To be honest, this whole scenerio doesn't add up looking at the numbers and timeline. Something isn't right or details are missing for sure.
Defenders with enhancer skills and smart use of them can go on for a LONG time and maintain their force.
Thanks for answering number one, that eliminates that bit. Typically the MDEFs i've fought didn't use holocron and the fight lasted 45+mins. However perhaps this was an enhancer MDEF template. The only thing making me doubt this was his extensive use of sabre throw which led me to beleive he was a MLS/MDF, a template that i can usually beat simply by outlasting their force.
Due to the fight surpassing the 45 min mark I now beleive he used a holocron and there was no "force feeding" going on.
Message Edited by Keito_Temreh on 08-25-2005 09:38 PM