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Thread: Pub 20 Turn off all Wookie World XP Petition
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the other day i spent what must have been 1 1/2 searching for a jedi that was online and not on kashyyyk.
SFXGenesis wrote:
Farenheit wrote:
SFXGenesis wrote:
Considering the XP is far better off Kashyyyk than on, I don't know why any Jedi would really waste their time here. It took me about 12 hours to realize that mission lairs would be far faster.
However, your concerns are valid, and I think droid use either needs restored to the planet, or XP removed. I don't like the fact other Jedi will be able to sit there and AFK what I worked my butt off to get.
Dani
Now that your Jedi is done grinding there eh dani ?
Dont mean to call you out, but, your jedi spend more than a fair amount there.... AND NO BH'S HE DID NOT AFK GRIND... You people think every jedi there only afk grinds, WHICH IS CRAP most all are at key... I've yet to see an afk grinder there.
AGAIN, SHAME ON YOU ALL. Lazy lazy lazy.
You misspeak.
I ground about 12 to 14 hours on Kashyyyk before I realized that mission lairs off planet are FAR faster than that stupid Wookiee spawn.
And you also misspeak about AFKing. I know four Jedi who AFK grinded there, or at least attempted to do so, two are in our own guild. Ask Lorelei about them. Attempted? Why just attempt? did it not work out?
And I would be happy if there were no XP on Kashyyyk, or seekers worked there again, even before I was done with my grind. Like I said, after the first few hours, I realized Tat was faster and went there instead. *shrugs*
Dani
Read my hight lighted part... It says "I've yet to see an afk grinder" Just because a few do it, does not mean the zone should be turned off.... There is afk grinders IN MANY OTHER ZONES jedi AND NON JEDI.
Just because bh's are too lazy to actually work for their mark does not mean xp should be turned off there... Nore does the LOS bug mean every single jedi does it.... There was a picture floating around on the forums of a BOUNTY HUNTER using the LOS bug because he was getting owned by his mark... Should WE BAN BH'S FROM GOING ON THE TRAILS?
And you did plent more than 12 to 14 hours there 
Message Edited by Farenheit on 07-16-2005 09:10 AM
Farenheit wrote:
Disgraceful...............
Just because you dont want to run the trails, NERF NERF NERF....................
You should all be ashamed.
disgraceful, just cause you want to be hunted less cause you probably suck at pvp you grind on kashyyyk............
you should be ashamed.
aekeem wrote:
Farenheit wrote:
Disgraceful...............
Just because you dont want to run the trails, NERF NERF NERF....................
You should all be ashamed.
disgraceful, just cause you want to be hunted less cause you probably suck at pvp you grind on kashyyyk............
you should be ashamed.
sucking at PvP really is not an issue. Being low level is the issue. I love to PvP but cant effectivly win against a BH yet because of my low level. Oh well i will regrind what i lost. but its not because we suck at it (well most of us anyways
), its because we dont do any damage at that partucular level. I would guess that wanting to save face and xp points is more of a priority at this point for lower level paddies. I got killed tonight on Dant. Reground my losses there and went back to the world of the wookies. I see not a problem with it. I never run and never use the LOS to escape a BH. For i know they will get me sooner or later. so i sure as much get it over with. those are my 2 credits. though.
You do know of the other afk grind spots i take it? Whats the point of this? I agree afk grinding is cheap and i can honestly say i have never done this and be proud of that fact. But turning off the xp will hurt the non-jedi as well. What good is that? I take my non-jedi there to grind a good bit. This will solve nothing.
Simple solution is to allow seekers to work on kashyyyk. But then this would hamper the non-afk grinding jedi in doing quests and actually getting more out of the exspansion than xp. I love that planet, i just like the way its set up. And 1v1 now basicaly i guess there wouldnt be any harm in allowing seekers to be used there. I mean either way you do it someones going to get screwed.
I do like the patch because it actually makes you newer BH's work for your bounty. I think many of you hav become lazy lately and expect your mark to drop in your laps. BH was much more ofa pain a year plus ago than it is today. Bounty HUNTER <--------last word really describes the profession.
I say allow seekers to work on kash. Keep system 1v1. Must enter each instance and release a seeker, and fix the seeker droid bug. Thats my opinion anyways. I like it better than trying to nerf an entire planet and har everyone that uses it because a few bad jedi take advantage of everything.
Message Edited by KRONOS1974 on 07-16-2005 04:03 AM
Kevin Kereth Well I have said it many times... but it seems Jedi dont want to accept the truth... The BHs were told by the Devs that the reason Droids will not work on Kashyyk was because they felt Jedi shouldnt be hunted while on a Quest planet. Well this is fine and all, except that it has now become the Jedi grinding capital of the galaxy.
Most of those said Jedi are AFK.
Taking XP off the planet hurts no one. It is a QUEST planet, not a grinding planet.
-robaroo- wrote:
In light of the upcoming Publish 20 i would like to petition for XP to be turned off on Wookie World.
I agree that pub 20 will make things alot more interesting, however it will be impossible for BH to capture any mark hiding on WW if we cant get their name beforehand. As it is now with all the instances etc, finding your named mark is ridiculous.
Jedi are laughing in our faces knowning that pub 20 seems to have created a loop hole for all jedi grinding there.
If allXP was turned off, thenjedi have the benefit of enjoying what the planet offers,whilst forcing them grind onother planets where a BH has a chance at finding them.
Message Edited by -robaroo- on 07-14-2005 02:01 PM
I wouldnt sweat so much about this buddy. When group vis is turned off paddies will be able to get great xp on normal planetswithout any risk of being hunted at all whereas if they grind on kash they have a risk of bhs coming after them.
Therefore you should rather petition to keep xp on kash so you might have a chance of actually finding low level jedi on the terms!
(since you petition to turn off xp on kash im figurin youre hunting lower level jedi and not full temps that are not grinding anymore)
Dani, funny how you want to turn on those of us still grinding. Couldn't have been too hard to grind considering i heard your mission was being held so no BH could hunt you. Please don't act like you really did alot of hard work. I did alot of grinding PRE CU, and 20 professions in the hologrind. Double XP and respec are the reason you were able to finish at the frantic pace you did.
The statement that most jedi afk grind there is nothing but a bunch of BH propaganda. Maybe 5% of the jedi that go there go afk to grind. You know what my group does to those that are afk? We kick them out and let someone in that is ATK. However we still let him auto attack and help us, while getting no xp.
I have only seen 2 AFK jedi out of the hundreds ive seen down on the trails.
I'm all for fair play down there. Why don't you put you constructive rants to something useful, like getting The LOS bugs fixed. I say bug because I will not be dicatated where i can run to and be called an exploiter. If i want to run to the bridge and down to the next level the BH is more than welcome to follow me. However it's very unlikely he will catch me. Yes there will be like 2 seconds im on the bridge where you can attack, but If I run Im not running to the bridge and staying , ill go all the way til I lost the bh. The rest of the paths past the intial bridge do not have LOS bugs so you can attack us there.
As far as what is fair for BH and Jedi on Kash. I agree that seekers should tell you the dungeon and maybe instance number. But not exactly what part of the instance.
I believe that once the BH is within 1500-1000 m of their mark they should have a singal sent to them transmitting the name of the Jedi so that they dont have to waste precious seconds tabbing thru all the jedi to see who is target is.
They should not get the name sent to them they minute they take the mission as this would allow for ganking again.
Ho'mer
Message Edited by Opie76 on 07-16-2005 03:34 PM
Opie76 wrote:
Dani, funny how you want to turn on those of us still grinding. Couldn't have been too hard to grind considering i heard your mission was being held so no BH could hunt you. Please don't act like you really did alot of hard work. I did alot of grinding PRE CU, and 20 professions in the hologrind. Double XP and respec are the reason you were able to finish at the frantic pace you did.
My mission was never held by anyone. I was protected by the automatic seven-day waiting period after a toon obtains Padawan. Whoever told you my mission was held is full of it. My mission was held by absolutely nobody. Additionally, I had no respecs to abuse. I was well outside my CU respec period, and I still have the token respec on my account. I would be more than happy to let you log into my account to prove it, if you'd like. Additionally, even without double XP, I still would have finished in only 12 days instead of six. I ground in 36-hour shifts, with two hours of sleep in between. That's 134 hours of straight grinding. Don't tell me I didn't earn it.
The statement that most jedi afk grind there is nothing but a bunch of BH propaganda. Maybe 5% of the jedi that go there go afk to grind. You know what my group does to those that are afk? We kick them out and let someone in that is ATK. However we still let him auto attack and help us, while getting no xp.
I didn't say most, I said some. Several members of our own guild attempted to do it, and several Rebels attempted to do it there as well. To answer Polaris' question, the only reason they were unable to do so was because Lorelei or myself threw them out of the group for AFK grinding. And yes, I do admit that we usually kick AFK Jedi from groups, as it should be, but that doesn't mean that there aren't others elsewhere who are working shifts with their friends to get everyone to level. I've seen it done. Propoganda it is not.
I have only seen 2 AFK jedi out of the hundreds ive seen down on the trails.
See my above response.
I'm all for fair play down there. Why don't you put you constructive rants to something useful, like getting The LOS bugs fixed. I say bug because I will not be dicatated where i can run to and be called an exploiter. If i want to run to the bridge and down to the next level the BH is more than welcome to follow me. However it's very unlikely he will catch me. Yes there will be like 2 seconds im on the bridge where you can attack, but If I run Im not running to the bridge and staying , ill go all the way til I lost the bh. The rest of the paths past the intial bridge do not have LOS bugs so you can attack us there.
Bounty hunters have an entire skill line that is unusable on a given planet. That is highly unfair to them, considering they had to work (whether through another profession and respec, or the actual investigation tree) to obtain that skill. That's like saying it's okay to turn of the 4xxx tree of Healer on Kashyyyk for Jedi. It is just NOT fair. Especially now that names are disappearing from the terminals, bounty hunters have no means by which to counteract the fact seekers do not work on this planet. And yes, I have EVERY right to speak on this issue. I hunted and killed a few Kashyyyk Jedi myself while I was still a BH...and it was damned hard, but worth it. However, without names given for Kashyyyk Jedi from seekers, I would dare say it would be impossible.
As far as what is fair for BH and Jedi on Kash. I agree that seekers should tell you the dungeon and maybe instance number. But not exactly what part of the instance.
They give an exact waypoint for every other planet. Why not Kashyyyk? Additionally, it would be irrelevant, simply because of the fact that, because they are instanced, /target works throughout the entire instance. Even if you're standing in the Necrosis encounter, any bounty hunter could /target you from the door and, just from the distance, would be able to tell approximately how deep into the caves you are, using their radar and their overhead map.
I believe that once the BH is within 1500-1000 m of their mark they should have a singal sent to them transmitting the name of the Jedi so that they dont have to waste precious seconds tabbing thru all the jedi to see who is target is.
This is being fixed on TC. Bounty hunters will now get the name of the Jedi once they arrive on the planet that Jedi is on and send out a seeker droid to find them.
They should not get the name sent to them they minute they take the mission as this would allow for ganking again.
Agreed.
Ho'mer
Message Edited by Opie76 on 07-16-2005 03:34 PM
My responses are noted in bold, underlined italics above.
Dani