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Thread: Is that better to get root or healing efficiency?????

BizekAltar
Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:36 am
#1

Im Master BH and Master Rifleman pistoleer 0-0-0-3 and medic 0-0-2-0


with that i have +10 healing efficiency and i can heal myself nearly 1500 with a droid good attachement and food but i was thinking if ui could heal myself for more than that


I was thinking on getting master BH master Rifleman medic 0-4-0-0 and CM 4-0-0-0


With that i have +50 healing efficiency i know the heal will be really better but i dont know how much better is that 2500?


Is that worth losing root or not?.


I dont really know what to do.





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Mosuger
Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:41 am
#2

That really depends on whether you like to go toe to toe with your mark or keep your distance. It all averages out - if you keep root and stay ranged then your heals do less with the thinking that you need less heals. I had the same template for awhile and the root was only good while it lasted and most of the time I ended up close range with them so I opted to drop root, pick up medic and CM 0-4-0-0. My heals with food/droid are still good enough and now I have the added DoTs...I'm likin it so far, but just finished up the CM tree lastnight so I haven't had a chance to really test it.


I know a few others that are using this template and do quite well.



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BizekAltar
Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:46 am
#3

anyone know how many heal you can do?




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HeadRoll
Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:52 am
#4






BizekAltar wrote:

Im Master BH and Master Rifleman pistoleer 0-0-0-3 and medic 0-0-2-0


with that i have +10 healing efficiency and i can heal myself nearly 1500 with a droid good attachement and food but i was thinking if ui could heal myself for more than that


I was thinking on getting master BH master Rifleman medic 0-4-0-0 and CM 4-0-0-0


With that i have +50 healing efficiency i know the heal will be really better but i dont know how much better is that 2500?


Is that worth losing root or not?.


I dont really know what to do.






As a rifleman you will have some difficulty in controlling your mark and kiting. Rifleman Snare is the worst out of all professions, they also do not get a root unless you dabble....So I would take root from the pitols tree. However, if you want some bonuses to heal and a very nice snare which is far better then riflemans, go 0-0-0-4 in combat medic tree.

TarsisDenai
Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:53 am
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BizekAltar wrote:

anyone know how many heal you can do?







Infinite? You can do a lot I know that. I don't think I've ever run out of Mind.



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MrGouda
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:07 pm
#6


If you're thinking CM for the non healing specials, let me caution you. Read up on the CM forums first. The application failure rate is high for non master CM's for non-heal specials.


Healing is great, but beware of the non-heal specials without putting some healthy skill points in CM.


All I do is hunt jedi. So my template works for me.


Yes Thyroid rupture and Traumatize are priceless against jedi, but worthless against NPC's and PvE -- in my experience.


SamousNemo
Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:53 pm
#7






BizekAltar wrote:

Im Master BH and Master Rifleman pistoleer 0-0-0-3 and medic 0-0-2-0


with that i have +10 healing efficiency and i can heal myself nearly 1500 with a droid good attachement and food but i was thinking if ui could heal myself for more than that


I was thinking on getting master BH master Rifleman medic 0-4-0-0 and CM 4-0-0-0


With that i have +50 healing efficiency i know the heal will be really better but i dont know how much better is that 2500?


Is that worth losing root or not?.


I dont really know what to do.








If you use a droid now your heals aren't going to be much better than they are now if you add attachments. This is because of The Law of Diminishing Returns: basically the more you have, the less you get when you add more. For example, +25 (attachments)on top of +10 (med xx2x) will boost your heals from like 400 to 800, +110 (droid) on +10 will boost to 1500, but +25 and +110 on +10 will probably only get you to 1600, and +50 (CM 4xxx) with +110 might only get you to 1650.


As you can see there isn't a cap, but your added returns diminish more and more as you put on more HE mods. Granted, these aren't the exact numbers (although I'm sure someone has them), but you sure as hell won't be getting 2500 heals with CM 4xxx and a droid.


Now this isn't to say +25 in tapes won't be useful. True, your heals won't be much better with a droid than they are now, but what's the point in having a root if you have to stay in the vicinity of a incap'd droid to use your heal? What I'd suggest is get the +25 in tapes (although you can probably get about +17 with a good Bio-Engineered shirt and then just +8 in tapes) for the 800 heals without the droid. This way you can be far more mobile in your attacks and still have pretty good heals for a MR template with root.


Then again, lots of people have success with a MR/CM 4xxx template (damage, range, heals, but no root) or a MCM/Pist xxx3 (heals, debuffs, and root, but no range or damage) so I'd suggest trying out a couple to figure out what works best for you.




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Algren_Earth-Stormer
Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:03 am
#8

if you've never run out of mind, I can't imagine you have gotten into a fight with a very worthy opponent.



basically you need to weigh the amount of damage you WON'T take by having the root against the amount of extra damage you can heal with the extra healing eff.... but I think the best you'll do is about 2k on heals, not 2.5k.


Another aspect you don't really think about is that while you are healing you are not doing damage... which allows jedi to do more damage, which means you heal more....... but if you have root, you do only damage, and all jedi can do is heal (nice way for them to waste mind/force).





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BizekAltar
Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:19 am
#9

but thyroid rupture will be only better with a jedi not really worth with a npc dont you think.


if i dont only do jedi it can be useful to get healing.


But paralyse can be useful also.



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