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Thread: Pub 20 is going to bring all the tension back that the CU got rid of

Niles_Sjostrom
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:24 pm
#1

It can be veryimportant to have the Jedi name. NOT FOR GRIEFING. The first time a BH thinks, "You know, I've now used an arakyd probe, which I paid for, and now I've spent 10 or 15 minutes of my 40 total gaming minutes tonight tracking this Jedi who I see is now on my guild's 'no hunt' list (or worse yet, in my guild). Forget that list I am a BH and I deserve the same 'fun' as anyone else, this guy's dead" you know we'll be called every name under the sun again. Will Jedi be happy at some time before BH is taken out of the game? Last time I checked we all paid to play this game so we deserve the same rights to play as the Jedi, Medic, Entertainer, Swordsman, or any other player for that matter! Griefing is part of the game unfortunately. Under the old system it wasn't all that easy to target a specific Jedi. You still had to scour the terminal to find them (I've had friends that I've hunted for fun -at their request). If you're that much a loser that you'll spend 20 minutes searching a specific Jedi then more to you. I think most peoplesought out specific prices, not specific Jedi. All Pub 20 will do is make it so only the Padawans are consistantly hunted now that SOE will effectively remove group hunting (so no more Jedi Knight hunting). Is this game really set in the time period right after Episode 4 when a Jedi by the name of Obi-Wan was in hiding so much that he hid his light saber in a safe (see Ep4 for proof)? You allknow good old Obi Wan. He's the Jedi responsible for putting the most powerful Jedi in Jedi history into a cybersuit and cutting off all his limbs, leaving one arm as an insult. Interesting that he'd be hiding isn't it? Last I checked Jedi ran rampant all over every server, branishing light saberseverywhere. If SOE would just advance the timeline they could solve this issue, and the fact that theRebellion has become the New Republic on everyserver as well.


As a player who's been a master BH since as long as you've seen us in the game (1 year and 6 months or so now) I think it is safe to say at this point that SOE really doesn't care about the BH profession. First they nerfed us to the point it made no sense to make ususe all our skill points away, then they changed the skill points thing in a "token" effort when they should've given back our state controls. Then we were forced to chase templates in an effort to have an effective profession in PvP or even PvE!! Then they made it tougher for us to track and hunt Jedi and then even tougher later with the Kashyyk trick. Now they are going to effectively ruin the profession for many by creating an environment where a BH could be tracking a member of a group the hunter has committed not to hunt or even worse, a guildmate! Good job SOE, you fools.


LUCAS ARTS. please take this game over or create a new SW MMO that actually makes sense in the context it is set in!! SOE has no idea about the timeline they claim this game is set in....




-Hey SOE, here's a novel idea. Instead of trying to get new customers to replace the lost ones. Try fixing the bugs so you get new customers and KEEP the old ones too! Next time you delete a post that puts SOE in a bad light, think about giving us reasons to put you in a good light instead. ...you see when someone buys the game it means they want to like it. When they cancel an account it means you made someone who liked the game dislike it. How's that good business again?
Where does a 90% drop is customer base equal good business? SOE
Niles_Sjostrom
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:34 pm
#2

Resolution:

Never post angry comments without a proper resolution, right.


My thoughts. Why not create a system where a BH can search for specific prices on the terminals (not a player name - still hide players for a period). There must also be some way for BH who track together to continue to do so. Possibly just allow grouping again. I thought the removal of that was odd for both sides really. I personally hunt alone but I do see a lot of BH that do hunt in groups. They pay the same as me and if that's how they want to have their fun, so be it. And any Jedi comment against that can be put to rest very fast. You know the risks when you become a Jedi. If you don't like them, I hear doctors don't get hunted, nor does ANY OTHER prof in the game. Pick something else. Once you get the bio signature you should then be given the Jedi name. This for several reasons. No one is going to go through all that just to track a specific player for starters. Another reason is simlply that in order to avoid tracking a target you may have agreed (via guild treaties, etc) not to hunt, you won't get into a situation where you've spent time and droids to track a person you are not supposed to hunt. This will leave a lot of unneeded tension out of the video game.

I personally think MBH should be the only ones tracking Jedi and also that MBH should be as it was originally. Why state controls were removed is beyond me. Made no sense. Make both elite professions to justify taking all the player's skill points up. Also make both huntable in some form and make it so that BOTH lose exp for "hunting" death. Obviously Jedi should be more powerful and therefore should also lose more exp but BOTH should lose some exp. This will also help remove a lot of anymosity between players in this video game.

Just my thoughts.




-Hey SOE, here's a novel idea. Instead of trying to get new customers to replace the lost ones. Try fixing the bugs so you get new customers and KEEP the old ones too! Next time you delete a post that puts SOE in a bad light, think about giving us reasons to put you in a good light instead. ...you see when someone buys the game it means they want to like it. When they cancel an account it means you made someone who liked the game dislike it. How's that good business again?
Where does a 90% drop is customer base equal good business? SOE
dtfitz61
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:51 pm
#3

BRAVOI!!!!!!!!!!!! The Bounty Hunter / Jedi thing is a complete joke. The problem first and foremost is that there are WAY, WAY WAY, too many Jedi in the game. And Jedi are run mostly by whiny little teenaged biatches who can not stomach the possiblity of losing skill boxes, or some kind of severe penalty for death, so that if the war between bh's and jedis ever went in the bhs favor we would see less jedi in the game. At this point the Jedi population will just continue to grow until EVERY SINGLE MOTHER F-ING PLAYER in the game will have a Jedi!!! What the F is SOE thinking???? I remember way back in the beginning of this game it was said that Jedi would be a rare breed. I almost see as many Jedi as anyother kind of profession. And I know that this game nor its developers, and most of all,the punk ass Jedi could never accept a significant deteriorating penalty for a Jedi dying. That way a BH can actually make a difference in the Jedi population. It is already almost impossible to 1 on 1 as a MBH a half ass jedi and win. Yet there is no real way for the Jedi to be eradicated like they are supposed to be.


And as far as Jedi saying "Well than what penalty should a BH get for dying?" Heres my answer. NONE. Why? We have always been at the disadvantage anyway and the life of a jedi is supposed to be a difficult one, not intended for any jacka$$. Maybe i could accept complete 100% wound dmg and max battle fatigue for dying by a jedi mark. But I think we can all agree, the BH Jedi situation is lopsided and i dont think many jedi knights fear any bounty hunters. Jedi continue to get every advantage, while the BH's continue to get the "BONEY FROM SONY."



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Yoshiyuki
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:51 pm
#4
I say Bring about Normal Player Missions. You won't have to conduct as much recon as you do on jedi + you could attack at any time and still have a chance at winning. There would be no need to wait for the player to be low on action or force points. Smugglers HAVE NO FORCE POINTS.
Jenya_Malik
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:57 pm
#5

What I see here is a rant for no real purpose... for two reasons


Reason One: They will not change their minds over somthing said in a forum, it's been proven over and over and over and over and over and ... you get the point


Reason Two: If you are like me and do not want to hunt certain jedi then just don't hunt jedi from your faction, I realise that from the Imperial standpoint (I am one) that we are supposed to RP that ALL jedi are enemies - even the ones (god forbid) that are in our own guild. But the Rebels are not supposed to see it that way, the Rebs shouldn't be hunting Lights anyway. The new system is finally allowing us to know what faction they are first, which is a HUGE improvement.


I do know that there could be a lot of improvement though. I just want to know why it's so bad for 4 or even 5 of us to hunt a single jedi at a time when so many run around with stasis and we can't touch them, not tomention the exploiters who can accomplish several thousand points of damage with one hit (Through armor)


The real tragedy in this game right now is not the nerfs, it's the favoritism towards certain professions, while others get completely ignored (BE,Smuggler{not so much smuggler now finally} Tailor, etc..) I would like to see a better selection of clothing, mods for clothing, doctors not agroing everything in sight for bacta injections, a squad leader who can call rally for the group and NOT have to worry about combatant statuses on everyone, skills for the BH that can actually *GASP* help us take a jedi down.


You know what, forget all that, I'd be happy just for the line of sight bug to get fixed.


Just find it curious that everyone wanted to know what faction their target was before, and now that they're getting it they complain cause they'll actually have to not hunt same faction to avoid hunting so called "Pacted Jedi"


*EDIT* Fixed some grammar errors

Message Edited by Jenya_Malik on 07-10-2005 03:59 PM



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Eleutherios
Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:09 pm
#6
The whole "might be in my guild" thing won't be an issue for me (the only rule is no same-faction hunting), but I do hate the idea of not having a damn name.



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Quickfire04
Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:11 pm
#7

Niles_Sjostrom wrote:
It can be very important to have the Jedi name. NOT FOR GRIEFING. The first time a BH thinks, "You know, I've now used an arakyd probe, which I paid for, and now I've spent 10 or 15 minutes of my 40 total gaming minutes tonight tracking this Jedi who I see is now on my guild's 'no hunt' list (or worse yet, in my guild).




BH missions will now show faction so that should not be an issue.




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Grisham
Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:46 pm
#8




Niles_Sjostrom wrote:


It can be veryimportant to have the Jedi name. NOT FOR GRIEFING. The first time a BH thinks, "You know, I've now used an arakyd probe, which I paid for, and now I've spent 10 or 15 minutes of my 40 total gaming minutes tonight tracking this Jedi who I see is now on my guild's 'no hunt' list (or worse yet, in my guild). Forget that list I am a BH and I deserve the same 'fun' as anyone else, this guy's dead" you know we'll be called every name under the sun again. Will Jedi be happy at some time before BH is taken out of the game? Last time I checked we all paid to play this game so we deserve the same rights to play as the Jedi, Medic, Entertainer, Swordsman, or any other player for that matter! Griefing is part of the game unfortunately. Under the old system it wasn't all that easy to target a specific Jedi. You still had to scour the terminal to find them (I've had friends that I've hunted for fun -at their request). If you're that much a loser that you'll spend 20 minutes searching a specific Jedi then more to you. I think most peoplesought out specific prices, not specific Jedi. All Pub 20 will do is make it so only the Padawans are consistantly hunted now that SOE will effectively remove group hunting (so no more Jedi Knight hunting). Is this game really set in the time period right after Episode 4 when a Jedi by the name of Obi-Wan was in hiding so much that he hid his light saber in a safe (see Ep4 for proof)? You allknow good old Obi Wan. He's the Jedi responsible for putting the most powerful Jedi in Jedi history into a cybersuit and cutting off all his limbs, leaving one arm as an insult. Interesting that he'd be hiding isn't it? Last I checked Jedi ran rampant all over every server, branishing light saberseverywhere. If SOE would just advance the timeline they could solve this issue, and the fact that theRebellion has become the New Republic on everyserver as well.


As a player who's been a master BH since as long as you've seen us in the game (1 year and 6 months or so now) I think it is safe to say at this point that SOE really doesn't care about the BH profession. First they nerfed us to the point it made no sense to make ususe all our skill points away, then they changed the skill points thing in a "token" effort when they should've given back our state controls. Then we were forced to chase templates in an effort to have an effective profession in PvP or even PvE!! Then they made it tougher for us to track and hunt Jedi and then even tougher later with the Kashyyk trick. Now they are going to effectively ruin the profession for many by creating an environment where a BH could be tracking a member of a group the hunter has committed not to hunt or even worse, a guildmate! Good job SOE, you fools.


LUCAS ARTS. please take this game over or create a new SW MMO that actually makes sense in the context it is set in!! SOE has no idea about the timeline they claim this game is set in....




/Disagree



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