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Thread: -=BOSS MARKS ARE IMPOSSIBLE=- *PLEASE SEE VIDEO INSIDE*

Iawo
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:21 pm
#92






sasebo wrote:


Was at work today and was reading all this.got a little worried seems i am a MBH/MCH/CM4000.Thought all my I will never be able to kill one of the boss marks now.Well took my first mission and it was a boss cl 82 Ham 34k.Got my 3 cats out and my droid and went to town.Took him out in 10-15 min.So my words to u is this.Learn to use ur skills or go be some other profes.I like the AI it makes it fun and more work and better loot.Got 4 items off this boss mark and it was well worth the fight.Flame me if u want but oh well get a new job if u cant handle the heat in this one



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Keep running missions, you'll get a god-mark eventually. I took down 3-4 easy as pie marks before I ran into my uber-boss. Good luck doing it with CH pets... lol.



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DTQ
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:22 pm
#93


Ive had 3 lvl 81 double golds, completed with not too much more difficulty than normal, I think this is because of my template, Melee, Im not running around, I sit toe to toe with the boss mark and slug it out. I have my droid out to keep on top of regen. I keep them KD and armour broke, I keep my CoB up - which I believe is 2x as powerfull as duelist, sometimes I stack duelist and CoB. They can root all they like it makes no oddsas we are both standing still maybe the lvl 82's are more difficult. But at the moment lvl 81 double golds are a push over for TKM \ MBH, If you wanted to make them tougher make them root then run 10m then start attacking, now that would be scary for melee players. but otherwise rooting from 3m when they are stood still, is just plain funny. Heck the AI on these guys puts them in a nice permaroot for melee players anyway. If normal ranged players just stood there for melee guys PVP would be nice and easy.


Will report back when Ive found a lvl 82 double gold.


Watching the video I'd definetely say its my template making these guys easy, My knuckles work at a speed of 1.2 so I get lots of hits in fast - that keeps on top of the regen nicely, the droid makes all the difference, I stand still so Im not losing accuracy and missing a lot I hit near enough every shot, I noticed you are missing a fair bit there. My Cob and duelist mean they miss a lot, the damage numbers you are seeing are not so far off what I was getting, but I was putting a lot more hits on them than they were able to score on me.


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sabbatu
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:28 pm
#94






Iawo wrote:





sasebo wrote:


Was at work today and was reading all this.got a little worried seems i am a MBH/MCH/CM4000.Thought all my I will never be able to kill one of the boss marks now.Well took my first mission and it was a boss cl 82 Ham 34k.Got my 3 cats out and my droid and went to town.Took him out in 10-15 min.So my words to u is this.Learn to use ur skills or go be some other profes.I like the AI it makes it fun and more work and better loot.Got 4 items off this boss mark and it was well worth the fight.Flame me if u want but oh well get a new job if u cant handle the heat in this one



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Keep running missions, you'll get a god-mark eventually. I took down 3-4 easy as pie marks before I ran into my uber-boss. Good luck doing it with CH pets... lol.





yea, i think sasebo got a gimped boss mark, $hit, my first mark was an elite gold boss mark, and the guy didnt even deal 1 point of damage...so, yea, i killed one of these marks also, but the next 5 or so elite boss's were insane, and will put any pet to rest in a few hits.Not to mention regening 3k+ damage in a matter of seconds



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robpro
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:31 pm
#95






emovamalla wrote:





Maccajnr wrote:


While npc ai might need some tweaking, watching the video and checking your stats, there's a lot to improve:


- Food. How could you ingage a high level mark with only two food in your stomach?? Never heard about thundercloud, crispic, pikatta-pie, Vayerbock,... and I miss a few. Not to mention smuggler spice.


For the 50th time, I admitted that I needed more food. It still does not matter in my case. All the food in the world would not help me. Pre-24, I could waste these guy w/o any food and w/o any armor with one hand tied behind my back.


- Sorry to say that, but your armor suxx. Get yourself a higher energy armor 7000+ or even 8000.


Yes, you have you opinion. In my opinion, I have some good armor.


I have 7500 against ranged energy (with PSG) and 7500 against Kinetic.

7500 Rated armor is 54.75% dmg reduction. 10000 rated armor is 60% dmg reduction. My armor doesn't suck nearly as much as your research.


- I never was a BH, but I guess you could receive doc buffs before going to your mark.


Never a BH, eh? You don't see me trolling the Chef forum telling you that you need to learn how to reduce stomach fill on Mando Wine, do you? Stay outaway fromposting in forums you have no business in.


Again...Pre-24, I could waste these guy w/o any food and w/o any armor with one hand tied behind my back. I'm up for a challenge but this is above and beyond anything soloable


Thats fun when you know you can kill a lvl 82 boss w/o armor or food with one hand tied behind your back. makes you feel like you deserve the good loot we hava a CHANCE(as in not guaranteed)of getting


- duelist stance is a life safer, use it much much more often.


Again, hard to use when you are healing and on the move all the time.It's a nice skill, impossible to use in this situation trying to avoid melee. Imagine trying to run from a BH and having to stop for Aura to zipbar up every time... oh god... that'll prolly be the next Jedi nerf.


Knockdown and snare works for getting out of melee range and when they are imune to snares burst run.











We have many many option for killing but everyone is so use to no risk and easy that they are lost when they actually have to try.

Treat all bounty missions the same. Doc buffs, foods, health crystal, good armor, good weapon of each dmg type(some npc's are more vunerable to different dmg types) use states they do help if you can get them to stick(they dont stick with energy try kinetic).

You will say the NPC bounties dont pay enough to warrent using all the costly items and buffs. I made 10 million in a week just selling the loot i got from doing 5 npc bounty missions a day. So dont say its not profitable.



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TheHunterik
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:34 pm
#96

Allright, the guy i was fighting was hitting me for 400-550 damage easily altough i have 6400/6200 armor, he was using kinetic pistol aparently, without help of my friend doc i would be dead in no time. I tried two times myself and was pushed to defensive immediately even with health buff crystal active. Vast percentage of my states didnt stick to him, and i seemed to miss whenever i tried to knock him down - now tell me, how high your accuracy is ? well mine is 255... and my dps is 1028-1058 with speed pups (depends on those few % of the pup im curently using) and with damage pup my gun is 583-1214 damage with 730 dps... i was hitting it for 700-800 damage
and it took me like 10 minutes with outside healer to kill it... Again, im MBH/MCARB/CM 4000 and i was using combat foods, bliel for additional healing and i found only healing myself... for all who say we are noobs here... GOOD LUCK GETTING GOD MARK YOURSELF.
HeadRoll
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:47 pm
#97






robpro wrote:


Finally bounty hunter NPC markshave a chance of being stronger than us. YAY


I support this 120% We should not win every time.





You know although I feel for the original poster. And am sure I will bepissed as well when i run into one of these...in the end I agree with the changes, there has to be some losses as well when doing npc marks. Prior to this patch I never worried about death to any mark, it was just a matter ofhow many I would have to roll over before I get lucky with a good tape drop.


Message Edited by HeadRoll on 10-20-2005 02:48 AM

TheHunterik
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:51 pm
#98







HeadRoll wrote:





robpro wrote:


Finally bounty hunter NPC markshave a chance of being stronger than us. YAY


I support this 120% We should not win every time.





You know although I feel for the original poster. And am sure I will be disappointed as well when i run into one of these...in the end I agree with the changes, there has to be some losses as well when doing npc marks. Prior to this patch I never worried about death to any mark, it was just a matter ofhow many I would have to roll over before I get lucky with a good tape drop.







If this is meant to be this way, im fine with GOD marks, as you could read i met him today , killed with outside healers. In fact the lack of challenge brought only boredom in the BH missions last few weeks and our bank account were going too fat . Slowly i realize that this will bring only challenge which i was seeking all the time and didnt get from the game. Yay, again there are things that can beat me out there lol..

Message Edited by TheHunterik on 10-20-2005 12:53 AM

Atioto
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:59 pm
#99

I am: MBM/MCM/Pistols 0004. I just got my first 35k HAM Boss mark since the patch came through. The fight was very much longer than one ever would have went before publish 24, but I did come out with the victory. If you allow them to close on you and armorbreak, though, it seems to me the best thing to do is stay as far away as possible until it wears off first, and worry about dealing damage second. Since I don't have enough ADKs for it, I am very reluctant to use my AB sliced RIS on these guys, just using standard Marauder.


That said, these are definately a great deal more difficult than they ever were before, and I can see being sent to the cloner by one one of these days. I'm not sure what the loot tables look like, if they're any different at all, but I will say that I got 5 reinforced casings for the effort this time.


MolemanMole
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:27 pm
#100






JarekTalram wrote:

My technic is fine. I need to completely change my template and it probably still wouldn't help. I don't think you can kill these things without some medic if not doctor or cm.






I wouldnt do anything in this game without healing or at least some little bit of medic. I just killed a double goldboss mark on my lunch break. His ham was 34600K and he used a pistol. knocked me down like 5 times, snared me the whole time, rooted me about 4 times. I used a FWG5 speed pupped, droped Pyro, and fire dotted him. I healed like 25 times. 15 minutes flat, still got to eat my burger. I finding out as a pistoleer its good to dodge allot!




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emovamalla
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:37 pm
#101






mindspat wrote:





Neopole2 wrote:

that is really weird cause i have a boss mark a little while ago, and it was the exact same NPC to the T same close every thing...



and i had the same problems, mine was lvl 75 elite boss, i could not kill him ,i ended up aborting the mission,


i was fully buffed, and using all the food i can, i was using a duelist macro but it just seemed to be in the way, my armor is BH assualt

5k+ kinetic 4k+ energy 5500 base, my gun is fwg5 adk 422 base dps, 1.21 speed puped, 15pistol accuracy, 60 bonus, 69 sac, i got him down to 1/3 of his health but he was just regening to fast. and it seemed that some of my shots didnt even register, no hit no miss, nothing it just didnt show up.



any ways i hope they fix this.






I felt I had to comment on this.


This issue has been ingame for about 6-10 weeks now. It's been listed althoug due to the current developement studios ineptness they have further expanded upon this bug. There's been many instances where hit's would register, via animation, although no dmg calculations would take place. This has been VERY common for me and my main character, Jedi.


Some attacks appear worse then others although I would asssume it's a coincidence based upon my standard procedure of engagement.


On an additional note, there's been many issue with CM DoTs lately. After the latest fix to these DoTs there had been codding implemented which inadvertantly caused the "no register" bug to be applied to DoTs and now HEALS! At times I can heal myself and watch the HAM adjust according to the heal and associated costs while even seening the sys spam....although there's no message in the Combat log!! When this happens there's usually an instance where my health will drop from 4500+ to zero in about two seconds as if the server adjusts the HAM to reflect what it should be as if the heals were not applied.


This game is more wrecked then you could imagine.






Ya know...


I never noticed this...


Look atmy video again (yes again!)


Not a single shot was registered on the NPC fly-by text. You'll see miss (often) and you'll see +Critical+ BUT!!!!! you never see any damage roll over his head. Interesting indeed...



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gamin
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:16 pm
#102

I havn't read thru the entire posts..several pages now.. but I just thought I would share a couple of the things that I have that seem to help (maybe I'm restateing things and I appologize if I am)



  • I use assualt armor with max kin protection

  • I compensate for this by having a PSG with max energy protection (I keep a crate of these handy as they take alot of dmg) Will ADK an Imp one eventualy)

  • I've found that a well made Lightning Cannon is AWSOME, it may not quite have the DPS as a fast pistol or carbine, but does awsome dmg and a decent range which is really handy against those pesky carbine NPC's that knock you down with perfect timeing lol

  • A mix of CM and Medic and USE WELL CRAFTED STIMS the heals are sooo much better and sometimes you need to spam 2 or 3 different heals if they manage to land 2 or 3 good hits on you simultainiously

  • With all the healing that is needed at times some food/drink with really good Mind regen is a must, the Mind regens alot slower then action

  • Patience, some fights I've had easily go on for more then 10-20minutes, just keep chipping away at them, keep your distance...change weapons (have different dmg types of weapons and see which ones land more dmg on the target)

Again I'm sorry if these have been overstated, but maybe these tips will help a few people reading thru the posts







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Aserhe
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:32 pm
#103



chopperhomer wrote:

Working as intended!

Dev's please dont change one damn thing !!!




Well then if it's working as intended, can the people who can't seem to budge these guys please get to choose lower level missions?



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Tzosskinati
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:31 pm
#104

For all those bragging about beating it...post a video...curious to see it



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