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Thread: Yet Another Template Question

Jaardan
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:00 pm
#92

Since I've been away for quite some time and I'm re-learning, I'd like a little input on a template I have been thinking about. I wanted one with Master Powers, therefore I realize I'm going to have to sacrifice some defense for some offense. I also want to be able to fall back on my saber and will need to be able to craft a decent one, so here goes, all suggestions/comments are welcome.


Master Powers

LS X4X4

Heal 4XXX

Enhancer 44X4

Defender XX1X


That variant gives 6850 total force power which would be needed with Master Powers. A variant would be to drop Defender and pick up two extra boxes in healing, allowing me to heal my own wounds. I apologize if this one has been posted before, I just haven't played in about a year so I haven't seen it.



"How dare you sleep under the very blanket of protection I provide, and then question the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said 'thank you', and went on your way."
Luscio
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:05 pm
#93






Jaardan wrote:

Since I've been away for quite some time and I'm re-learning, I'd like a little input on a template I have been thinking about. I wanted one with Master Powers, therefore I realize I'm going to have to sacrifice some defense for some offense. I also want to be able to fall back on my saber and will need to be able to craft a decent one, so here goes, all suggestions/comments are welcome.


Master Powers

LS X4X4

Heal 4XXX

Enhancer 44X4

Defender XX1X


That variant gives 6850 total force power which would be needed with Master Powers. A variant would be to drop Defender and pick up two extra boxes in healing, allowing me to heal my own wounds. I apologize if this one has been posted before, I just haven't played in about a year so I haven't seen it.





It is a viable template if you play it correctly. My advice would be to drop defender and some of the synergy line in enhancer and go MLS. MLS is definitely worth it. With all the debuffs and defense crystals/foods/etc, you need to offset less defense with more offense. just my 2 cents.
Luscio
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:07 pm
#94

Don't listen to anyone who isnt MLS claim they dont see a difference. They may not see a big difference now, but wait until the speed bug is fixed. Currently you swing at a speed equivalent to the "speed" and not the "mod-speed" listed on your LS. When it is fixed the difference will be astounding and non-MLS will be crushed.
Jaardan
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:08 pm
#95

The reason I was wanting the last line in Enhancer was for Force Meditate. Would it not be needed since Powers is so force-intensive?



"How dare you sleep under the very blanket of protection I provide, and then question the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said 'thank you', and went on your way."
Luscio
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:12 pm
#96







Jaardan wrote:
The reason I was wanting the last line in Enhancer was for Force Meditate. Would it not be needed since Powers is so force-intensive?





Hrm.. I can't make the decision for you. However, think about this. During a fight you do are not capable of force meditating, and channeling is kept to a minimal. So neither of those skills are offensive or defensive and can be offset by using a holocron. Drain does come in handy and is something to think about, but spamming it is pathetic and should never be down. I am a master enhancer and rarely bother force meditating, I just channel. Meditate will be a big disappointment if you expect to see your force bar regen faster. The statistics say it does, but hell, I cant notice a difference. What is the FC on your saber? That could be a deciding factor.
Luscio
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:14 pm
#97






Jaardan wrote:
The reason I was wanting the last line in Enhancer was for Force Meditate. Would it not be needed since Powers is so force-intensive?





Since you can cloak, and FR2 will not help in duels and rarely in pvp, drop that skill.
Jaardan
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:22 pm
#98

Is powers even really worth it for DPS? Some say choke works good, some say it's not worth it..Without Powers, is there a viable high-DPS option?



"How dare you sleep under the very blanket of protection I provide, and then question the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said 'thank you', and went on your way."
Electrichazard
Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:19 pm
#99

If you wanted to keep something similar you could go with Master Powers/Heal 4xxx/Enh 3402/Saber 0404


This is one of the more common Powers temps.





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Jaardan
Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:42 pm
#100

Yeah when I used the calculator, I forgot to add in the FS stuff. Oh well..Anyway, how would a template involving Master Powers do in pvp/pve situations? I'm a little concerned at the lack of defenses, since I'd be hunting for my own crystals most of the time. Although I think Powers is cool because of how it looks and the fact that not a lot of people use it, I still want a template with high dps (high enough to kill effectively)and survivability for the pve aspect.



"How dare you sleep under the very blanket of protection I provide, and then question the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said 'thank you', and went on your way."
Electrichazard
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:13 am
#101


Alot of people will say that powers is broken and doesn't do enough damage, zip bars etc. You just have to know how to work around it. Mixing LS 0404 with powers helps out alot though. Block is a big bonus to def (not as big as it used to be...but still). Plus you get saber throw (very nice damage), armor break and power attack (another zip bar). The one I previously mentioned is a very viable template for PvP and PvE. The biggest problem is your force pool. Between powers and force armor you burn though alot of force. This can be managed but you really have to learn how to do. Of course, the only way to do that is practice. Just know which attacks you can use on the move and which attacks you have to root your target first.





Mallarinot just good..... Oslif Sosi....good enoughKerrichybe

Spec-Ops Arcas Legion

Anthias SosiYes, we are still here. Malirk Sosi



Luscio
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:40 pm
#102






Jaardan wrote:

Is powers even really worth it for DPS? Some say choke works good, some say it's not worth it..Without Powers, is there a viable high-DPS option?






highDPS = go MLS.


DPS means nothing atm. Once they fix modified speed then it will mean everything. A MLS will almost always beat a non-MLS.


The best master powers jedi on Corbantis is a guy named "Mojawk". send a tell to him about template advice, as long as you dont catch him at a bad time he is always helpful. I believe his template is MLS, MPwrs, 4000healer & 1000defender. I use him to tank the hard creatures on Mustafar. Choke is unbelievably helpful in pvp as well as pve. The weakness against a MPowers jedi isnt a master defender jedi, it is a master enhancer.Pwrs utterly destroys master defenders, but the whole powers tree is worthless against force feedback. Sure you can use force breach, but a decent enhancer will just throw it back up. The accuracy on breach is horrible from what I hear. ATM, force feedback it sending back 100% of the attack back at the attacker.


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