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Thread: Let them hunt us
Thassk wrote:
ROFLMFAOSTILL SAME OLD S**TJEDI WAS NOT THIS BEFORE CUWE GRINDED ALL THOSE MONTHS TO GET WHAT IT "WAS" NOT WHAT IT IS NOWDO YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY AS A RESPONSE OTHER THAN THIS LOAD OF C**P??? LMFAO GO BOTHER SOMEONE ELSE
let me tell ya something .. i didnt invest 150 million credits in a combat suit for my proffession for it to be meaningless and give me stress cuz the proffession is in danger of being nerfed because of jedi whining to get it nerfed ...i dont want to constantly have to rethink my decision to go to down a particular proffession path because it changes somuch ....
this game is ALWAYS changing .. and it aint just happening to jedi .. live with it ... weapons .. armorsmith and weaponsmith resources .. tons of things were changed nerfed .. some even made better ... many many people lost out on millions and months of time and many many people lucked out and had the value of their goods increased ( like my krayt scales ) ..
but the main point here is this game is always in a constant state of change .. ALL MMORPG's are ... just because you may have grinded jedi in the past .. doesnt mean you hold any rights or say in what it may become in the future .. EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING in this game is property of SOE .. and they will do with it whats neccesary to preserve the community in this game .. and preserve the life of this game ...
p.s. and im not agreeing with you as to the current state of jedi .. they have it EASIER THEN they've had it since the first jedi came out!! ... would you like saber tef and PERMADEATH brought back?
no i didnt think so ...
why dont you go log on and enjoy yourself,and enjoy the increasedfreedom you have these days as a jedi
why do you guys keep trying to put price and compare to jedi... do you even have a clue what pearls go for? or jedi tapes?
we all know things have changed we not all grinded post cu a lot of us are pre-cu and more.. the grind might be easyer now
but it still takes much longer than any other. as you said we don't have the right to say were this game is going, but neither
do you... but then again you keep being selfish and not even consider a good idea that will bring more pvp to those who are out
there looking for and avoiding the ganks that no one wants and that everyone always complains, but i guess your not that confident
on your pvp skills.
you mention permadeath and saber tef.. permadeath was removed for a reason.. do you think a company will take away the hard work a
player did.. they already gave that ability to you guys. permadeath was designed because at that time jedi had insane power it would
be as if right now you would fight a 5 mastery jedi.. can your mind understand what that means? MLS/Mdef/Menh/Mheal/Mpowers... do you
think any bh would be able to deal with a template like that? i honestly doubt it. not only that those sabers had 2k+ dmg i saw jedi
back then warp like 50m do 2 swipes and take a player out will you deal with that? you talk about saber tef for that to happen, would
you take back 85% at MLS? that was taken down to 25 because of all the crying, they said that they would make it so that a master once
the frs would come back would have 85% block but once again that hs gone down the drain because of more crying...
sorry but there is really no real reasons why this idea could not work
think about it.. why don't you try and use your brain to try and figure out a system for this idea to work instead of crying so much.
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why do you guys keep trying to put price and compare to jedi... do you even have a clue what pearls go for? or jedi tapes?
we all know things have changed we not all grinded post cu a lot of us are pre-cu and more.. the grind might be easyer now
but it still takes much longer than any other. as you said we don't have the right to say were this game is going, but neither
do you... but then again you keep being selfish and not even consider a good idea that will bring more pvp to those who are out
there looking for and avoiding the ganks that no one wants and that everyone always complains, but i guess your not that confident
on your pvp skills.
you mention permadeath and saber tef.. permadeath was removed for a reason.. do you think a company will take away the hard work a
player did.. they already gave that ability to you guys. permadeath was designed because at that time jedi had insane power it would
be as if right now you would fight a 5 mastery jedi.. can your mind understand what that means? MLS/Mdef/Menh/Mheal/Mpowers... do you
think any bh would be able to deal with a template like that? i honestly doubt it. not only that those sabers had 2k+ dmg i saw jedi
back then warp like 50m do 2 swipes and take a player out will you deal with that? you talk about saber tef for that to happen, would
you take back 85% at MLS? that was taken down to 25 because of all the crying, they said that they would make it so that a master once
the frs would come back would have 85% block but once again that hs gone down the drain because of more crying...
sorry but there is really no real reasons why this idea could not work
think about it.. why don't you try and use your brain to try and figure out a system for this idea to work instead of crying so much.
but your missing my point ... these jedi who are constantly askingfor nerfs havent put the time into pearls .. the time into making money to get good gear .. they havent even put the time into learning how to PVP!! ..
they justB*tch to developers to nerf all the proffessions, so they can get by in template power alone ...they think its wrong when a BH whos invested over 200 million in gear beats them even though their saber SUCKS and isnt worth 1 mill .. and their attachments SUCK .. foods SUCK .. strategies SUCK ...
and meanwhile people like me who haveowned and PAID FOR THE GAME just as long as anyjedi, SUFFER .. because anytime we invest millions and months of hard earned money into buying gear for a proffession .. wefear the chance of having to start over becausesome jedi players try toconvince devs to turn that proffession upside down ....
most playersdidnt get jedi by skill ... lets get that clear ...they got it by obsessive grinding and HIDING from BH .. suuure once you achieved full template you may have gone out into the world and PVP'd and sharpened your skill in PVP and PVE....but your climb to jedi was nothing ...
YOUR GRINDING was easier than me engaging in high end content WITHOUT jedi ... whileplayers were grinding pathetically easylevel 82 mobs or AFK grinding the ryatt trails i was learning how to solo krayts ... hitting up nightsistseers for loot , exploring dungeons ... ALL WITHOUT A JEDI TOON.. engaging the high end content of this game without jedi and trying to master it with a regular proffessiondeserves more respect and appraisal then mindlessly using AOE attacks and trading in XP.. imho at least
most jedidont deserve anything ..most jedihavent achieved anything worthy of reward ... where does this feeling of entitlement come from?
playershave NO RIGHT .. NO RIGHT to BEG developers, as many of you have been doing, to destroy MY template ... which i have fought hard to master .. and dedicated myself to ..I have been JUST as faithful in my subscription fees .. and have actually LEARNED now to play my template and KEPT IT,i didnt run with the rest of the elitist crowd trying to get the most powerful template in game...im not some cheap wannabe grinding out a proffession for power ... ( and i exclude you star wars fans .. RP'ers and normal MMORPG'ers who go jedi but still remain humble) ... im adressing these retards whoB*tch DAY IN AND DAY out to nerf every profession even their own!!
if anything we NON jedi deserve more reward for trying to preserve the class variety in this game ....
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 04:15 AM
all my equiment is 400 mill in adkes weapons and armour and tapes and other stuff , and time in bh is 2 years and im still learning.
if you cant win as a jedi or a bh you suck and should not be playing this game.
DeeckTator wrote:
these jedi who are constantly whining for nerf havent put the time into pearls
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Those who complain are the post cu who need to tune 2500 perls/crystals to get those sabers, did you see the test with over 300 tunes (fair,good and quallity) from different people, 1.8% tuned over 100dmg with ok fc and spd, non tuned 120/120... Who are you to say they haven't spent time getting perls crystals?
You obviously don't have a clue about Jedi and what it takes to get a good saber post CU
you dont need 120/120 sabers to be a viable entity in combat, those are the RARE exception and usually BH have NO chance whatsoever against those types.. unless the bh is VERY WELL skilled ...
lets get that out of the way .. and yes i DO know ... i have been hunting krayt for one year + ... i have sold HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of pearls ...
i know how they tune and it sure as hell doesnt take 1000 pearls to get 90 or more damage and -9 force costs ....
getting a saber 630 damage or over aint hard at all .. and its a good saber .. so save the BS for someone else
at the time when weall KNEW premiums werent dropping anymore premiums werent 30 mill as they are now .. they were 3 to 6 mill , and we knew they werent dropping.. and this was as late as june/july of this year ... jedi could have played with a little amibiton and saved up 3 to 6 mill, if they wanted and bought these pearls ... they could have hunted like the rest of us PRE CU and gotten em anyway .. so its not even like they didnt have a chance at getting uber sabers ...
my gun is 10 mill .. with an ADK thats 35 mill on my server ... my armor has 4 ADK kits on it .. thats 100 mill right there
my +25 accumilated mods are about another 50 mill right there .. my health crystals 20 mill mind crystal 5 mill .. my foods 200k a crate .. my armor was 1.5 mill ... my AB slices are500k to 1 mill...
i rack the forums hours and hours to try and learn the best strategies ... and fight for respect in SWG playing my main toon as a non jedi ...is this not worthy of anything? killing level 82 mobs with a house planted 20 meters from the lair .. and running and locking the door when a BH shows up is worthy of MORE reward and recognition than what ive done?
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 04:44 AM
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
Thassk is correct in every detail,
all my equiment is 400 mill in adkes weapons and armour and tapes and other stuff , and time in bh is 2 years and im still learning.
if you cant win as a jedi or a bh you suck and should not be playing this game.
and thassk says jedi are elitist.... ladies and gents we have a winner....
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
if you cant win as a jedi or a bh you suck and should not be playing this game.
blue-phoenix wrote:
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
Thassk is correct in every detail,
all my equiment is 400 mill in adkes weapons and armour and tapes and other stuff , and time in bh is 2 years and im still learning.
if you cant win as a jedi or a bh you suck and should not be playing this game.
and thassk says jedi are elitist.... ladies and gents we have a winner....
KOLBROOKIE wrote:
if you cant win as a jedi or a bh you suck and should not be playing this game.
first of all let me make perfectly clear this isnt in relation to ALL jedi ... in fact my statements only address a small minority of jedi ... the ones who constantly barrage developers with nerf requests ...
now ... a person who asks for the detrimental .. or NEGATIVE treatment of another .. so that he may be more powerful .. is not an elitist? well .. bro .. in my book thats the VERY DEFINITION of an elitist ....
elitists are those who crave cast systems and desire to be on the upper casts.. not people who shun those not willing to try ....the latter is whata father would be...
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 04:49 AM
cleary you are in conflict at best ... hypocritical in your assesments .. and just two faced in your approach to the situation .. i say two faced becauseyou claim your uber.. that yousmack BH around.. yet b*tch for nerfs .. the perfect example of the SLOP im speaking of in this thread
Elisar wrote:
As a BH, i'm willing to bet most of those creds came from looted CA's and such and regardless of where it came from.. the fact that you have alot of money from an inflated market sank into your gear does not meanyou're better thn anyone else. ( and no where did i say that it made me better .. my point being you shouldnt as a jedi feelentitled or feelbetter either, because the things you did to make jedi werent so extraordinary ornor did they require any bit of extraordinary skill to complete..and another thing ... no they did not come from looted ca's ...they came from dragons .. nightsisters .. DJK .. DJM ..thi all happened before the made the elite and boss mark patch .. so save me the B.S. )
Jedi aren't asking for everyone else to become weaker.. cept maybe the healers, and then only the timers... We are simply asking to be AS powerful as a JEdi should be. ( LMAO ... listen to yourself there )
BH's don't bother me one bit. I smack em around with fluid ease. ( and you still ask for nerfs? like the selfish greedy player you are )And if i get one that actually knows what he's doing and get dragged into a long drawn out fight (because, hinestly, there are about a hundred things i'd rather do than **edit** around with a BH for an hour) I'll just leave.. if it takes logging thats fine i got alts.. or i'll go loot in space.. no biggie to me.
But, as usual, BH are a greedy lot. You keep griping about whining Jedi, yet you cry foul more than any 2 professions combined. ( bring it .. show me with fact ... ill show you TONS of nerf threads made by jedi .. this last week alone .. you show me one made by BH this last week) You are irrationaly opposed to anything that is for Jedi and advocate anything that would give them anything akin to content or power. They are not the power houses you claim they are.. a doc swordsmn has more punch and fewer restrictions.. they are just stronger than YOU, and you hate that... cause your petty little man-boy. ( lmao .. you dont know me, so dont even try ... this kind of stuff just makes you look like a hateful dork)It's is pretty dang stupid that a BH, the arch enemy of a Jedi, is the only profession capable of looting Jedi goods with any kind of regularity.
You don't want jedi hunting BH's for the simple fact tht your afraid that record of kills you acquired on low lvel padawans will be destroyed by having to fight REAL JEdi. But all that aside.. Jedi need missions for themselves.. as a way to acquire the mods and premiums they Deserve.. They pay for the gam too and the fact that you suck dosen't mean they shouldn't be able to have fun...
So hunt me if you want your content. I'd welcome you with the tip of my blade... And when i'm done you'd be licking your wounds at the local cloner and you'd still SUCk with you millions and millions of credits worth of gear.
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-07-2005 07:17 PM
ROFLMFAO
STILL SAME OLD S**T
JEDI WAS NOT THIS BEFORE CU
WE GRINDED ALL THOSE MONTHS TO GET WHAT IT "WAS" NOT WHAT IT IS NOW
DO YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY AS A RESPONSE OTHER THAN THIS LOAD OF C**P??? LMFAO GO BOTHER SOMEONE ELSE
let me tell ya something .. i didnt invest 150 million credits in a combat suit for my proffession for it to be meaningless and give me stress cuz the proffession is in danger of being nerfed because of jedi whining to get it nerfed ...i dont want to constantly have to rethink my decision to go to down a particular proffession path because it changes somuch ....
this game is ALWAYS changing .. and it aint just happening to jedi .. live with it ... weapons .. armorsmith and weaponsmith resources .. tons of things were changed nerfed .. some even made better ... many many people lost out on millions and months of time and many many people lucked out and had the value of their goods increased ( like my krayt scales ) ..
but the main point here is this game is always in a constant state of change .. ALL MMORPG's are ... just because you may have grinded jedi in the past .. doesnt mean you hold any rights or say in what it may become in the future .. EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING in this game is property of SOE .. and they will do with it whats neccesary to preserve the community in this game .. and preserve the life of this game ...
p.s. and im not agreeing with you as to the current state of jedi .. they have it EASIER THEN they've had it since the first jedi came out!! ... would you like saber tef and PERMADEATH brought back?
no i didnt think so ...
why dont you go log on and enjoy yourself,and enjoy the increasedfreedom you have these days as a jedi
I would just like to say
ROFLMFAO @ THASSK
With that out of the way, I would like to say a few things (pardon any spelling or grammar mistakes because I'm still laughing). Thassk you're so full of it and I love your 4th grade words like "dork", "retard", "BS"and yourrepetetive use of the word "bro". I will be referring to a few of you're many hilariously incorrect posts. You said you spent millions and millions of credits on your gear and armor and stuff. Would you like me to give you a cookie? Big stinking deal, a lot of Jedi have spent millions on saber speed and accuracy tapes, force accuracy tapes, force regen tapes, etc. You also expressed your distaste for the constant changing of the game because you were in fear of your hard-earned credits to be wasted. This applies to all players, not just you. The game is changing for everyone, INCLUDING JEDI. What don't you understand about that? Your reasoning for this was that Jedi are constantly calling for nerfs for everyone. You're referring to a very small population of the game's Jedi, and plenty of BHs cry for nerfs on Jedi everyday - why do you think Jedi is as weak as it is? Because Jedi is constantly getting nerfed because BHs think it's too powerful because they are the ones that suck at PvP.
You said, and I quote, "they think its wrong when a BH whos invested over 200 million in gear beats them even though their saber SUCKS and isnt worth 1 mill". How come their sabers, and mine suck? Because pearls are hardly dropping at all, and when they do they aren't of very good quality. You know as well as I do that if a major component for ranged weapons was uncraftable for some reason and reduced the max damage of crafted guns by 200-300 damage, you know the Devs would be all over that in a day or two. That's what has happened to Jedi! Sure the Devs and the ignorant BHs will argue that you can buy good pearls, or eventually you'll get a good tune, but pearls go for millions and most Jedi don't have that kind of money. You said, too, that Jedi only got where they are because of obsessive grinding and HINDING FROM BHs. I'm just curious, if you had to get anywhere from 200k to 3.2mil xp for ONE (1) skill box, and you got 1000 xp instead of the normal 6000 xp per kill, couldnn't wear armor, had a 500 max damage weapon, could heal once every 6 seconds, and could lose: your sp invested in your template x 2000 in xp, I can assure you that you would be hiding too. Once again you made a huge and abominable generalization and stereotype by referring to the Jedi that AFK grinded. That was an emmensely small percentage of Jedi, and many people in the Jedi community, including myself, were highly against that (despite the fact that they could have been hunted if BHs weren't so busy whining to get the Rryatt trail nerfed). I'm very happy you were learning how to "hit up nightsistseers for loot" but unless it took you an average of 3 months to do it, it was nowhere near as grueling and annoying as the Jedi grind, or the FS grind for that matter. You claimed you didn't try to go with the elitist crowd by becoming a Jedi, the most powerful template in the game, when in fact you did. What the heck do you think BH is? Especially MBH/MCM. Everyone isa BH because it's the most powerful and yeilds the most and best loot.
I'm sure you don't know exactly how pearls tune since you don't have a Jedi toon and probably wouldn't even want to associate with us scum because you're so much better than us (which I believe makes you an elitist, right?). You claimed Jedi could have saved up 3-6 million credits in June when premium pearls cost that much. You're not realizing it takes 4 pearls to make a 4th generation saber, and even premiums have the change to tune badly, they just have less of a chance to do so. So theoretically in your perfect world a Jedi would need 12-24 million for a good saber; but things don't work that way. What about the people that unlocked Jedi since the time period pearls were at that price? Not many people have 30 million to spend on a premium pearl nowadays. Also, it's possible for people to have started playing after the CU and to bea Jedi this point in time. They had no opportunity at getting good pearls. You said, "my gun is 10 mill .. with an ADK thats 35 mill on my server ... my armor has 4 ADK kits on it .. thats 100 mill right there... my +25 accumilated mods are about another 50 mill right there .. my health crystals 20 mill mind crystal 5 mill .. my foods 200k a crate .. my armor was 1.5 mill ... my AB slices are500k to 1 mill... " With the cost of pearls, a decent saber could easily cost over 10 million, Jedi use ADKs on their weapons also so that makes that arguement null and void. Jedi have +25 accumulated mods as well, and they generally run more expensive than normal ranged mods. Jedi have mind crystals and health crystals and expensive foods. The only argument you have is that you have more money invested in your armor, but that's not really valid either is it since Jedi can't wear armor. Jedi "rack" the forums as well asking for advice and looking for good BH fighting templates and strategies, and sure they kill level 82 mobs for grinding, but every profession does that, and BHs do it even more to get their awesome loot that no one esle has the ability to get.
And finally... In your last post you criticized Elisar for being hypocritical and "two-faced in her approach to the situation". You, yourself were starting to become the epitome of hypocracy and self contradiction. Your posts got more and more conservative as you went - first accusing all Jedi of crying for nerfs and grinding AFK on the trail, then to saying that your posts didn't apply to RPers, Star Wars fans, and normal MMORPG'ers (whatever that is), to then saying that your posts only applied to a small portion of Jedi. Either you were starting to realize the error of your ways or you were just becoming less aware of what's going on than I thought.
Overall, you're just wrong lol. You obvioulsy have no idea as to what playing as a Jedi is like, and you're amazingly close-minded, thinking everything bad happens only to BHs, and Jedi and all other professions have it perfectly. Everyone, please just stop posting so I don't have to make another post proving someone wrong.
Message Edited by victum on 10-07-2005 06:00 PM
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