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Thread: Tanks, Please Get the devs to reconsider Moving Player Bounties to MBH.

Vcardossk
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:20 am
#105






A_Lamer wrote:





SunSpy wrote:





Tanks wrote:





rYsyn wrote:






Tanks wrote:

The caveat:


You'll just have to wait for Publish 21, there is some love comin'. .







Doubt it.



Any "love" thrown to Bounty Hunter (or any other profession) that is at the expense of Jedi, will not last long or will be countered in some form.




It has nothing to the with Jedi and everything to do with BH and is tied to moving missions to Master. I am trying to get an OK to let you guys know.





Personally I would prefer you NOT announce it. Advance notice just gives Jedi time to start petitions, flamewars and convince their dev buddies in guildchat to get it nerfed.







... As compared to them starting petitions, flamewars, and convincing their dev buddies in guild chat after we get the patch notes? I'd rather know where my profession is heading in advance so I can plan accordingly, thanks.




As compared to bounty hunters starting petitions, flamewars, and convincing their dev buddies to never give jedi anything good? Coemon, don't even pull that lol. I've seen a guy ask a jedi to be banned because he was afk in his house. I've also seen petitions to make it so jedi can't even own houses. I haven't even gone into the skill nerfs.



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Vcardossk
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:22 am
#106






leno wrote:
MBH is terrible atm you cannot land ranged attacks through force valor + force aura. ranged also doesnt not do a whole lot of dmg compared to melee attacks. it is impossible due to the current mechanics of the game to kill a full template jedi 1on1 that heals himself and has force aura or force valor active, anyone with those two buffs active is untouchable versus ranged attacks.




Not everyone has those. Maybe if people didn't cry nerf 24/7 on jedi some of us could fix our skillz up so there's no more defender fotm.



Cardossk- "Why die now when you can kill them later?"
Mylako- "I kill only when i'm paid. And since No one's paid me to kill you yet, sleep tight."
Ihareo
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:24 am
#107






Tanks wrote:





rYsyn wrote:






Tanks wrote:

The caveat:


You'll just have to wait for Publish 21, there is some love comin'. .







Doubt it.



Any "love" thrown to Bounty Hunter (or any other profession) that is at the expense of Jedi, will not last long or will be countered in some form.




It has nothing to the with Jedi and everything to do with BH and is tied to moving missions to Master. I am trying to get an OK to let you guys know.







AHHH!!! THATS"s why it said 'player bounties' instead of 'Jedi bounties'!!


So we're finally going to be able to hunt non Jedi players?







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Vcardossk
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:30 am
#108






scoodoobydoo wrote:



This is what jedi have been saying forever


Now, I ask you whats in it for us? If we are forced to be MBH to hunt Jedi that get FRS points for advancement if they kill us, then what do we gain out of the deal? Money? Again risk vs reward arguement will be out in full force



wow thats fing hilarious comeing from a bounty hunter




ya your sposed to be a jedi dude


rememebr bh do it for the kill, thecredits, the fun, the grief factor, the pvp,the pvp rateing too, the exp ( for force sensitive 1 to 1 ratio ), killing jedi to control theyre population : / you remember the reasons now?,what u wussin out ?


what the heck are u complaining about!!!!




its like whineing for getting stronger then just dont be a bounty hunter!! you know ( then just dont be a jedi!! ) Ahahah

Message Edited by scoodoobydoo on 07-21-2005 01:01 AM



ooh a bh offically stating he is in it for the grief factor/ponder. You know intentional griefing is against the EULA, even in BH missions. As for controling the population i say HA, and another HA HA. Don't let that horrible pile of cra p ooze out of your mouth again. Until pub 20 i had seen 5 bh's since the CU and two of those where after i was above 200k with over 6 weeks plus inbetween the attacks. Similar story with all knights on my server. Population control, my a$$. You couldn't even curb slightly the influx of new padawans.




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Mylako- "I kill only when i'm paid. And since No one's paid me to kill you yet, sleep tight."
Iawalein
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:30 am
#109



Jimhada_AR wrote:
Nothing to do with Jedi, the Jedi wont like being excluded from us getting something......

But on a more serious note, nothing to do with Jedi means either NPC, or another profession.
High level challenging NPC missions would be lovely.
Hunting another profession.. well I dont think thats on the cards for a while, if ever.
*ponders*

Message Edited by Jimhada_AR on 07-13-2005 04:08 PM





I'm not sure why you'd say that the jedi won't like a BH getting something and jedi being excluded. I personally would like to see EVERY other profession get something nice, so long as it isn't just making it easier for ME to be their content. LOL

I hope that it's something really nice for the BHs that worked hard to get there...Like hunting smugglers that have dropped too many loads of spice at the first sign of imperials.



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Blitzhammer
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:01 am
#110

You'll have to excuse my lack in knowledge on the part of what Smugglers actually do in this game... I have seen plenty of them, but never got around to trying out that profession. Do they actually Smuggle stuff around or what? Never seen a Smuggler Terminal yet LOL.


Anyways...ya I'd like to see more than just Jedi on our Terminals. It actually add a bit of a feel closer to the Star Wars we have seen in the movies. I'd even entertain the idea of having other BH's being put on the terminals for failing to many missions. It would make BH missions...lol...like a box of chocolates, ya never know what your gonna get.


I have been successfull on 3 post Pub20 missions so far, only 1 has been a full temp Jedi and he made me really work for it...I think I ended up spending more money doing the job then I got for a reward but it was fun.


Topic related: Sorry, just realized I was way out there.... Honestly, as a MBH I can see where other MBH's support this, after all its almost like a right of passage to be able to hunt Jedi. But, on the other hand there are those whom like the poster don't wish for MBH and want there personalized template...I'd have to say.... I still side with the MBH's whom support the idea. Not saying you non masters haven't earned the right too, far from it. I could suggest a work around like only being able to hunt Padawans and leaving the big boys to MBH's or something like that...but that would be crap. It's hard to be objective looking on it from a MBH point of view. There are people who just dabble in one thing or another and expect the same benifits that those who put all they have into a profession. I wouldn't know who they are, and I don't think SOE has a way of being able to sort them out either, so we get a fix like this where only MBH can hunt Jedi. I can see where you have an issue with it, and I feel for you to some extent. Not completely for the idea, at one time I wasn't a MBH and I still hunted Jedi (not very well, but I did anyway). So, even though I support the idea of it, if they were to reconsider...it wouldn't affect me one way or another.


If any of this didn't make any sence, my appologise...I blame the lack of coffee!!!





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scoodoobydoo
Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:53 pm
#111


agree 100% - moving player jedi missions to the master box is just cruel.


i personally think it was done so frs knights gain from killing bhs


i sawa funny post in here froma bh saying

well i dont want to master bh to hunt jedi

and why should bh hunt jedi for the credits faction ?? what have we to gain


ROFLMFAO ( this bh has turned into a jedi and is confused about his character )



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

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Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
scoodoobydoo
Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:55 pm
#112

This is what jedi have been saying forever


Now, I ask you whats in it for us? If we are forced to be MBH to hunt Jedi that get FRS points for advancement if they kill us, then what do we gain out of the deal? Money? Again risk vs reward arguement will be out in full force



wow thats fing hilarious comeing from a bounty hunter




Ive only read the original posters comments so some of this will be redundant with others comments.

1) I really never jumped on the bandwagon to be a bh/melee temp prior to the CU. They were probably the most effective compared to ranged temps pre-cu but it wasnt my style, and i had a uber DE-10 (dreams of those torso shot ticks).

2) Post CU altered the playing field a great deal, it altered the melee vs ranged battle more than anything.

3) Since they improved the viability of the ranged professions vs jedi, im extremely happy, however, in my view they really made the melee bh weaker than they were before. Therefor, my opinion is simply leave jedi bounties at inv 3 or move 4 so we have diversity in temps.

BIGGER PICTURE from my minds eye and please flame away.

Now for those you you that remember the old FRS you know that if you had your MBH tag up just hanging out, you would get /tells from jedi looking for a "freindly duel" ect, which really meaned they simply wanted to get FRS points if they db you. Happened to me alot, and from a few jedi, i really liked. In the future, I see us playing a similar role in that system, which is some of the reason for the changes on the terminals and names. Now, I ask you whats in it for us? If we are forced to be MBH to hunt Jedi that get FRS points for advancement if they kill us, then what do we gain out of the deal? Money? Again risk vs reward arguement will be out in full force, but it will be us MBH using it. Think about it, a 225 k is chump change, and if you fail, you give the jedi FRS which ultimately will make them harder to kill, so the more poor souls go after this FRS jedi the more powerful he will become (asuming he wins), which to be honest i think is ok. I believe the devs simply want to use MBH in the future as a piece of the puzzle in terms of the FRS leveling, and having a invest 3-4 BH goes against that logic (assuming they have their old mentality on how frs works). But again, i feel like MBH tag is simply a tasty treat that every FRS jedi will like to see coming their way, which means that melee BH will be limited in the future. BUT, if they introduce some ADV skill trees above MBH that are filled with points like the FRS for jedi after the sucessfull DB of a mission jedi, im all for it. In other words we would advance as well in skills that are jedi hunting specific in nature (i.e. would not alter our abilities in any other (non jedi) situation pvp or pve). Then, we jedi and BH both have something to stick around a fight for.


In a word i think this change is part of a bigger picture, plain and simple. Id does limit the variability of the hunter template-wisw, mainly forcing them to be ranged. However, Compared to were we where even a year ago, BH has come a LONG way in my opinion (again from a purely ranged BH perspective).




" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
Saarek
Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:00 pm
#113






Blitzhammer wrote:

You'll have to excuse my lack in knowledge on the part of what Smugglers actually do in this game... Only thing we can do is make spice and Slice your weapons. And now - thanks to publish 19 - we have to spend most of our time online searching for loot drops for the components to slice your weapons. I have seen plenty of them, but never got around to trying out that profession. Do they actually Smuggle stuff around or what? Never seen a Smuggler Terminal yet LOL. ROFL. No, after 2 years - there is no Smuggling for Smugglers yet.


Anyways...ya I'd like to see more than just Jedi on our Terminals. It actually add a bit of a feel closer to the Star Wars we have seen in the movies. (You mean have Vader and a squadron of Dark Troopers hunt down and Perma-Death Jedi with Visibilty? I'm beginning to like you mate.) I'd even entertain the idea of having other BH's being put on the terminals for failing to many missions. It would make BH missions...lol...like a box of chocolates, ya never know what your gonna get.


I have been successfull on 3 post Pub20 missions so far, only 1 has been a full temp Jedi and he made me really work for it...I think I ended up spending more money doing the job then I got for a reward but it was fun.


.. edited cause it was irrelevent to my point..







I know for a fact when i say I speak for more than half of our community when i say to all BHs, "Bring it."


We want you to hunt us for one simple reason : It gives us something to do besides being loot-whores and slice monkeys.


Of course, we only want terminal visibility if we frick up a smuggling mission, but GM hasn't exactly been forthcoming as to when that content will be made live - if at all.



So things don't look spectacular on our front.


But we appreciate the support of fellow low-lifes and scum such as yourselves.





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Sardokhan
Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:18 pm
#114





Wrong Post , sorry

Message Edited by Sardokhan on 07-22-2005 02:31 PM

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