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Thread: Why do jedi cry when you kill them?

Lil_T
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:18 am
#66






Nathanielstarr wrote:





whitethunder wrote:
they cry because they think that grinding for months on end instead of enjoying the gamemakes them special






Yes I hate that and I think a player should be judged on what they've done in the game not how long they dida mindless task.


I spent my time playing the game and I'm a good bounty hunter. I know tons of Jedi that have finished Jedi but they haven't even mastered a pilot profession and they bought JTL the day it came out.






Yay this is me! Except for the fact I have done just about everything else in the game and have every non profession badge. So not having mastered pilot because I'm not thatgood atit makes me worse than you? Well to you. I just got 4444 in pilot at the weekend! Now I'm just trying to find someone to help with my quest.




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"I don't think so."

zagg
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:20 am
#67

Well seeing as we jedi let a lot of you guys join the AOE groups we create,to help yougrind your toon to master BH,You think you'd have a little more respect for us ?


Who do you think helped you to get to MBH in the first place ?


Theres not one BH on any of the servers that can honestly say at some point during his grind to MBH MCM, that a jedi wasnt in any of the groups he joined ??


I don't mind being hunted, i do enjoy the fight too !. Its just the loss of jedi xp that pissed me off so much, I'm now at the stage of paying the BH after the fight not to DB me !!!!




whitethunder
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:25 am
#68






zagg wrote:

Well seeing as we jedi let a lot of you guys join the AOE groups we create,to help yougrind your toon to master BH,You think you'd have a little more respect for us ?


Who do you think helped you to get to MBH in the first place ?


Theres not one BH on any of the servers that can honestly say at some point during his grind to MBH MCM, that a jedi wasnt in any of the groups he joined ??


I don't mind being hunted, i do enjoy the fight too !. Its just the loss of jedi xp that pissed me off so much, I'm now at the stage of paying the BH after the fight not to DB me !!!!









lol of course a jedi was part of the group all they do is grind !!




zagg
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:40 am
#69

yeah us getting 1.5k max per kill you getting 6 or 7k
DoctorFett
Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:57 am
#70






HanzoShinobi wrote:





DoctorFett wrote:






HanzoShinobi wrote:





DoctorFett wrote:





Deelain wrote:




Re: Why do jedi cry when you kill them?





because unlike bh's we actually lose something from the fight and have to spend the next night of our gametime regrinding what we lost where as u just clone and go after another one.









Hey You jedi know when u took the path that this would happen, when u come on to these forums and complain your pretty much just blowing hot air that just fogs up my glasses. Please if u want complain so much become a master armorsmith. weaponsmith, droid engineer, artisan, chef, or tailor. When u become those profs then I will start to agree with what u say








lol Im not sure if your registered date displays your actual game playing time, but most of us older jedi did have to become master armorsmiths, weaponsmiths, droid engineers, artisans, chefs, and tailors during the profession grind days. Most mastered 25+ profs, so are you going to man up and agree with what we say?





Whoop-De-freakin-do, you only grinded those profs because u needed to back in the holo-grinding days. You probaly mastered those profs, and then dumped them, then moved on to the next one that same day. You didnt do because u wanted to, u did because u had to. So dont come at my neck saying I dont know what im talking about. You probaly just ASSUMED I was a new BH, but I forgive you.

Message Edited by DoctorFett on 10-16-2005 08:17 PM







hmmm looks are your registered date, looks at your obsessive whining, your no skill template, and looks at your annoying large red font, I dont assume anything you are noob bh.





Whos whinning, Im just stating the obvious, I if wanted to whine I go in game and spam all day long. Oh and BTW in my entire one year of game time I have not met a jedi as arrogant as you. The fact that you actully play this game is insulting. What makes you think your better than anybody else huh, that you killed more banthas, dewbacks, bols, and pikets then anyone else? I said it before and Ill say it one last time. YOUR CHARCTER IS NO DIFFRENT FROM A NEW PLAYERS CHARACTER, IT CAN JUST AS EASILY BEDELETED!!!!!!!!


Oh and by the way thats the date I started going on fourms, because I couldnt play the game.

Message Edited by DoctorFett on 10-18-2005 11:58 AM



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
DoctorFett
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:13 am
#71






Fugitron wrote:





DoctorFett wrote:



Well im proud to say that, It wont happen to me because it took me long enough to get were im at now, to become a jedi will be throwing all that time away. So I can see were ur comming from but then again its not MY fault that YOU wanted to become a jedi.






Jedi have alot to complain about even without BH's to consider. For example,there are a plethera of issues that need to be addressed(snare nerf, the AI nerf, lack of good pearls, no FRS, etc.), but will never prolly receive even a response from a dev. Jedi has also been the most "changed" profession in the game. Every single time the devs change an aspect of jedi that means they must regrind. So your argument about expectations is moot my friend. Think about this:


You put the work in to grind up to Master BH just to get the ability to hunt jedi, but then later the devs put in a requirement that for each jedi mission it will cost 2500 investigation xp to pull a player jedi mission. That might change things for you enough to not want to do BH anymore right? Well NOW you are finally getting a glimpse of that jedi are having to face with each patch since the CU hit.


When I choose to go jedi it was at a time where the power they had was well worth the risk of being hunted and the isolated grind. Now, it is sad that a new BH can almost go head to head to me if they have master CM just becuase of their healing abilities (yes this is being addressed in this next patch). Yet, I hope you see the point I am making.


Please realize this is not me crying, this is me stating FACTS and trying to relate to the BH community that when we die to a BH, especially for a grinding paddy, it does have an effect on morale. Its even moreso difficult for the old timer jedi who got to experience the power and now to find that all the work they went through was wasted on the now watered down version of jedi we have. Thanks for listening.






Oh I totally agree with you, trust me I feel the same way when I lose to a targeted jed, some will rub it in your face. But the reason the DEVS have changed it so much is one thing, three simple words. Balance of Power. If they were to make jedi back the way they were before it would mean that more people would be the best. This game and all MMORPGs were made solely for the purpose so people could get online, hang out with friends, andjust screw around pretty much, while having a good time. Because jedi is in the game, yes that is the best prof to have, but it dosent make you the best player. Thats why I play this game, because nobody can possibly be the best player in the game. And if you consider yourself the best, that is because others have told you that u are the best they have met. There are so many reasons that they have really nerfed jedi but that is the main one. I have been a Bounty Hunter on Kauri for 7 months, I grinded investigation solely on hunting Jedi. And let me tell you this, Not one jedi was an easy fight. That is because both jedi and bh, and I know im going to get flamed for this one, are the same. If you ask why, the reason is simple, because the jedis abbilites were solely created to defend themselves. Same goes for the Bounty Hunter. Why because the Bh hunts the Jedi and then the Jedi fights back(if he/she dosent run). In the long run though the power of balence has always been shifted but then it comes back into balence when on prof gets "nerfed", yes it seems hard but thats the only way to keep things running. If some of the demands I here from both BH and Jedi were met, this game would fail. That is just all my opinion, flame me if you must to make yourself feel better, because I dont care anymore!



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
DoctorFett
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:15 am
#72






Jozhur wrote:





zagg wrote:


Theres not one BH on any of the servers that can honestly say at some point during his grind to MBH MCM, that a jedi wasnt in any of the groups he joined ??









Yep. I can in all honesty*. Besides, most grinding Jedi I run into are so uppity, they either don't let non-Jedi in, or when I've invited them into a group, they decline when they see no other Jedi in the group...


*I did join a group with a Jedi in it for a few minutes until he left, but that's because I'm re-grinding a bit of cm.





Thats BS if your smart, youll get into a spin group to grind quick xp. At least 3 jedi should be in a spin group, and one in a regular group.



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
Jozhur
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:29 am
#73

I did the BH grind before spinning was the norm...and as far as the mcm spin grind, there's so many other cm/doc's...if three of you just spam the bactasprays, you'll be fine...


And notice how I said that I've *tried* to group with Jedi...it's just their elitist uppity attitudes that make me want to hunt them more....I don't care how much time you post-cu Jedi have spent killing banthas and bols...just means that you have an awful lot of time on your hands.


I don't recall Yoda ever telling Luke, "go kill 8 billion rontos and a Jedi you will become"...or "buy your Jedi on ebay and full template power you will have"...personally I think being able to "grind" Jedi (especially afk) is a joke...


I just think the attitude of entitlement and "uberl33tness" that an awful lot of Jedi have is ridiculous...so when I kill one and get hate tells, it just makes me want to hunt more and more...


BUT that's not to say I haven't met some awesome Jedi (all Imperial...go fig) throughout my hunts who have given me tips/help/practice duels and understand this is just supposed to be a fun game...and have enough RL self-esteem that they don't need to be pr!cks to boost their sad little egos...


So in other words, the only cool Jedi I've met are the ones I've hunted...every other one I've talked to...ugh. Pathetic.



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DoctorFett
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:36 am
#74


its same thing with me, the only nice people I have met so far are people i have actully been in hunting groups with. Im not saying that those are the only nice people. But thats how u prety much make friends in this game.



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
Nathanielstarr
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:45 am
#75






Jozhur wrote:

I did the BH grind before spinning was the norm...and as far as the mcm spin grind, there's so many other cm/doc's...if three of you just spam the bactasprays, you'll be fine...


And notice how I said that I've *tried* to group with Jedi...it's just their elitist uppity attitudes that make me want to hunt them more....I don't care how much time you post-cu Jedi have spent killing banthas and bols...just means that you have an awful lot of time on your hands.


I don't recall Yoda ever telling Luke, "go kill 8 billion rontos and a Jedi you will become"...or "buy your Jedi on ebay and full template power you will have"...personally I think being able to "grind" Jedi (especially afk) is a joke...


I just think the attitude of entitlement and "uberl33tness" that an awful lot of Jedi have is ridiculous...so when I kill one and get hate tells, it just makes me want to hunt more and more...


BUT that's not to say I haven't met some awesome Jedi (all Imperial...go fig) throughout my hunts who have given me tips/help/practice duels and understand this is just supposed to be a fun game...and have enough RL self-esteem that they don't need to be pr!cks to boost their sad little egos...


So in other words, the only cool Jedi I've met are the ones I've hunted...every other one I've talked to...ugh. Pathetic.





So many of us feel that way. I grinded this weekend to change from 3 boxes of FS melee defense to 3 boxes of ranged accuracy and it was so easy and quick it was a joke. Grinding is nothing even if you do 10 times more than that its times more of nothing. Killing a pre cu jedi is an accomplishment becoming a jedi is not.
DoctorFett
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:52 am
#76

I suggest spin grinding if you need the xp fast like for the FS grind, but just a normal hunt is just as fun, personally I like it more.



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
zagg
Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:31 am
#77


A littleRespect would go a long way !!


I dont mind being hunted, i think its fun and exciting, but heres an example of what i'm trying to say...................


Two people start to grind


1 has just got to jedi padawan,1 has still some to grind to get M BH


They get into a regular group, make friends, and grind for a few weeks and keep bumping into one another and joining the same groups.


The BH gets to master, The jedi padawan still has lots to gring cos of the JEDI 1.5 xp per kill compared to the 6 or 7k BH xp


The BH gets a mission, Gets to his mark and finds out its the guy hes been grouping with.


What does he do ? I 'll tell you, Kills the jedi real easy,cos the jedi has still lots to grind and he's an easy to kill, then Death blows him


How does this make the JEDI feel, with lost xp, after being in a group with this guy, Playing the game together ?


I don't need to tell you cos you already know the answer,


So theres 2 options pay the BH


Or RUN RUN RUN!!!




Message Edited by zagg on 10-19-2005 03:35 PM

Jozhur
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:46 am
#78

Yeah...but you're talking about the most dishonorable profession in the game. As low as some of our blows are, at least we can always truthfully say, "hey I'm just roleplaying"...


But there are some of us who wouldn't kill an aquaintance like that...but since I've only been grouped with one Jedi (after I already made MBH) for about 10 minutes, I'll never be in this situation...because...well, read my last post about uppity Jedi not wanting to group with non-Jedi. Which is fine with me. Saves me the trouble of ever having to kill a grind buddy.



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Former Jedi Hunter. Future...?
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