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Thread: Damage by Rifle

Toonarmy
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:03 am
#1

Evening all,

I have a question , but first heres the secenario:

I dueled a friend and we both have almost same template.

Player 1. MBH / MRM / CM 4000
Player 2. MBH / MCM / R 4000 (or was it 0004)

Equipement used:

PLayer 1 : Trandoshan Rifle (Full Capped - with Dmg Pup) , Ubese 8088 vs Energy Armor (Sliced 75% AB), SEAs : Rifle Speed and Acc +25 each. Various Rifle D , Ranged D Seas.

Player 2: Adv. Laser Rifle (Dmg Max: 1307 - with Dmg Pup)
Padded Armor 75xx vs Energy Armor Not sliced). Some Rifle Acc and speed sea.

OK to put i'm player 2 , with lower stats on att and def.
When i had a duel with a friend, we just tried firing critical shots at each other with the following result:

No Armor:
Player 1 does 1441 dmg
PLayer 2 does 1317 dmg

With Armor
Player 1 does 300-400dmg (average) as player 2 armor absorbs 1000-1100 dmg of 1410 dmg

Player 2 Does 480-6xx dmg (average) as player 1 armor absorbs 300-400 of 1310 dmg


Now heres the question, how can an unsliced armor absorb more damage than a sliced armor? also the second player (me) , do less dmg when no armor on but with the unsliced armor , i seem to be better protected as compared to a 8088 Ubese user. Is the Padded armor better? Or Is there a bug somewhere?

Food were all taken ( Pica Thundercloud, Cripspic). An Average of 3 shots were taken into consideration. And we did 3 shot each other many times.

Any feedback, questions will be appreciated.

Well need to rush off now .... writing this @ my work place.... lol



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Vinne Toonarmie
BadMedic
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:07 am
#2

Maybe the armor on either player had 0 condition??? or perhaps a personal shield generator



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Stecoli
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:08 am
#3

Maybe the Combat medic had Better unarmored defense. have u checked what the base dmg on both weapons is and wether they have lemental damage.
Toonarmy
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:09 am
#4

Sorry , forgot to mention , All armor , were in good working condition (Have not decayed below 50% of overall condition). No PSG in use.

Also both weapons have only Enery based damage.Min Damage on each is 500+ with pup (Cant remember). My ALR is definately not capped.

I'm just wondering why, as a lower stat player , I could absorb more damage, and he's Padded armor absorbs damage better.

Message Edited by Toonarmy on 09-06-2005 07:12 AM

Message Edited by Toonarmy on 09-06-2005 07:12 AM



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Vinne Toonarmie
Stecoli
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:14 am
#5

Are you talking about the actual "DAMAGE THE ARMOR ABSORBED"


Or are you talking about the actual "DAMAGE THE PLAYER ABSORBED"


??


Musicmaestro
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:14 am
#6


First: Your armour has an Armour Break slice, which does nothing against standard attacks. It's sole purpose is to reduce the effects of the Armour Break skill used by Jedi or Swordsman. So this slice would not effect a duel with a MBH/MRM/4000CM.


Second: What are the stats on the Trandoshan Rifle? Is there elemental damage.


Third: The Rifleman has very high ranged defense vs. CM having low ranged accuracy. This could show through as more/less damage.


Fourth: Was he using duelist stance or PSG?



Those are some things off the top of my head. Try trading rifles next and see what happens, this will narrow down your search.




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Musicmaestro
Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:19 am
#7






Toonarmy wrote:

I'm just wondering why, as a lower stat player , I could absorb more damage, and he's Padded armor absorbs damage better.




I'm sorry but this doesn't make sense. Could you explain what you mean by "absorb more damage and his padded absorbes damage better"?



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Toonarmy
Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:27 am
#8

okay finally back at my PC and in-game


the combat log shows this :


My friend's Details :


Player 1 with 75% AB SLiced Ubese vs 8088 Energy Armor , Trandoshan Hunters Rifle Mark 1B (Mx Dmg : 1367 w/ Dmg pup) , Template : MBH / MRM/ CM 4000. No PSG , No foods. (+25 Rifle Acc, Rifle Speed, Some Rifle , Range Def SEAs)


I'm PLayer 2 with an unsliced 7054 vs Energy Padded Armor, Adv. Laser Rifle (Dmg Max: 1307 - with Dmg Pup)
( MBH/MCM/ Rifle 4000). No PSG. No foods. (no Seas whatsover)


*Both Weapons Used has only Energy Damage- no others.


The combat logs reads like this (both armor on):


When i fire on him : (Average of 3 shots)


"Player2 attacks Player1 with Adv. Critical Shot and hits for530 points (530 points of Energy Damage). PLayer1 Armor absorbs 725 points out of 1255 possible points of damage."


Now when he fires at me: (average of 3 shots)


"Player1 attacks Player2 with Adv. Critical Shot and hits for433 points (433 points of Energy Damage). PLayer2 Armor absorbs1030 points out of 1463 possible points of damage."


So, I'm wondering, how in fact , (Player 2) , with supposedly inferior Armor (7054 vs Energy Padded) , be able to absorb more damage. When


1) I have a lower overall possible damage, lower att/def stats.


2) His armor is supposedly better (8088 vs Energy)


Ack .... hope i am making sense


Just hoping to find some answers to this SWG made mystery.






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